TONIGHT: LIVE streamed Presidential ProLife Forum in SC with candidates

14 Comments

1. Dr. K says:

   18 January 2012 at 11:38 AM

   Mitt Romney wouldn’t be able to participate with a straight face:

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_w9pquznG4
2. jasoncpetty says:

   18 January 2012 at 11:57 AM

   This oughtta be good. I wonder if Ron Paul will get any grief a la the American Right to Life piece that called him pro-choice because he disagreed with a part of their tactic. An attorney sort of responded to that attack here–long story short, Paul doesn’t believe we should violate the Constitution to end abortion, he thinks he has a better plan (jurisdiction-stripping). ARTL’s President, Mrs. Lolita Hanks, stated: “Either Ron Paul will use governmental authority to stop the slaughter of children, or he is just another worthless politician.” Ouch!

   The whole exchange re tactics for ending abortion kind of reminded me of the famous dialogue between St. Thomas More and his son-in-law William Roper from A Man for All Seasons, which illustrates the danger of a zeal that focuses on the short-term victory at the expense of valuable, long-term protections we Christians might desperately need–as our founders envisioned–if and when the tide turns against us:

   Roper: “So now you’d give the devil the benefit of law?”
   More: “Yes. What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the devil?”
   Roper: “I’d cut down every law in England to do that.”
   More: “Oh, and when the last law was down, and the devil turned on you, where would you hide, Roper, all the laws being flat? This country is planted thick with laws from coast to coast, man’s laws not God’s, and if you cut them down — and you’re just the man to do it — do you really think that you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I’d give the devil the benefit of the law, for my own safety’s sake.”

   Should be a really interesting debate! Santorum’s bona fides are clear; he has a good answer for the Arlen Spector debacle (he supported Spector because Spector controlled judicial nominations). Gingrich makes me wonder–thoughts, anyone? Perry has been good in Texas, if erratic, but he’s an Exceptioner (life, health, rape, incest, etc.). Romney’s truly a “worthless politician,” as the video above demonstrates.

   One thing’s for sure: I am not voting for another candidate who treats abortion like a carrot-on-a-stick issue, riding the pro-life donkey into election after election but never giving us our carrot, a la George W. Bush the Exceptioner who had majorities in BOTH houses and did nothing and wouldn’t even show up at a March to Life!
3. jasoncpetty says:

   18 January 2012 at 12:01 PM

   Wait, turns out Perry isn’t a Total Exceptioner. He’s only a mother’s-lifer now.
4. jasoncpetty says:

   18 January 2012 at 12:06 PM

   Poor Ron Paul—imagine trying to Sound Bite this in the debate!

   (Sorry, Fr. Z, my GYOB lunchbreak is now over.)
5. wanda says:

   18 January 2012 at 12:11 PM

   Thank you for publicising this event, Fr. Z. It is absolutley crucial that we vote for pro-life candidates, on every level. The stuff that goes on is truly evil. Int’l. PP wants to increase by 82% the number of abortions in Africa. Our money is being used to kill the most innocent of all God’s children both here and around the world. We must vote this administration out of office. We must. St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle.
6. NoTambourines says:

   18 January 2012 at 12:19 PM

   Perry lost me a long time ago when he tried to piggyback the mandatory HPV vaccine onto the pro-life platform in the gubernatorial race. Bringing in other battles to fight doesn’t help in the fight against abortion, and confuses the issue of what it means to be “pro-life.”
7. Mary Jane says:

   18 January 2012 at 12:30 PM

   I’m hoping I can watch! Should be good. Santorm and Paul are the only two that seem to have anything of real pro-life substance on their campaign websites. The issue doesn’t seem that important to the others.
8. Athanasius says:

   18 January 2012 at 12:53 PM

   I hope there is some discussion about the anti-life nature of the phony “war on terror” which is completely contrary to Catholic social principles.
9. ivan_the_mad says:

   18 January 2012 at 12:58 PM

   I could not glean from the website the particulars of the forum topics. Will this forum only cover abortion, or other pro-life issues such as unjust wars, the death penalty, euthanasia, and embryonic stem cell research?
10. ivan_the_mad says:

    18 January 2012 at 1:02 PM

    @Athanasius: I recognize that picture! Excellent article on catastrophe preparations.
11. Athanasius says:

    18 January 2012 at 1:34 PM

    @Athanasius: I recognize that picture! Excellent article on catastrophe preparations.

    Thanks. I’ve got another one coming out on the same subject sometime soon.
12. Navy Jeff says:

    19 January 2012 at 12:06 AM

    @Mary Jane
    I think you are right about Paul and Santorum being the most pro-life (in the anti-abortion sense) candidates in the debate. It’s a shame Santorum spends so much time criticizing Paul via straw man arguments, and supporting the killing of civilian scientists.
    In my mind, unless he has changed his mind, that makes him less pro-life than Paul, by far.
13. Athanasius says:

    19 January 2012 at 12:45 PM

    The Romney file: I think, especially after viewing this, that Romney is little different from Obama, as his funding seems to show us.

    Romney File
14. Martial Artist says:

    20 January 2012 at 11:53 AM

    As far as a reasoned argument in favor of Paul over Santorum, I would offer the following brief video by Catholic historian Thomas E. Woods, Jr.: http://tinyurl.com/7nwtv8z.

    Father Z, I am somewhat surprised at a more recent comment by you in re:

    Ron Paul supporters … chiming in, at least those whose critical reading skills are underdeveloped.

    But I do thank you for the qualifier, as those of us who find his arguments compelling are not all unreasoning individuals.

    Pax et bonum,
    Keith Töpfer

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