The newest vile Obama campaign ad an insult to women

Have you seen the slimy new video ad from the Obama campaign?  It is disgusting.

Here is some analysis from CNA:

Catholic analyst reacts to Obama campaign’s new ‘anti-woman’ ad
By Hillary Senour

Chicago, Ill., Oct 26, 2012 / 05:06 pm (CNA/EWTN News).- A nonpartisan political analyst says Obama’s new ad featuring a young woman describing her “first time” voting for the president in terms similar to losing her virginity is “nothing short of demeaning and sexist” towards women.

“As a woman, I am horribly offended by this ad,” Kara Mone of CatholicVote.org told CNA Oct. 26.

In the ad, 26 year-old actress and writer Lena Dunham, tells the camera that, “Your first time shouldn’t be with just anybody. You want to do it with a great guy – someone who really cares about and understands women.”

“A guy who cares about whether or not you get health insurance, specifically whether you get birth control,” Dunham added.

The political advertisement, featuring Dunham likening her “first time” voting for President Obama to her first sexual encounter has received just over 275,000 views on YouTube, with nearly 9,000 “dislikes” and roughly 6,600 “likes.”

Mone said the ad is “anti-woman” because it sends the message that female voters are essentially “reducible” to their reproductive organs.

“Mr. Obama has constantly reminded young women during this campaign that all we need to be concerned with is sex, birth control and abortion on demand,” she said.

Dunham closes the video saying, “My first time voting was amazing. It was this line in the sand. Before I was a girl, now I was a woman.”

The ad, which has only been released online, has received mixed reviews in the video’s comments section, with some calling it “clever” and others referring to the ad as “creepy.”

Mone said that for Dunham “to suggest that voting for Obama is what made her a woman” is “a slap in the face to women,” especially those who “have worked hard to become what they are today through hard work, dedication and sacrifice.”

The Obama for America campaign did not respond to requests for comment from CNA by publication time.

The First Gay President has descended into pandering, even in its true sense. He is all about abortion and contraception. He strives to appeal to his base by appeal to the base.

Trying to be soooo clever.  Winding up being vile instead.

Friends, get out the vote. Warm up your cars and help people get to the polls.

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83 Responses to The newest vile Obama campaign ad an insult to women

  1. Phillip says:

    I’m fine with edgy. I’m even okay with a bit of innuendo. This is just gross and immoral.

    “Before I was a girl, now I was a woman.” What an inspiring message, Mr. President.

  2. wmeyer says:

    Vile it is, and bizarre, as well. It is difficult to imagine a young woman with any sense holding this perspective. The technical term “airhead” comes to mind.

  3. frjim4321 says:

    I can see where people would take offense. There are many offensive ads this season.

  4. chantgirl says:

    This commercial has more to do with Obama’s narcissism than anything any girl ever felt voting. The sugar-daddy-in-chief can leave our men to die terrible deaths in Benghazi, put a bullet in the head of a crippled economy, trample on our right to free speech and religion, and set our children and grandchildren up for slavery to our debtors, but as long as we shower the young with free contraception, everything’s all good. Trust me ladies, this is one “first time” that will leave you with some serious Sunday-morning regert.

  5. chantgirl says:

    Regret.

  6. Diane at Te Deum Laudamus says:

    It’s objectively immoral, not just offensive to some people.

    Consider this was on Obama’s website along with a picture of Mitt Romney wearing a dunce cap. It’s all worse than sophomoric. I feel like there are frat boys running the White House.

    It’s time for some adults. Do use your vote wisely people. Limiting evil is an appropriate and permissible strategy.

  7. Dr. K says:

    “Doing it” with President Obama only leads to “STDs” such as high unemployment, increased national debt, and a weak economy.

  8. rtjl says:

    Bread and circuses? Might as well throw a few bordellos and bath houses in there too.

  9. eyeclinic says:

    And doing it for the first time with a woman with a big tatoo on her arm is like…I’m too nauseated to even contemplate it! Fail, big time!

  10. contrarian says:

    Yeah, I thought it was a joke at first. But it’s totally real.

    If there’s any bright spot here, it’s that many on the left at least recognize this as extremely tacky (even if they aren’t ‘offended’ by the celebration of fornication).

    My money is on a funny parody of this ad on SNL in the near future.

  11. StJude says:

    A new low by Obama… which is saying a lot.
    Its so beneath the Presidency of the United States.
    10 more days, folks.

