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  • 17 May 2008

    Remember… it all just “happened”, right?

    CATEGORY: SESSIUNCULUM — Fr. John Zuhlsdorf @ 9:35 pm

    Think about it…

    And some say it is all by accident… it just sort of happened… 

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    Holy See: more on admission of homosexuals to seminaries - “What part of ‘No’ didn’t you understand?”

    CATEGORY: SESSIUNCULUM — Fr. John Zuhlsdorf @ 6:33 pm

    A friend sent me something from L’Osservatore Romano which you may find very interesting.

    What follows was a Rescriptum ex audientia.  This means that someone went in to meet with the Pope, asked a question which was also a written question probably submitted ahead of time, and obtained the response to that question in the meeting.  A rescript was usually something written on the same piece of paper with the query and then sent back, for the sake of brevity.  Simple things are handled simply.  The obvious doesn’t need a complicated process – thus the rescript.

    In this case the rescript is a note from the Secretariate of State.  So, someone very high up, perhaps Card. Bertone, goes into the Pope to discuss their usual stack of stuff, and this question comes to the surface.

    So what does the rescript say?

    Here is the Italian first:

    In riferimento al Documento della Congregazione per l’Educazione Cattolica ‘Istruzione circa i criteri di discernimento vocazionale riguardo alle persone con tendenze omosessuali in vista della loro ammissione al Seminario e agli Ordini sacri’, pubblicato dal menzionato Dicastero il 4 novembre 2005, e in seguito a numerose richieste di chiarimento giunte alla Sede Apostolica, si precisa che le disposizioni contenute in detta Istruzione valgono per tutte le Case di formazione al sacerdozio, comprese quelle che dipendono dai Dicasteri per le Chiese Orientali, per l’Evangelizzazione dei Popoli e per gli Istituti di Vita Consacrata e le Società di Vita Apostolica.

    Il Sommo Pontefice, il giorno 8 del mese di aprile dell’anno del Signore 2008, ha approvato tale precisazione
    Here is my translation:
    In reference to the Document of the Congregation for Catholic Education, ‘Instruction Concerning the Criteria for the Discernment of Vocations with regard to Persons with Homosexual Tendencies in view of their Admission to the Seminary and to Holy Orders‘, published by the aforementioned Dicastery on 4 November 2005, and in consequence of numerous requests for clarification which have reached the Apostolic See, it state precisely that the dispositions contained in said Instruction are in force for all the houses of formation for the priesthood, including those which [juridically] depend on the Dicasteries for Oriental Churches, for the Evangelization of Peoples, and for the Institutes of Consecrated Life and Societies of Apostolic Life.

    The Supreme Pontiff, on the 8th day of April of the year of the Lord of 2008 approved this clarification.
    Interesting no?

    What does the rescript really say? 

    First, a "house of formation" is basically a seminary.

    Obviously some people out there didn’t want to accept the clear meaning of the the document from the Cong. for Catholic Education which says that men with deep seated homosexual tendencies, not just fleeting ideas, etc., should not be admitted to seminary. 

    So, they wrote to the Holy See, "But Holy Father! But Holy Father!", I am sure they wrote, "This document from the Congregation can’t possibly apply to uusss!  After all, our seminary isn’t a diocesan seminary.  We have a _____ seminary!" 

    Fill in the blank with

    1) "seminary for Eastern Catholic priests, run by an eparchy, etc." – which falls under the jurisdiction of the Cong. for Oriental Churches
    2) "seminary run not by a diocese, but one for priests destined for missionary service" – under Propaganda Fidei
    3) "seminary for a religious order or institute"  – under the Cong. for Institutes of Consecrated Life and Societies of Apostolic Life

    Basilically, what this clarification from the Pope does is day, there is no seminary in the world where this does not apply.

    Homosexuals must not be admitted to any seminary in the world.  Period.

    The aforementioned document from the Congregation for Catholic Education must be applied to all seminaries everywhere.  Just do it.

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    Feeder report

    CATEGORY: My View, SESSIUNCULUM — Fr. John Zuhlsdorf @ 1:00 pm

    Hurray!





    UPDATE:

    Behold … the American Goldfinch or Carduelis tristis.



    Perhaps he is sad, tristis, because he isn’t an Indigo?

    You would think that tristis might a better name for this "blue" Bunting.

    I have at least two of these now, both males.  I haven’t seen an females yet. 



    Now here we have the orange variant of the House Finch, or Carpodacus mexicanus.



    Remember what I said about the Goldfinch Eating Team?



    There were six hangning around on the socks a little later, and two on the feeder.

    I am going to have to put my donation button on the bird entires just to keep their greedy little beaks busy.



    Here is the confirmation that I have at least two male Indigo Buntings.

    But I think there is another.  Just after shooting this I went into the kitchen and out of the window I saw another.



    Also, I found that Mr. Red-Breasted Grosbeak had taken the Missus out to supper.

    Notice how much smaller the sparrow is.



    And batting cleanup is the Mourning Dove, Zeniada macroura.


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    Benedict XVI in Savona

    CATEGORY: SESSIUNCULUM — Fr. John Zuhlsdorf @ 11:13 am

    The Holy Father is celebrating Mass right now in Savona.

    Nearly over.




    The choir is singing Mozart’s Ave verum Corpus.



     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    NB: Altar Cross in the center and 7th candle right by It. 

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    PODCAzT 61: Pope Leo I on a post-Pentecost weekday; Fr. Z rambles not quite aimlessly for a while

    CATEGORY: NAPLAM, PODCAzT, SESSIUNCULUM — Fr. John Zuhlsdorf @ 10:28 am

    Today is Saturday in the Octave of Pentecost, or at least it ought to be in in the Novus Ordo as it is in the older, Traditional Roman Calendar. 

    This is the sixth and final PODCAzT for the Pentecost Octave. 

    Sermon 80 of St. Leo the Great (+442), was preached on one of the fast days in the week after Pentecost. It is incredibly short, so we hear it in its entirety in English first and then in Latin.  I give some pointers for how to listen to both the English and what to listen for in the Latin as well.

    Please forgive me for a slip… I forget what century we are presently in.  Oh well…

    Then,
    I just ramble.  More than I usually do, that is.  I wasn’t even going to make this PODCAzT today, but at the last said… what the heck.  So, I look around at the books on my desk and pick things up and just start talking, and creating links between them and what pops into my mind.  This is a bit of an experiment.

    For music,
    we have Come, Holy Ghost from the Choir of Queen’s College, Oxford, then O, Come Holy Spirit by the King’s Consort, then Veni Creator Spiritus by a whole bunch of Franciscans.  Toward the end we hear Veni Sancte Spiritus again from Queen’s College. To wrap it up, Veni Sancte Spiritus, the whole thing, the Sequence in Gregorian Chant sung by the Norbertines at Sant’Antimo in Italy. 




     
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