I was sent a link to something at The Right Scoop: it is a video of Vice President Biden, theologian. You will need an emesis basin or a bag of some sort if you watch it.
There is an annoying ad at the beginning of the video.
Biden: Giving illegals a pathway to citizenship is what Jesus said to do
Democrats will say ANYTHING to get their agenda accomplished, no matter how hypocritical it makes them look. In this instance, it’s Biden quoting Matthew 25:35 at the National Hispanic Prayer Breakfast to suggest that this immigration reform bill is not only the right thing to do, but it is what Jesus expects us to do.
The verse portion comes early so watch as much as you can handle:
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The same man who uses the Bible to say that illegals should be granted citizenship is the same man who wouldn’t defend their right to live before they were born. It’s the same man who would likely let them die if they were born alive from a botched abortion procedure. Yes, this is the man who is using the Bible to manipulate others to do his bidding.
Revolting.
What about Jeremiah 1:5? “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you…”
What about Psalm 139:13? “For thou didst form my inward parts, thou didst knit me together in my mother’s womb.”
And aren’t there biblical verses about the evil of homsexual acts?
UPDATE:
Youtube has it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TIfEuu23vw&feature=player_embedded
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Isn’t there a quote on Christians accepting all earthly authority?
I don’t see how any of the guys square illegal illigration with that.
Funny…my husband and I spent lots of money, time and stress respecting this country’s immigration laws because we thought that was the moral thing to do. If we could have skipped over all that annoying stuff, we’d have the money to file for citizenship. I guess we’re just suckers.
So…according to Biden’s philosophy of religion, if you are alive outside your mother’s womb you have rights, but alive inside your mother’s womb, no rights.
The Dems are just racking up votes for the next four or five elections. But, as soon as the immigrants are third generation, they are just as secularized as the rest, and do contraception and abortion. We may have, and I agree with Buchanan on this, a split nation, but the so-called values will not be Catholic.
Biden, Pelosi and the many other “catholic” politicians who revert to their name only Catholicism are sad an pathetic. The need the Church’s remedial intervention to save their souls. The saints had not fear to reprimand public sinners. Bishops may not want to apply Canon law to them, but they will meet the Lord, who will not fail to give them their “free choice” to reject Him and His Church.
Okay this is hypocritical since he opposes Christian belief on graver matters, but it is true that we should as Catholic Christians support immigration reform and giving people legal status.
I think most Catholics support immigration reform. But we don’t support doing it in such a way as to harm immigrants and citizens alike, which is what Biden is supporting.
I could only get as far as “These are our children…”
It’s six seconds in.
Thank you for the warning Father Z. If I can find a basin (as you suggested) I may give it another try.
I tried watching it, but he makes me so ill I couldn’t do it.
Unborn babies don’t vote. No need to pander to them.
If all the unborn would-be US citizens who were murdered before birth at the hands of an abortionist did live (and vote), our country would not have ROOM for immigrants.
I take comfort in Romans 14:10-12. I don’t think Mr Biden is prepared.
iPadre, it is not only the souls of Biden, Pelosi, and their ilk which are at risk. It is for such grave scandals, I think, that formal excommunication exists as a remedy. Formal and very public excommunication would put an end to these people claiming to be “devout and active Catholics”, and that sort of claim, currently unchallenged by the hierarchy, helps to reaffirm for the millions of others in the laity that their (unformed or malformed) consciences do indeed trump Church teaching.
Shame, bishops, shame.
About 8 or 9 years ago a man got access to the Cardinal’s stately residence during the midnight hours through an unlocked basement door or window. He was caught and the Cardinal’s staff had him arrested. No “welcoming the stranger” there.
Don’t sneak in my cellar window and DEMAND to be treated as a house guest while others politely wait on the door step and ring the bell.
Just as I object to what are “sires” being called “fathers”, I object to trespassers and scoff laws (Visa overstayers) being called “immigrants”. I have too much love and respect for my FATHER who was the son of true IMMIGRANTS to use either term lightly.