  12. StJude says:

    contrarian says: “My money is on a funny parody of this ad on SNL in the near future.”

    Have you seen the Steven Crowder parody? Its hilarious. Its on You tube.

  13. Amy Giglio says:

    I think it’s funny that when I played the video, a Google ad for Mitt Romney’s campaign popped up at the bottom.

  14. majuscule says:

    Dunham?

    Is this girl a cousin, perhaps?

    If so, there could be consanguinity issues…

  15. bookworm says:

    “Have you seen the Steven Crowder parody? It’s hilarious. ”

    I have, and it is. Best line: “I was a girl, and now I am a woman — a woman who can stay on her parents’ insurance until 26, burden countless generations to come with my debt and not even have to pay for my own birth control.”

    If it’s any consolation, the latest polling as reported by AP and others shows that the vaunted “gender gap” between Romney and Obama has vanished or is nearly gone, meaning that women are now flocking to the Romney camp despite all the “war on women” posturing of the last few months. This ad is obviously a desperate, beyond ham-handed attempt to try to get them back, or at least get back the young, single women.

  16. PostCatholic says:

    I thought it funny and clever, but I can see where it would make someone with old-fashioned views of sexuality cringe. I suppose this is about firing up the base, not about making an appeal to the middle.

  17. La Sandia says:

    Forget even about this being beneath the dignity of the office of the President. As a father of two young daughters, Mr. Obama deserves nothing but contempt and scorn for lending his tacit approval to this crass and demeaning video. But then again, what do you expect from a father that would not hesitate to usher his daughters to a Planned Parenthood abortion mill should they make a “mistake”?

  18. PA mom says:

    We’ve come a long way, baby…

    “they are firing up their base..”. and ours.

  19. kab63 says:

    Ironically, this ad only “works” when the candidate is a man. Its precursors in Australia and Russia are also of young women palpitating over male candidates. If you’re . . . cosmopolitan . . . enough to not find this ad offensive on moral grounds, you should find it outrageous on feminist ones.

  20. lh says:

    Goes to show what obama thinks about women and how shallow and base some women have become. There is nothing clever or funny about this ad. God gave everyone brains so they could use them, it’s painfully obvious the woman in this ad is not.

  21. dominic says:

    It’s disgusting and contemptible. but what’s very odd is that , while the overall tone here is far sleazier, this ads is resembles in its basic message (down to some of the exact words used) a series of ads that were used to promote Vladimir Putin’s campaign for the Russian Presidency earlier in the year.

  22. acardnal says:

    I wonder what his daughters think of this video?

  23. VexillaRegis says:

    Poor Mrs Obama. How disgusting.

  24. robtbrown says:

    lh says:

    Goes to show what obama thinks about women and how shallow and base some women have become. There is nothing clever or funny about this ad. God gave everyone brains so they could use them, it’s painfully obvious the woman in this ad is not.

    She seems preoccupied with the use of another organ.

  25. disco says:

    She’s from the HBO show Girls. Not funny there not funny here

  26. heway says:

    @ Post Catholic – this is not my old fashioned view of sexuality that makes me cringe. It is the idea that this girl’s ‘below the belly button’ gonads are more important than the ‘grey matter’ between her ears. She has been denigrated and doesn’t know it!
    This whole ‘get the female vote’ by the DNC has been degrading to all women. Sadly, many of these gals are university grads. Pray for future generations.

  27. APX says:

    I think I’m going to vomit. I am going to send this to my former Women’s Studies prof, though. It will get shown in her class, as she berates Obama and flies off the handle in a fit of rage at the “mockery this makes of suffrage”. And I don’t even like feminists and what have you.

  28. ckdexterhaven says:

    Obama has ordained men publicly supporting him. Yes, even after this offensive video.

  29. Angie Mcs says:

    Does this actress look like Sandra Fluke or is it just me? Our President should call her up and congratulate her on her great acting job, that he has two daughters and would be proud to have them do an ad like this when they grow up. And now they can certainly get tattoos – how could Daddy say no?

    Seriously, to think that the President is adding to our society’s continually crumbling sexual values, pushing premarital sex on young women for his own political gain, is past words. I think Father’s “vile” is about the best that comes to mind.

  30. jhayes says:

    This article links the story back to Ronald Reagan:

    “But just as every generation thinks it invented sex, a “first time” joke about voting goes way back to another presidential candidate: Ronald Reagan, less than a week before he ushered in the Republican landslide of 1980.

