A Bishop to speak at Call To Action in Milwaukee

Here is an alarming note from a reader:

I just came across the following information regarding the group Call to Action and their national conference to be held Nov 7-9, 2008 in Milwaukee, WI.

I did not know the  nature  of this group so  I  visited the website regarding this conference and found the that retired Bishop Remi De Roo is to speak on women’s "ordination" to the priesthood. [For it, or against it?]

Perhaps, you may consider writing a post about this conference/group as there are  probably others like me that are unaware of this sort of thing  going on.

Thank you for your consideration and  time.  Below are the links.

Main site for  conference information  http://www.cta-usa.org/conference2008/intro.html

Section of site for speakers ( Bishop Remi De Roo) http://www.cta-usa.org/conference2008/keynotes.html

Some background here.

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24 Responses to A Bishop to speak at Call To Action in Milwaukee

  1. FatherAJ says:

    My pastor belongs to Call To Action and I’ve seen some mailings on this. They are having several speakers on various Church and enviromental issues I believe and there will be Womynpriest pretend-Masses.

  2. jarhead462 says:

    Isn’t this the Bishop who celebrated the puppet mass?
    Yikes! I still have nightmares about that.
    They are all off their nut.

    Semper Fi!

  3. Iakovos says:

    Bishop Remi De Roo is the retired bishop of Victoria, British Columbia. He is quite well-known for promoting the “Spirit” of Vatican II, as opposed to its “letter,” so it’s no surprise that he would at a Call to Action Conference. I believe he was a speaker at the education conference of which you, Fr. Z., posted photos showing the folks at Mass in those frightening life-size puppet costumes with the big heads.

  4. Iakovos says:

    You beat me to it, jardhead462. ;-)

  5. Ray from MN says:

    Doesn’t Archbishop Timothy Dolan of Milwaukee have to grant permission for a visiting priest to say Mass in a Catholic church in his archdiocese.

    I know Bishop Thomas Gumbleton (retired auxiliary of Detroit) ran into problems that way in St. Paul and Minneapolis.

  6. chironomo says:

    Yep… Giant Puppet Bishop strikes again!

    Ray, I don’t think he will have to get permission to say Mass….chances are good that a Womynpriest wll be “saying” Mass. No permission needed for that!

    Call to Action is just another infiltration group posing as “concerned Catholic laity”… the end game is an “all-inclusive” Church. meaning openly Gay and Women Priests….

  7. Calleva says:

    I thought Call to Action was largely clerical and religious in membership. That Puppet Mass had lots of gray-haired nuns in the audience, sorry, congregation. The lay version is ‘Voice of the Faithful’ isn’t it? Either way, both movements are full of panicky ageing hippies still dreaming of the 60s and 70s. The younger Catholics (inc those filling the seminaries) are very different, and the future is with them.

    Surely aren’t all ‘womynpriests’ excommunicated? I think you’ll find that CtA will have a male at the altar, with glass vessels and drip dry polyester chasuble. Wonder if their liturgies will be filmed? My guess is no, after last year’s adverse publicity.

  8. Remi de Roo, is an enneagram master according to his own web page. He was the driving force behind the infamous Winnipeg Statement. He bankrupted the Diocese of Victoria using diocesan funds for horses and land deals in Washington and Oregon. He was one of, if not the youngest bishop at the Second Vatican Council…yes, he was the celebrant at that puppet mass dancing with the old gals, looking absolutely stupid and foolish.

    He was an unfortunate appointment to the episcopacy.

    He has damaged greatly the Cathoic Church in Canada.

  9. Volpius says:

    And so it begins, these people will take the vote for Obama as been a vote for them. On the bright side it will make distinguishing the wheat from the chaff easier

  10. mysticalrose says:

    Really CTA is such old news, but I do have one question. Since a chapter of CTA was excommunicated by Bishop Bruskewitz (in Nebraska?), perhaps this will be extended to the national conference as well?

