An angry Fr. Z’s Trinity Sunday with help from Fr. Rutler

My friend Fr. Rutler, pastor of St. Michael’s in Manhattan, wrote a “pastor’s page” column this week about the same-sex debacle in Ireland.  You don’t want to miss it.

At the time of this writing, it isn’t yet posted on the website linked above, but I’m sure it will be updated soon.  I suggest that you keep checking/clicking until it is posted (spike their stats like they have never seen!).  HERE [UPDATE: the column for the 31st is now posted.]

The column was so good that, before my own sermon on the Most Holy Trinity, I read his column word for word from the pulpit.

Before I read it, I mentioned that I was going to do what St. Jerome accused St. Ambrose of doing: plagiarism.  Jerome despised Ambrose.  We know via Rufinus, that Jerome accused Ambrose of being a jackdaw who clothes himself in another’s showy feathers.  So, today I channeled my inner Ambrose and read Rutler – with full attribution, of course.  First, I told the people that I was angry about the despicable betrayal of God by the Irish people, that slap in God’s face.  I observed that we will be pressured in these USA to follow suit.  Then I started with Rutler’s piece.  Even as I read the first few sentences, I could see jaws dropping.

Rutler starts with this:

The Constitution of Ireland begins: “In the name of the Most Holy Trinity, from Whom is all authority and to Whom, as our final end, all actions both of men and States must be referred, / We, the people of Éire, / Humbly acknowledging all our obligations to our Divine Lord, Jesus Christ . . .” [!]

The landslide vote in Eire for legalizing the fictitious form of marriage between persons of the same sex, in contradiction of all laws natural and divine, unearths the pulsating Druidism that Saint Patrick and his fellow saints defied. The estimated $17 million from pressure groups in the United States is no excuse, for people will only be pressured if they are willing to be pressured. Another dismal fact is that over 90% of the young people influenced to subscribe to this vote were formed in Catholic schools. The vote was less in favor of inversion and more in hostility to a Church whose Jansenism and clericalism had incubated corruption and lassitude. While most of Europe suffers from the deadly sin of indifference, or sloth, Ireland is in adolescent rebellion, virulent and irrational. This was exploited by political interests hostile to Christian civilization, and their propaganda combined legitimate accusations against ecclesial failings with a left-wing, secularist agenda.

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As I said… you don’t want to miss this one.  He hit it out of the park.

Fr. Z kudos to Fr. Rutler.

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27 Responses to An angry Fr. Z’s Trinity Sunday with help from Fr. Rutler

  1. AnthonyJ says:

    Has Pope Francis said anything about the legalization in Ireland of this abomination?

  2. DeGaulle says:

    It is even worse than Fr Rutler describes. I am fairly sure that our ancient Druids would have considered the self-falsifying notion of marriage between people of the same sex as being as ludicrous as any true Christian would. Marriage as being the union of man and woman is a notion that long precedes Christianity. We are entering new territory now. I fear the Gates of Hell have opened and have yet to overcome my shock that it has happened in my own dear island. We have the consolation that they won’t prevail, but the glimpse that has been revealed is terrifying.

  3. benedetta says:

    The last bit about Sinn Fein, and, true, the way it hoodwinked American Catholics into believing its righteousness, quite interesting indeed. Hey, in a democracy, political interests through money down to get what they are after, no shock there. Nor the lace curtain calumny towards one’s fellows of pretentious better than everyone else and therefore entitled, for Catholic Ireland, that’s been at work for a very long time. This is all fine I guess when political interests pressure and buy but at the end of the day what is the situation for young people in their midst? What with all the rampant idealism one would think that by now children would no longer be poor there, would have decent educations, and a chance to not get their brains rotted out by a much celebrated and expensive secular culture filled not with literary elan or forward thinking progressive communitarian dogma but instead the rotting detritus and vast cavities of horrible popular music, television, sports cults, porn, heroin in the junior high schools, unemployment in staggering proportions, with no decent humanism to navigate a course by to substitute for the Faith so unceremoniously rejected for hillbilly leprechaun chic. But for our boomer governance, it has always been thus, it’s all about them, and no one else matters. If Ireland is now so indeed humanitarian and compassionate towards everyone’s human rights and personhood, I for one will expect some genuine and kind solutions brought to bear on its suffering youth, stat, you know, just how that is playing out, like, where I live, where with all the most liberal and humanist stuff one could ever want passed in the blink of an eye, some political powers that be still think that good old fashioned stalking and menacing children a perfectly good way to get what they are after, so much for reason, you know?