    The Washington Post reported on Nov. 1, 1980, on Reagan’s outreach to blue-collar voters”

  31. NoTambourines says:

    If this is the voter they’re looking for, they’ve just re-re-re-re-confirmed to me why they don’t have my vote.

    As a woman, it’s insulting on so many levels:

    - It’s incredibly patronizing.
    - It glorifies irresponsible behavior, and for that matter, sin.
    - As with the bigger birth control discussion, where are the men? The burden is entirely on the woman to chemically bomb her body into submission.
    - To throw pills at something that isn’t an illness and can be managed through responsible behavior is to treat human beings like dumb animals, and is a waste. My celibacy is now saving the government and Big Pharma money, while I pay out the nose for prescriptions to manage an actual medical condition I was born with.

  32. NBW says:

    How disgusting. The fact that Obama is allowing this ad to air shows his disrespect for women; he is just using their vote to push Planned Parenthood. And if this young lady received money for this ad…

  33. It’s the logical follow-on to that “lady parts” line from Campaign Obama a couple of weeks ago. Apparently they were serious.
    As an earlier commenter wrote, it’s degrading to women voters and, even more, to the Presidency.

  34. bookworm says:

    “a “first time” joke about voting goes way back to another presidential candidate: Ronald Reagan”

    Apples and oranges. The Reagan joke was an off-the-cuff remark told in a New Jersey bar, to an entirely adult audience who presumably would be tolerant of slightly off-color humor. It was not broadcast/posted online as a paid campaign advertisement that could be seen by anyone. Nor was it highly publicized at the time, IIRC; I was 16 when Reagan was elected and I’ve never heard of it until now.

  35. Phillip says:

    This will probably backfire. It’s unpresidential and embarrassing. And there are still a few undecided voters out there. Last time I checked, my 76 year old grandfather was one of them. I’m pretty sure he and others like him have taken a turn for “decided” – and not in a way that’s favorable to Mr. Obama.

  36. @Philip: that’s good news! Do please check with your grandpa and, if he needs one, give him a ride to the polling station, okay?

  37. APX says:

    @Wmeyer
    The technical term “airhead” comes to mind.

    No, this is even below the technical term “airhead”. I emailed this to my SIL who,as uncharitable as this sounds, is your typical blonde airhead. Even she found this offensive and disgusting.

  38. bookworm says:

    “Warm up your cars and help people get to the polls.”

    Especially if you live in areas likely to be impacted by Hurricane Sandy, aka The Frankenstorm, which has the potential to cause widespread power failures that COULD last into Election Day. If you are in an area threatened by this storm (anywhere from the Norfolk/Hampton Roads, VA, area north to Boston, and possibly beyond) and can vote early or absentee, you should probably do so no later than Monday afternoon.

  39. THREEHEARTS says:

    does archbishop dolan still support obama

  40. frjim4321 says:

    It’s objectively immoral, not just offensive to some people.

    Like lying.

  41. Tom says:

    Diane at te Deum wrote: ” I feel like there are frat boys running the White House.” If only…

  42. robtbrown says:

    frjim4321 says:
    It’s objectively immoral, not just offensive to some people.

    Like lying.

    Are you referring to Biden and Obama?

  43. MisterH says:

    I have linked below to an amazing homily about our responsibilities as Catholics with the election looming.

    Indiana priest Fr. Sammie Maletta delivers a powerful and thought-provoking homily on the moral truths that we as Catholics are called to defend as citizens in in a free society…

    THIS INSPIRATIONAL HOMILY IS WORTH YOUR TIME — IT IS THAT GOOD!

    http://allhands-ondeck.blogspot.com/2012/10/inspirational-election-homily-fr-sammie.html

  44. frjim4321 says:

    That shoe fits a lot of people, Robert.

    I thought the add was clever and funny at first, then reading some posts here I see how it would be considered offensive to some, and could promote a very shallow view of sexuality . . . but it doesn’t bother me any more than the vast majority of other political adds, especially anything from Crossroads.

  45. ckdexterhaven says:

    Like lying…. Oh really.

    Like 240+ drone strikes ordered by Crossorads? Oops, I mean personally chosen by Obama? How many innocent Pakistanis were killed by Crossroads?