  11. Brian says:

    One would think a bishop would not only have the right to control faculties of visitors within his diocese, but can indeed ban him from speaking on behalf of the Church. If he does so anyway, at least there would be the public “don’t listen to him” out there.

    Though I am unsure about what control a bishop, even an ordinary, have over another bishop. Obviously he is still first teacher, but don’t bishops carry their own faculties wherever they go? I suppose you could ban him from masses at parishes and diocesan properties, but could you deny a bishop the saying of mass publicly elsewhere?

  12. TNCath says:

    Even if it is at a Call to Action meeting, can’t Archbishop Dolan forbid him to speak in his archdiocese?

  13. Kazimer says:

    Fr Z and fellow readers ~

    The speaker section for the Call to Action national conference to be held Nov 7-9, 2008 in Milwaukee, WI. shows Bishop Remi De Roo as one of their key speakers.

    http://www.cta-usa.org/conference2008/keynotes.html

    Midway through the write-up in the speaker section on Bishop Remi De Roo ,it clearly states :

    “Today he speaks for the ordination of women.”

    I am glad that Fr. Z posted this information, so those faithful Catholics (who may not be aware of such goings on) may be alerted to the alarming activity of the Call to Action organization and of Bishop Remi De Roos’s participation and support.

  14. Henry Edwards says:

    Actually, I wonder what’s “alarming” if someone talks about something that, in fact, the Church does not have the power to do. For instance, what would be the harm to letting someone talk at Call to Action, if he/she/it insists, about the Church turning off the law of gravitation? Fine with me.

  15. Not surprising. I believe CTA has their convention here in Milwaukee every year
    and that it has only been in recent years that the Archdiocese has not allowed them
    to meet on Diocesan property.
    As a convert to the Church, I am always surprised at how much the Bishops tolerate when it comes
    to individuals promoting heresy in the Church and how little Catholics,
    in general seem to know about their faith. I grew up as a Jehovah’s Witness because my mother left the
    Lutheran Church to join it when I was five years old. My Lutheran family stayed Lutheran (except for my mother)……However,many of my Catholic relatives, followed my mother right into the JWs
    and many of them are still JWs today. Knowing what I know about the Catholic faith, I could
    never understand why someone would want to give up the fullness of the Catholic Church for the JWs. But, then again,
    there, but for the grace of God go I and I was blessed to have entered the Church in the Diocese of
    Lincoln, NE where I was actually taught the Catechism. I suppose others have not been as blessed.

  16. QC says:

    It’s not fine, to follow the analogy, if it causes people to think they can fly and they go jumping off cliffs to their deaths.

  17. Chris Hess says:

    I find the quip on what the bishop-emeritus is going to speak on alarming.

    —-
    Vatican II said the basic sacraments for ministry are
    baptism/confirmation, not holy orders. But the restorationists led by John
    Paul II have been trying to roll back Vatican II. De Roo trusts the Spirit and
    keeps fighting clericalism. He says, “Vatican II ideas— religious liberty,
    conscience, justice — are more relevant than ever. We need to reclaim that
    freedom. There is no scriptural basis for a monarchical episcopacy.”

    That is certainly an odd view of Vatican II and a skewed understanding of theology… that is a nice way of saying it.

  18. Charlotte says:

    Hi,
    We live in the Milwaukee area, and while we have no idea how we got on their mailing list, we always get the brochure in the mail for this conference. We just laugh and laugh at the titles of the seminar sessions – it reads like a brochure for PETA or Amnesty International or some other lefty liberal peace-love fest. And we always just shake our heads at how sad it all is. YES, I wish Archbishop Timothy Dolan would speak up and out about this group (as I wish he would’ve spoken up MORE and LOUDER about abortion and the election.)

  19. Baronius says:

    Remi de Roo is more than just a heretic & a fool; he is also a criminal. The financial wrongdoing regarding the racehorses in Washington State was the subject of an extensive investigation. Although criminal charges were never brought against de Roo & his operatives, there was clearly sufficient evidence to support criminal fraud charges.

