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    24 October 2007

    A question for readers about old Breviary rubrics

    CATEGORY: SESSIUNCULUM — Fr. John Zuhlsdorf @ 5:36 pm

    Folks, I got this question by e-mail (one of the nearly 400 today alone).  I don’t have the energy to respond.

    Help this guy out (if you know how).

    I am an admirer and loyal reader of your blog. You provide a valuable service. I am very sorry to bother you with a trivial question, and I understand if you do not have time to answer it. But you seem like the right person to ask, so I figured it was worth a shot.

    I am teaching myself to pray the 1961 Roman Breviary, and have run into a small issue I cannot solve:

    Tomorrow is a feria and the commemoration of SS. Chrysanthus and Daria. My question is about Lauds. The Proprium Sanctorum gives a Benedictus antiphon, a verse and a response, and then the Collect.

    From the Rubrics it seems that I should take everything from the Psalter and the Ordinary, but that I should substitute the proper antiphon/verse/response/Collect that are given for the Commemoration, instead of using those in the Psalter.

    However, Haussmann’s Learning the New Breviary seems to suggest that I do take the Benedictus antiphon/verse/response from the Psalter, the Collect from the preceding Sunday, and then after this say the proper antiphon/verse/response/Collect, and then conclude the Hour. 

    In other words, on commemorations on ferias with nothing else going on, do the propers replace the relevant parts in the Psalter, or are they said in the normal form of commemorations after the main collect (i.e. from the preceding Sunday)?

    Which, if any of these, is correct?


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    Chicago Workshop for Celebrants went “spectacularly well”

    CATEGORY: SESSIUNCULUM — Fr. John Zuhlsdorf @ 9:54 am

    Good news over at Musica Sacra.

    Success at the Celebrant Workshop
    By CMAA on October 23, 2007 at 1:58 pm

    The celebrant workshop (Missa in Cantu) went spectacularly well. A total of forty priests and seminarians attended. They participated in daily sung liturgy in all forms. St. John Cantius hosted the CMAA and were wonderfully helpful. Many notes of appreciation have come our way, but this one was particularly striking:

    “Thank you so much for the workshop in Chicago. It was eye-opening and life changing. It is hard to explain but everything seems different now. From not singing really anything, to this past Sunday I sang the collects, intoned the Sanctus and Agnus Dei, and butchered the final blessing. Oh well, you can’t win them all.”

    Many others have reported excellent progress, and after only a two-day workshop. Thank you to all for your support.
    I would love to have first hand reports from priests or seminarians who attended.

     

    As I have written many times, contact with the Roman Rite, properly celebrated, especially in its older expression, will have a profound impact on the way younger priests think about and celebrate Holy Mass.  This will accelerate the "gravitational pull" of the older use of Mass on the newer.

    Pope Benedict’s "Marshall Plan " is being greatly aided by workshops such as these.

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    Please pray for people and an Abbey threatened by the California fires

    CATEGORY: SESSIUNCULUM — Fr. John Zuhlsdorf @ 9:38 am

    Fr. Stephanos, of Me Monk Me Meander says prayers are needed for their monastery, Prince of Peace Abbey, in Oceanside, CA, not far from where the California fires are burning wildly:

    We are in San Diego County. We are safe for the moment. We have even provided rooms in our guesthouse to about a dozen persons who fled fires further inland. The monastery is two miles from the ocean.

    Our danger is that brush-filled canyons constitute the western and eastern borders of our property. If a fire starts down inside one of them, it would race uphill to the monastery.

     

    Oremus. Deus, in quo vivimus, movemur et sumus: pluviam nobis tribue congruentem; ut, praesentibus subsidiis sufficienter adiuti, sempiterna fiducialius appetamus. Per Dominum nostrum Iesum Christum Filium tuum, qui tecum vivit et regnat in unitate Spiritus Sancti Deus, per omnia saecula saeculorum. Amen.

    Let us pray. O God, in whom we live, move, and have our being, grant us seasonable rain, so that our temporal needs being sufficiently supplied, we may seek with greater confidence after things eternal. Through our Lord Jesus Christ thy Son, who with Thee liveth and reignth in the unity of the Holy Spirit, God for ever. Amen.

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