    Dang Crossroads,running ads with children !! singing this song…
    Imagine an America
    Where strip mines are fun and free
    Where gays can be fixed
    And sick people just die
    And oil fills the sea

    No, my bad. Crossroads didn’t accuse Obama of wanting to kill sick people, that’s a pro-Obama ad. No lies, it’s only ” offensive’, not immoral. Republicans must be defeated, so their endless lies and warmongering must be stopped. but hey, at least the Republican Party wanted those kids to make it through pregnancy.

    Fine, don’t vote Romney or Republican. I could understand how someone would conceivably not vote Republican. Please don’t endorse the Party of Death or its candidate. Is that too much to ask of a priest?

  46. ckdexterhaven says:

    Link to the Future Children ad. http://vimeo.com/52195925

    “Re electing Obama is a momentous decision that will require every single voter. What would the future children of America say if we let them down this November?”

    Hey kids, Obama didn’t want your mothers “punished with a baby”, and he voted 4 times to let your mothers’ doctor kill you if you somehow survived the abortion she chose. Kids, there are even Catholic priests who support the guy who considers you ‘punishment’. Sorry we let you down if Obama gets re elected.

  47. Springkeeper says:

    I think this ad is silly and childish in a weirdly perverse way and the female-ish person looks and sounds like a young teenager. I am really at a loss why liberal-types are so obsessed with sex, don’t they have any hobbies?

  48. aviva meriam says:

    What is it about Cult members wanting to have sex with their leaders??????
    I cannot believe a father of two beautiful young woman would approve that message.

    And yes this is an American version of a Putin Ad……
    Deprogramming begins Nov 7

  49. yatzer says:

    ” Before I was a girl, now I was a woman.” THAT is what he thinks makes us women? His attitudes are even worse than I thought, which is difficult. What an insult to every woman in existence.

  50. LisaP. says:

    This video isn’t horrifying because it uses metaphors of sexual promiscuity, no matter how much defenders may be unable to see it otherwise. It is horrifying not because the image of sexuality is new fangled or shallow, or because Republicans can’t take a joke. It’s horrifying because it’s *creepy*! Seriously, guy in a raincoat on the corner /Anthony Weiner /Larry Craig creepy. A fifty-something married man has paid (by proxie) a twenty-something girl to act on video as if she really wants to have sex with him. Ick! Add in all the other stuff (any gal not wanting to have sex with him must have something wrong with her, what women want in a man is someone who will always remember the contraception before he has sex with her and then hands her cab money, not to mention the “was a girl, now a woman” line which, if you parse it, means that she had sex when she was not a woman yet) and you’re up to your neck in dysfunction, neurosis, codependency, all sorts of sick stuff.

    My kids and I were at a pizza place the other day, some thirty five year old guy with a cigarette behind his ear, tattoos all over his body, wearing cargo shorts and an “Insane Clown Posse” t-shirt was hitting on the college student behind the counter. She politely smiled, and slipped into the conversation several times how darned busy she was with work and school (she successfully deterred him from asking her out). It’s just gross.

  51. VexillaRegis says:

    @Lisa P: Spot on!

  52. Gail F says:

    So patronizing and stupid. But I am amazed that the campaign would think an ad for Vladamir Putin is a good thing to emulate!

  53. MrTipsNZ says:

    I’m from New Zealand and in terms of social media ads, the thunderclap of pathetic and stuck on stupid this ad represents nearly caused a tsunami of vomit even down here. Putin is a political joke, a dangerous one at that, but still a joke; why would you copy him?

    For a start, if Obama took his own advice, does that mean any voter for him should use a condom and render the vote sterile and unproductive? Or, in this context (which he has created), is there a very real fear that a vote for Obama could spread some malignant and horrible disease?

  54. Angie Mcs says:

    I don’t really want to give this any more attention but as I look over the Internet, I see that it seems that blogs and websites are dividing this up into “Republicans/ Conservatives hate this” vs “Democrats/Liberals are highly amused” by the the other side’s reaction. I am saddened that this has become another partisan issue, and that society at large isn’t together on what is going on here. How could so many people be missing the point?
    Lisa P: your observation is right on – this is indeed extremely creepy.

  55. chantgirl says:

    GailF- Just be glad we haven’t seen any Obama shirtless on horseback, Putin-style ads. This campaign is starting to have a Jerry Springer feel to it.