    Remi “Racehorse” de Roo belongs in jail.

  20. TNCath says:

    From The Arizona Republic, February 2007:

    “Bishop Thomas Gumbleton of Detroit must seek permission from local bishops anywhere he wishes to speak, by order of the papal nuncio, the Vatican’s ambassador to the United States, according to local leaders of Call to Action. The group has taken a variety of positions at odds with church policy.”

    If this is truly the case, then why cannot this be applied to Bishop de Roo?

  21. Dave DeCleene says:

    Bishop DeRoo has long been a fixture here in Hawaii
    on the “Heretics in Paradise” circuit. Our diocese
    has long welcomed his ilk, that tired but
    unstoppable attempt to destroy Holy Mother Church
    from within. Bishop Silva, to his credit, I believe
    is a faithful bishop, but like Bishop Dolan, has to fight
    fight first and foremost with his inherited
    bureaucracy.

  22. Jeff Pinyan says:

    Here’s the quip on the Bishop from the CTA web site:

    Embrace our World! Herald a New Pentecost!
     
    Bishop Remi De Roo, 84, is a pilgrim of Vatican II. He keeps preaching it because it must not be forgotten! Named a bishop in 1962, right after Vatican II began, he participated in all four sessions, the youngest bishop present, became its articulate apostle, and spent 37 years in Victoria, B.C, trying to embody the Vatican II vision of church. Since retirement, his mission is to share that message with others, especially young people. De Roo for years chaired social justice for the Canadian bishops. Bold statements were issued on behalf of victims of injustice, even women. Today he speaks for the ordination of women. He also knows the power struggle over ministry. Vatican II said the basic sacraments for ministry are baptism/confirmation, not holy orders. But the restorationists led by John Paul II have been trying to roll back Vatican II. De Roo trusts the Spirit and keeps fighting clericalism. He says, “Vatican II ideas — religious liberty, conscience, justice — are more relevant than ever. We need to reclaim that freedom. There is no scriptural basis for a monarchical episcopacy.”

  23. Brian says:

    These silly people think they have taken over the U.S. and now think they are now going to take over the Catholic Church. Perhaps their ugly puppets and overweight dancers will do some goofy dances to the cooky jingle, “This is the dawning of the age of Aquarius.”

    Heretics have been around doing those monkey shines since the beginning of the Church. They have always been wrong. They still are.

  24. Michael Gormally says:

    BISHOP REMI DE ROO WRITES OF HIMSELF THUS:

    Reflections As a Vatican II Council Father having participated in all four sessions from 1962-65, I continue to proclaim its message whenever and wherever possible.

    The book “BIBLICAL CHARACTERS AND THE ENNEAGRAM: Images of Transformation,” co-authored with Diane Tolomeo and Pearl Gervais (published by Newport Bay Publishing, Victoria, Canada 2002) is one attempt to put into practice some of the renewed orientations proposed by the Second Vatican Council. This passage is taken from the preface:

    “… the Second Vatican Council (1962-65), in the document entitled Dei Verbum (On Divine Revelation), stated that, since in the sacred scripture God speaks through humans in human fashion, those who interpret and comment on the scriptures must pay close attention to, among other things, the particular literary forms, or genres, which occur in the Bible. This entails examining forms of narration which prevailed at the time of the writing and respecting the conventions which people of the time used in dealing with one another (Dei Verbum 3:12). By using the Enneagram as a tool to help us read and deepen our understanding of the biblical narratives, we are attempting to do that very thing. For example, bringing insights gained from reading and analyzing literary texts to a study of John’s Gospel helps us recognize and interpret patterns and images in the gospel in a deeply metaphorical as well as a literal sense. Our knowledge of how motifs and repetitions work in literary genres opens up the gospel in ways which a strictly literal reading cannot do.”