  4. Lisieux says:

    And when you’re on Fr Rutler’s home page, scroll down and sign up to receive his weekly column by email. It’s an electric charge every week.

  5. MrTipsNZ says:

    This is sad, but in reality, has been a long time coming. Fr Rutler is quite correct in his comment about returning a bacillus. The USA, Australia, New Zealand and many other nations which were formed immediately prior to the decay of the British empire had a heavy inculturation of Irish missionary zeal. Canada less so, due to the French effect (which is also present to a degree in New Zealand and in more so in Polynesia). This zeal obviously came under fierce attack in the 1900’s and returned home whereby it has slowly infected the Irish way of life. Unfortunately, clerics and laypersons within the missionary Churches in the outposts still clung to the notion of a “Catholic” Ireland, which actually consisted of Foster and Allen and repeated watchings of Darby O’Gill and the Little People, and all the while missed/ignored the horrendous situations in their own diocese’s.

    Only now, in the early morning rising from their own local slumbers, have they realised this seriousness/tragedy of Ireland. It is no longer a bulwark – it hasn’t been for decades. The honour of being a bulwark now belongs to our long, and brutally suffering brothers and sisters in Christ in Syria, Africa and the Asian velts. And they are paying in blood for our unfaithfulness and sins.

    The point of this chastisement is possibly this: tend your own plot: make your own parish, then diocese, then nation, a bulwark. In doing so, support our martyr brothers and sisters in Asia/Africa, but most of all……ride the damn bike.

  6. Supertradmum says:

    Father Rutler is dead on. This decision of the people was a long time coming. But, the same thing will happen here. Years of Catholics anti-intellectualism and spiritual sloth has led most Catholics to a state of unreasonableness so that they cannot stand up in the public square against the ideologies of sin. The fact that most Catholics do not know their own Faith allows an atmosphere of compromise and confusion.

    Good article.

  7. Former Altar Boy says:

    Echoing Supertradmum above, I think Father should have said “over 90% of the young people influenced to…vote were ILL-formed in Catholic schools.”

  8. albizzi says:

    At least in the apostate France there were huge protests against the same sex marriage law before it was voted by the Chambre des députés.
    The socialist government didn’t dare to propose it through a referendum because it feared the french people’s reply would be negative.

  9. donato2 says:

    Pope Francis’s silence is deafening but, at this point, hardly surprising. The key to understanding Pope Francis is that he is a master politician who, far more than any other pope of modern times, is sustained by public opinion. All politicians know that it is political suicide to denounce so-called “gay marriage.” Master politician that he is, Pope Francis is not going to take a stand on a politically unpopular issue for the same reason other politicians almost never do: that’s how you end up losing the game of politics. It is also the reason that I think Pope Francis is the worst pope of modern times. It is a central part of the pope’s job to remind the world of the truth when politicians won’t while the rest of the world is forgetting what the truth is.

  10. asperges says:

    An analysis of Irish behaviour from within or without has defeated many generations and no-one could ever describe the Irish as predictable. Fr Rutler’s comments are as ever incisive, and his phrase that ‘ethnic drollery replaced dogma’ is very true.

    England’s Catholic rebirth from 19th century onwards, after emancipation, owes much to Irish clergy, their devotion, love and work. But their methods were essentially unintellectual, and unquestioning, applied with a fearful rigidity today few would accept. It led to an inability to understand or reason when bad times came. It also stood for the ‘old days’ in a bad sense and no useful defence against the militant aggressive secularism in society of recent years.