True immigration reform is needed because the current system is broken. However what I am concerned about is that this may be just a way for corporations to keep wages down via a flood of cheap labor. I seem to recall dishonesty in wage payment to workers being one of the sins crying out to heaven for vengeance. Putting more lower income people already living in this country into poverty is not social justice.
One has to wonder what the Baptist would say to so called American catholic politicians who blatantly flaunt our Church’s teachings. They wear their dissent with Church teaching as a red badge of courage. Yet, the men God has appointed as Church leaders say nothing and even socialize with the apostates. If we are to seek a continuation of our religious liberty, it would be nice to hear the hierarchy of the USCCB call our wayward brethren out. The scandal they give is public and castigating their transgression publicly seems appropriate.
The hypocrisy of this man discusses me.
Having said that, even a broken watch is right twice a day. The U.S. Immigration system is broken. It is inconceivable and morally corrupt to suggest that this country should, would or could deport 25 million people, most of whom have only ever committed one serious crime in their lives, often at great monetary cost to themselves. That crime, sneaking across the U.S. border.
Further they have been aided and abetted by both political parties, used a political pawns by both political parties and exploited by business large and small.
Yes they should be punished in some way, be it fines and/or going to the back of the line. Yes the border needs to be secured. However 45% of the illegal immigrants in this country did not enter illegally, did not come across the southern border, and would not have been stopped by a secure southern border. They entered the country legally and then overstayed their visas. No amount of border security will solve that problem.
It should be remembered that Immigration laws were primarily put in place to prevent Catholics and Jews from Eastern Europe from immigrating to the United States in the days before WWII. They were and are an anti-Christian response by a country which was built on the backs of its immigrants, who for most of its history were seen as the worthy human capital they are.
If I had my way we’d build a 2000 mile fence with a giant Ellis Island style processing center in the middle of it. Anyone who did not have a criminal record (or a terrorist intel file) would be given an ID card and let through. No welfare, no freebies. No law against NGO’s who want to help. Anyone hires somebody without papers and THEY go to jail. Anyone tries to break OSHA, or DOJ regulations by hiring immigrants at illegal wages or for unsafe conditions THEY go to jail.
It’ll be expensive at first, until the economic benefits of having workers who would rather have a job instead of a community organizer kicks in. We could abolish the IRS to pay for it. That would be a better use for the money anyway/
“The hypocrisy of this man discusses me.” should read: The hypocrisy of this man disgustes me.
Did we not learn our lesson from the healthcare hoax? Always look for the ways they call evil good. Mexicans are a double whammy jammy for Satan as he awaits the millions of unborn Mexicans for the Planned Parenthood woodchipper and millions of votes for a Democrat eternity.
Like most Machiavellian politicians he will use anything to pursue his agenda
Woe to Biden.
And woe to the USCCB who cannot see the immigration Trojan Horse.
If it becomes a Democratic Trajan Horse the Republicans have no one to blame but themselves. This is a population that is mostly still composed of people who believe in the traditional marriage, are fundamentally pro-life and in many cases even Christian (Catholic). If the Republicans drive them into the Democratic political machine by allowing the Democrats to paint themselves as the saviors of immigrants while painting Republicans as only interested in seeing them jailed or deported then they will indeed garner their support (and eventually their votes.) If this happens it will be because the Republicans are more interested in standing up for what’s legal than for what’s right.
Yes Catholics have a duty to obey the law, as long its its a moral law. How moral is a law that seeks to exclude immigrants because they are Hispanic, or economic refugees, or uneducated? How moral is a law whose primary purpose seems to be to leave millions in a state that makes them easy to exploit economically?
What he fails to say is that once you become a “legal” citizen in this country you become government property and will be issued a social slavery card for choosing to work, and, yes, when Biden says your children are our children, he really means it. Your children as well are just so much government property and you will be kindly asked to step aside as government knows what’s best for your children.