  56. PostCatholic says:

    “Society at large isn’t together on what is going on here.” Angie Mcs, in large part because society at large does not share the views of the Catholic church, viz. that sex before or outside of marriage is a crime, that all people have a “vocation to chastity” and should serve an “apprenticeship of self-mastery,” and that “sexual pleasure is morally disordered when sought for itself apart from its procreative and unitive purposes.”

    Those are counter-cultural values of an ardent (in my view, benighted) minority.

  57. Katheryn says:

    I’m just horrified that there are women out there who will think this is amusing. They are unable to critically evaluate what implications are being made about their very nature!

  58. drea916 says:

    “A guy who cares about whether or not you get health insurance, specifically whether you get birth control”

    See, it’s the man who’s ACTUALLY having relations with you that this should apply to, and not to someone who is hundred of miles away, or thousands of taxpayers. She has it backwards.

  59. deliberatejoy says:

    “A guy who cares about whether or not you get health insurance, specifically whether you get birth control.’

    Yeah. Nothing like a guy who expresses concern for your ‘well being’ while actually and obviously obsessed with getting what he wants without having to worry about entirely natural repercussions. Come to think of it, that’s an entirely accurate summation of the principles of both contraception and politics. Neither practitioner wants to commit to you; he just wants your vote and/or body.

  60. Angie Mcs says:

    Post Catholic: Had you read my second comment carefully you would have understood that i was upset that our President had used young women for his own gain and trivialized the experience of sexual intimacy. And that rather than seeing this as being a negative thing, it once again turned into a partisan argument.

    I didnt bring up the Catholic point of view as you did, complete with quotes. This ad is wrong for so many reasons, whether you are Catholic, Jewish or whatever, whether the numbers on YouTube are higher or not, whether Obama wins or not. It’s what it does to the young woman, to herself as a person, that causes so much inner damage and loss of self respect. You say you find this clever and funny and that’s your right. I don’t agree with you, nor do many others on this site, all with very good reasons. I think it’s best we leave it at that.

  61. Tom Ryan says:

    Your comment is awaiting moderation

    There’s a great parody already out there
    http://youtu.be/wAkdHzpXXo0

  62. California Girl 21 says:

    Steven Crowder has a very good parody also:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSxDE1QCHA4

  63. JKnott says:

    THREE HEARTS “does archbishop dolan still support obama”

    He recently called this evil man “honorable”. Said obama ” loves God and country” Yep, that’s what the Cardinal said.
    I don’t know what is worse; this pathetic girl on the video or the above proclamation by the Cardinal.

    And here is an “old-fashioned” and “counter-cultural” proclamation by the Mother of God at Fatima:
    “More souls go to Hell because of the sins of the flesh than for any other reason.” Yep good old-fashioned hell.

  64. frjim4321 says:

    I don’t get it. Speaking as somewhat of an outsider I’m seeing the same kind of frantic resignation that I saw here four years ago around this time, yet the polls are still pretty much within the margin of error. As I see it , this is still a horse race, but it seems like bitter resignation is already bubbling up on the side of those who would prefer to see the incumbent defeated.

  65. ckdexterhaven says:

    No bitter resignation here. Like Archbishop Chaut says, we’re Catholics before Americans. I place my hope in Jesus. I do love this country, and I have hope this incumbent is defeated. And I hope that the clergy who support him have their hearts changed.

  66. robtbrown says:

    The ad is a good example of what is currently happening in the US: What was previously only appropriate in private conversation has now been approved for public consumption. This is based on the notion that every private impulse is legitimate–to be expressed verbally and/or in action. It is supposedly intended to deepen emotional involvement, but in fact, it superficializes it.

    And anyone who objects is denigrated.

  67. frjim4321 says:

    What was previously only appropriate in private conversation has now been approved for public consumption.

    I don’t know if I agree, Robert. By public discussion do you mean that issues pertaining to sexuality should not be discussed openly? I have usually found that excessive secrecy and fear around such issues are indicative of unaddressed shame and repression.

  68. wmeyer says:

    frjim, when discussion of sexuality is focused on the strictly sensual, and when it is considered fit for nationally televised innuendo, then I have found that those so quick to speak have no sense whatever of the sacred, and are consumed by the profane.

    As to the election, we shall see. It appears to me that the panic on the side of the incumbent has become rather intense, and when one turns away from the pre-packaged numbers given by the MSM, then things seem to have shifted rather nicely. MOE, indeed. I continue to pray, but am more hopeful for our Republic than a couple of weeks ago.