    Vat ii reforms were likewise rigidly applied, things previously held sacred mocked and destroyed. That Catholic education utterly failed (as it has in the UK) should be no surprise and was the inevitable product. The ever popular ‘Mrs Brown’ (a coarse comical TV character) seems to have had much more influence especially in this referendum than the voice of the Irish hierarchy.

    In short, without proper leadership in what is now a fiercely secular society, the faithful are now either ignorant of the Faith or just confused and damaged. The papal tag line, ‘who am I to judge’ is seen by the young if not others as a green light for ‘anything goes.’ It must rank as one of the most infelicitous quotations ever to come from a Pontiff.

    And where is the word from the Pope? It was described as a ‘sepulchral silence’ by Rorate website recently. Do hierarchies know what is expected of them now? They are frequently corrected and criticised. No wonder the Irish cardinal sounds confused in his response to the referendum. To whom does he turn for guidance? And more to the point, what response will he get?

  11. benedetta says:

    I think too we should pay attention to that $17 million American. Not chump change that. If you’ve got that kind of cash to throw around, well. It could buy a lot of kids a healthy lunch, or an ipad…or, provide micro capital for start up business in a place in desperate need of decent work for great numbers. The brand of liberalism afflicting not only our country, but all in Western Europe right now says that it’s ok to stalk and harm children and call it “political activism”. So far as I can see, all the liberal and more liberal of the presidential slate, all like the one they are trying to replace, seem fine with that. You just can’t get any more politically rotten or filthy than that. It makes other political corruption look like a run in the sprinklers by comparison. I’ll tell you one thing, you couldn’t pay me enough to subject myself and my family to a churchman, a high school chaplain, pastor, parish council member, avant garde arts guy, newsmen, lit and glitterati, with credentials of involvement in that sort of reek. That’s very far from “humanism” or “humanitarianism” and if liberal is what we want, some people are going to have to start shoveling.

  12. Charles E Flynn says:

    In case anyone is wondering where Cardinal Kasper stands on the Irish vote:

    Cardinal Kasper defends Ireland’s gay ‘marriage’ decision, by Maike Hickson, for Life Site News.

  13. Prayerful says:

    Variously liberal left supporters from Ryanair to most likely Chuck Feeney’s Atlantic Philanthropies spend a pile to get to Ireland anyone eligible to vote and who vote for this false equality. The arch hypocrites of Sinn Fein who oppose abortion in the North of Ireland and support it in the Republic, were likely involved in ripping down and defacing posters. The people doing it would be rent a mob welfare lifers rather than full Sinn Fein members to allow plausible deniability.

    Cardinal Pietro Parolin, the Vatican’s secretary of state did call it a ‘defeat for humanity.’ Pope Francis hardly disapproves of that statement. Hopefully, the Pope and his staff are working on an encyclical to counter something that Obama is aggressively advocating with his specially appointed LGBT ambassador.

    Given how weak and nominal the Catholic ethos and religious education in schools has become, the no vote was surprising strong. The Church in Ireland seemed to be coasting after Vatican II relying on the charisma of Bp Eamon Casey and others, rather than working out how to catechise and attract vocations in the Conciliar age. While there have been exaggerations in regard to institutions, a high portion of them were shameful places, which attracted criticism even decades ago, when something could have been done. The reaction result in the loss of many superficial social Catholics and shook the faithful. We can only hope this culmination of decades of decline in the Faith will shock strong Catholics into doing something, maybe joining the Lay Apostolate of the Legion of Mary. Something must be done as they say.

  14. jschicago says:

    So, Fr. Rutler is blaming the Irish hierarchy for Jansenism and Clericalism in decades past for the present situation? Isn’t one of the Protestant charges against Catholicism in the past being Clericalism? Also, didn’t the Irish priests fight against Jansenism from France?

  15. TNCath says:

    This may be one of the saddest events of my lifetime…so far. As a frequent visitor to Ireland, I find myself never wanting to travel there ever again. Fr. Rutler has succinctly yet effectively summed up the entire situation. As an old Irish priest of happy memory once told me, “When you go to Ireland, look for as much of ‘old Ireland’ as you possibly can because one day it’ll all be gone.” Well, I think it’s finally happened.