I think the illegals for the most part are being used as pawns, but they are not without culpability. They know they’re breaking our laws, they know they’re stealing from our treasury and they know they are lowering our workers salaries and taking the bread out of the mouths of children. What a outrage to the legal immigrant and the American taxpayer. With that said, the reason why they’re being lured into this to country by these evil politicians on both sides of the aisle is to help implement the socialist agenda and change our national consensus, while at the same time being promised free housing, free schooling, free etc…. Sounds like a great deal until they finally realize that nothing is ever free and they’re being lead into the trap that is total government dependency – in other words slavery. I believe this the eventual model that the Ruling Class wants to impose on all of us.
“There is an annoying ad at the beginning of the video.”
Biden is much more annoying than any ad. At least there may be a kernel of truth in what an ad
says.
The very fact that Biden and Charles Shumer (members of the pro-abortion, pro ssm, pro Obamacare Democrat Party) are pushing this amnesty bill and the fact they are giddy about the fact that some Republicans will be voting for it–should tell you there is something seriously wrong with this particular bill.
It is all about future Democrat votes — we will have the policies of this administration and even more mandates similar to the HHH mandate and probably worse for years to come. This does not bode well for the Church and our religious freedom in this country. The IRS situation should be a wakeup call to all.
Not all of the people in this country illegally wish this country, its freedoms and its people well.
My grandparents made the long and uncomfortable trans-oceanic trek to enter this country legally, become citizens and raise a large family without any legal problems. My father was a Canadian who married one of the daughters and he became an American citizen with no legal problems. If it worked for them, and many others like them, why is it not working now?
Typos!
4th line — out of the mouths of OUR Children.
last line — I believe this is the eventual model that the Ruling Class wants to impose on all of us.
I also know a family that is almost worn out by all the legal hoops they must jump through, not to mention the expense. They are lovely people who are a credit to any nation anywhere. I feel so badly for them, and embarrassed that my country is so hostile to people who try to do things the right way and so blind when it comes to those who thumb their noses.
“All of the legal hoops they must jump through…”
Right. The problem with immigration IS still too much government in some places, but 1200 pages of new legislation is not going to fix that.
and no virtually no change in security measures is not going to fix where there is too little government.
This infuriates me. My dad came in the front door. He had to take classes on American History… and promise never to take welfare before he got his citizenship papers.
But now.. just sneak across the border and collect your free stuff.
Our immigration policies aren’t broken.. they just aren’t enforced.
“A brief particular of interest to the faithful: recent in-depth studies by the Pew Charitable Trust indicate that, contrary to the situation decades ago, many Hispanic immigrants today are in fact Protestant or evangelical; moreover, the longer a Catholic Hispanic is in the U.S., the more likely it is that he will leave the Church. More than 80% of Latino evangelicals in the U.S. are former Catholics…”
-Christopher Manion. This is one one of the best articles I’ve read recently on the illegal immigration situation: http://www.crisismagazine.com/2013/the-catholic-bishops-and-immigration-reform
Elizabeth D – we should NOT renounce the RIGHTS we have to make our own just laws and enforce them. The catechism clearly says that immigrants are to obey the laws of the country receiving them. Christ clearly said to render unto Caesar that which is Caesar’s. When farmers cannot tend their farms, when property is destroyed, when the “people doing jobs Americans won’t do” are packing hundreds of pounds of drugs every night, there is a problem, and it is not the presence of immigration laws.
Look at the stats in border states sometime for kidnapping, corpses found, drunk driving fatalities, sexual assaults, etc. For some strange reason, people inclined to break the immigration laws seem to be not so hung up on a lot of other laws, either.
Look at the stats just on border deaths. There were something like 30 people who died trying to get over the Berlin Wall in 28 years — and every one of them died from severe AK-47 poisoning. There are between 150 and 400 people dead in the desert every YEAR, because people won’t discourage the lawlessness. Some of them die from gunshots, usually for losing a drug shipment, but most die from exposure.
We definitely need to do something — we need to ENFORCE THE EXISTING LAWS. We do not need to reward lawlessness, and we do not need to feed the creation of a wage-slave-laborer class that pushes down all wages (unjust wage – another sin crying to heaven for vengeance). We do not need to expand the welfare/socialist state, which, with Marxism as its base, is inherently evil.