  69. wmeyer says:

    By public discussion do you mean that issues pertaining to sexuality should not be discussed openly?

    frjim, are you suggesting that the commercial under discussion represents a mature and rational discussion of sexuality? It seemed to me simply to have been aiming at titillation, and rather puerile; something more suited to the boys’ locker room of adolescents.

  70. frjim4321 says:

    wm, no

    (1) i think the ad was targeted at women, not boys … from my recollection of the boy’s locker room this ad was fairly bland

    (2) i was replying to robert’s statement … and did not necessarily believe that his comparison was apt

  71. acardnal says:

    FrJim, the ad may be “targeted at women” but it is broadcast over the open airwaves at all times of day for all to see/hear including young children.

  72. frjim4321 says:

    FrJim, the ad may be “targeted at women” but it is broadcast over the open airwaves at all times of dy for all to see/hear including young children.

    Only if something changed . . . my info was that it never aired – just on the internet.

  73. acardnal says:

    Even if only on YouTube, it is accessible to kids . . . especially!

  74. frjim4321 says:

    . . . but it is not, as you said, “broadcast over the open airwaves at all times of day.”

    Kids who are surfing the internet aren’t very interested in political ads, and there are far, far worse things on YouTube.

  75. chantgirl says:

    Looks like Youtube beat SNL to the punch on this one.

  76. frjim4321 says:

    Chantgirl
    Oct 28 – 4:08 pm
    Looks like Youtube beat SNL to the punch on this one.

    - I thought snl was a repeat last night?

  77. Springkeeper says:

    “A guy who cares about whether or not you get health insurance, specifically whether you get birth control”

    I did some of my clinical hours at the county health department and they had buckets full of all the various type of condoms FOR FREE but the “men” wanted their various hook-ups to use the the pill because it was more convenient for the guy. And then they would get mad at the females for “giving” them STD’s. It was a horribly sad and pathetic experience and I couldn’t wait for my time there to end. When did women decide to allow themselves to be treated so cheaply?

  78. chantgirl says:

    frjim4321- I guess it’s a forfeit by default, then. SNL is typically kinder to democrats than republicans, although Bill Clinton did get his fair share from them. Frankly, the original Obama campaign ad reminds me of something you’d see Michael on The Office put together. I’m surprised this made it through to the website.

  79. robtbrown says:

    frjim4321 says:
    What was previously only appropriate in private conversation has now been approved for public consumption.

    I don’t know if I agree, Robert. By public discussion do you mean that issues pertaining to sexuality should not be discussed openly?

    It is hard to understand how you could have thought I was referring to that–esp. in light of your locker room remark. I have been in football, basketball, tennis and track locker rooms as well as in the military. I have some very funny stories of what happened and was said there, but I would only tell most of them to certain people, never in a public setting.

    I have usually found that excessive secrecy and fear around such issues are indicative of unaddressed shame and repression.

    Who said it’s about secrecy? Or fear? It’s not a matter of militating against Puritanical distrust of the senses, but rather of recognizing that certain matters are inappropriate for the public forum. Inevitably, when they do appear, it’s in a superficialized version that trivializes the reality. In fact, my chief criticism of the Vat II Church is that it has trivialized Catholic life.

    I think it’s important to note that embarrassment is not just a function of shame but rather primarily of revealing what is intimate. Our deepest, most interior experiences are to be treasured. I don’t really think the great St Teresa of Avila would have been comfortable in public speaking of her interior life: “Our guest speaker tonight is Mother Teresa, who will tell us about her mystical experiences.”

  80. robtbrown says:

    Should be:

    frjim4321 says:
    What was previously only appropriate in private conversation has now been approved for public consumption.

    I don’t know if I agree, Robert. By public discussion do you mean that issues pertaining to sexuality should not be discussed openly?

    It is hard to understand how you could have thought I was referring to that–esp. in light of your locker room remark. I have been in football, basketball, tennis and track locker rooms as well as in the military. I have some very funny stories of what happened and was said there, but I would only tell most of them to certain people, never in a public setting.

  81. Southern Catholic says:

    Those are counter-cultural values of an ardent (in my view, benighted) minority.

    If Catholic’s possess an unenlightened view, in your opinion., then why do you frequent this blog that has the function of promoting this view point?

  82. Southern Catholic says:

    Like lying.

    No, it is more supporting pro-abortion policies.

  83. Southern Catholic says:

    more like*