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Why are you so obsessed with stacking polls? Do you think this actually accomplishes anything? If anything, it makes the polls less accurate, and thus less useful. We, as faithful Catholics, should be soberly aware of the fact that we’re philosophically outnumbered. Stacking a decidedly non-scientific web poll won’t change public opinion or be viewed by politicians as mandate from the masses.
Comment by adt6247 — 19 November 2009 @ 1:00 pmadt,
Comment by MichaelJ — 19 November 2009 @ 1:19 pmI disagree. What is the purpose of this poll (or any poll) if not to influence public opinion or direct some political change? Do you really think that it will serve no purpose other than to satisfy idle curiosity?
adt6247, the polls are NOT restricted to local areas. If such polls requested that residents within a certain geographic vicinity should vote, then I would not participate (unless I were a resident).
Comment by ghp95134 — 19 November 2009 @ 2:42 pmWell I actually live in Australia but not in South Australia. I don’t want this kind of legislation in my State and such legislation has a way of creeping over State borders. I am very glad to know that there is such a Poll.
Comment by JARay — 19 November 2009 @ 5:22 pmFollowing my previous post, my own State of Western Australia now has such legislation before it for consideration! The Premier, speaking on the radio said that he did not expect it to pass but he was allowing the House a “conscience” vote. This was then followed by an advocate of the euthanasia lobby who put forth the argument that the “conscience” should not represent the politician but his/her electorate since more than 80% of the population are in favour of this legislation!
Comment by JARay — 19 November 2009 @ 6:58 pmI hope that the Premier is right in his opinion of the outcome!
You will be pleased to know that this legislation failed in the Legislative Council (upper house) by essentially 1 vote when a Liberal party (read ‘conservative’ member) who had previously indicated he would support its introduction changed his mind.
Deo gratias. However this won’t be over.
Meanwhile in the jurisdiction of the Australian Capital Territory a ‘Civil Unions’ (aka gay marriage) law has just come into effect. It is possible that it will be overturned as inconsistent with the Federal Marriage Act. However with Labor in power this is less certain than the previous 2 times.
Comment by Peter — 20 November 2009 @ 6:41 am