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  • 28 April 2006

    GIRM 299 has been mistranslated

    CATEGORY: SESSIUNCULUM — Fr. John Zuhlsdorf @ 12:42 pm

    I had some mail and comments about my entry on the Latin of GIRM 299 and the English translation.

    In one case I was asked by Paul B: "Just to play the devil’s advocate, ... (c)ouldn’t the ‘quod’ be taken, not as a neuter relative pronoun, ‘which’..., but as the conjunction ‘because’....  This would lend weight to the bishop’ BLS translation and give it more force for their ‘facing the people’ agenda."  

    While I was pretty sure I had rendered it correctly (namely, that the quod referred to the whole thing that went before) I consulted Fr. Reginald Foster, OCD (Latin secretary to His Holiness in the Secretariat of State) about 299.  As I supposed, the quod refers to what goes before.  It is not "because".  Look at the Latin again.

    The Latin:
    Altare maius exstruatur a pariete seiunctum, ut facile circumiri et in eo celebratio versus populum peragi possit, quod expedit ubicumque possibile sit.

    The BLS translation (which is now the GIRM translation):
    The altar should be built apart from the wall, in such a way that it is possible to walk around it easily and that Mass can be celebrated at it facing the people, which is desirable wherever possible. (Emphases added)

    The problem with the GIRM translation is that it gives the impression that it is celebration versus populum which is desirable, rather than the separation of the altar from the wall.

    My version:
    The main altar should be built separated from the wall, which is useful wherever it is possible, so that it can be easily walked around and a celebration toward the people can be carried out.  (Emphases added)

    The Latin does not say that celebrations versus populum are desirable.  It says that separation of the altar from the wall is desirable (or useful or fitting) wherever possible.  The ut clause explains how far the altar should be from the wall by way of explaining the reason for a separation from the wall.  It should be far enough from the wall so that someone can walk around the altar so that if there should be celebration for Mass versus populum the priest will have room. 

    In otherwords, since "separated" could technically be only a single centimeter, the paragraph makes the distance a little more specific: far enough so that Mass can be celebrated versus populum.  Furthermore, this separation from the wall is not obligatory.  It is fitting or useful or desirable wherever it is possible.  It is not obligatory.   (Neither is celebration of Mass versus populum, obviously.)

    There are any number of reasons why it might not be possible to separate an altar from the wall.  For example, it might be that the altar is of historic importance.  Maybe the architecture of the church is such that to change the altar would ruin the focus.  It might be that there would not be adequate room in the sanctuary if the mensa (or table) of the altar was moved forward.  Maybe in that place the decision was made to have celebrations of Mass ad orientem versus and not versus populum.  All of these would be entirely adequate reasons.  You can probably think of more reasons yourself.  Furthermore, there is no obligation to change an existing altar.  This would apply more to new construction.

    The official translation gives the impression that what 299 is asking for is celebration versus populum rather than separation of the altar "wherever it is possible".  Read the GIRM translation again: The altar should be built apart from the wall, in such a way that it is possible to walk around it easily and that Mass can be celebrated at it facing the people, which is desirable wherever possible. (Emphases added)

    Does the GIRM translation of 299 it not give you that impression as well?

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    Some software adjustments

    CATEGORY: SESSIUNCULUM — Fr. John Zuhlsdorf @ 11:22 am

    No spamI had to make a few software adjustments to the blog.  Lately a huge amount of spam is being submitted as comments to entries.  As a result I am tweaking some of the settings here to see if I can cut some of it off at the pass. 

    However, it might have happened that some legitmate comments were eliminated when I was clearing out the dead wood to the burn pile (where the spammers themselves will also one day be consigned, I am sure).   Of course there were also comments I deleted simply because they were nasty.  Life is too short for both spam and nastygrams.

    In any event, I turned on the option which asks people to be logged in in order to post comments.   I sure would prefer to have a bit more freedom, but the unsolicited garbage has become intolerable.  Someday I may know more about plugins or code tweaks which could help filter the gook out of the system, but until then, let’s try it this way.

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