  16. Landless Laborer says:

    I think The Great Chastisement is already happening, at least in its initial phase, and this is more evidence of it. The gates are open and the wolves are wreaking havoc. It just seems to me that sooner or later the Church is going to have to realize she’s fighting a losing battle in the physical world and start galvanizing what’s left of her faithful to fight it in the spiritual world.

  17. Kathleen10 says:

    Superb article, nothing less than what we would expect from this amazing priest.
    Ireland is probably still giddy from her disobedience, still giggling from her bad behavior. It is still a joke. But what has happened is deadly serious and she will come to know it. I pity faithful Catholics who are heartbroken about this. It is likely we in the states will know your heartache as well. Some of the Supreme Court Justices who are deciding on whether or not to allow states to have the right to say no to same-sex marriage, have presided over same-sex marriages themselves, so we are likely to be soon heartbroken together. Our tiny consolation will be we didn’t choose it. In the US today, this has been foisted on the people through the current legal tyranny of activist judges, not through the fiat of the people. But give us time, if polls can be trusted, there are many Americans who are also giggling and laughing uproariously on the way to hell. There are many Christians in America, but Catholics are losing their faith. Not having been taught it properly, what little they know has not been found worth caring about.

  18. Bea says:

    Ireland, so sad.

    Many of our earlier priests were sent here to my home parish as “missionary” priests.
    The roles may someday be reversed.

    My husband, of first generation Irish descent was so saddened.
    “St. Patrick”, he often reminds me (of the Irish legend), “will judge the Irish people”.
    I’d hate to be in Irish shoes on judgement day standing before the stalwart Irish Saint.

  19. Max says:

    “Religious beliefs [against abortion and homosexuality] have to be changed,” (Hillary) Clinton insisted. And so the swarm of homosexual pressure groups fly from congregation to congregation blasting Biblical teaching on marriage and dignity of life; and trying to force secular humanism and cultural fads onto the denominations. In those denominations where homosexual agendas have been accepted, their membership is bleeding like a sliced artery. The pews are empty and have not been refilled with homosexuals seeking acceptance. Instead, the activists move on to the next congregation to once again try to force the destruction of truly Biblical identity. Destruction is their goal, not acceptance. This alone is proof enough they are mercenaries for satan’s agenda.

  20. SanSan says:

    Father Rutler is a saint. I subscribe to his Sunday Homilies. His book, “Hints of Heaven” should not be missed…..you think you understand the Parables of Christ…..think again.

  21. SanSan says:

    Wow, Father Z, you actually speak from the pulpit like that! Did anyone hear ANYTHING from the pulpit at their parishes about the loss of souls in Ireland?

  22. Gabriel Syme says:

    Regarding Ireland; I remember a Michael Voris video from a coupla years back, filmed in Ireland.

    He was interviewing young Irish people on the streets of Dublin, people he met at random and who were happy to have a quick chat on camera. He would ask them if they went to mass and, if so, why.

    Many of them did go to mass, but when asked why, not one could give a decent answer. Several were obviously confused by the question and became noticeably embarrassed as they realised this.

    Answers were of the following caliber:

    “Uh, er, ach, you know, that’s what we’ve always done on a Sunday”.

    “I’ve always just gone along with my mum and dad”

    “I don’t know”

    If he tried to press the point, to see if he could find an answer within them, he was just met with embarrassed silence.

    One follow up question was “if your mum and dad (or whoever) weren’t going to mass, would you still go?”

    Answers – “I don’t know” / “Probably not”

    So, sadly the referendum result is no surprise.

  23. benedetta says:

    “In adolescent rebellion…virulent and irrational…” It’s so very true and something that should convict our hearts as Catholics throughout the West, that and the trend towards “indifference and sloth” in its counterpart countries in Europe.

    Despite what one witnesses from secular oriented “youth culture”, now going back many decades, secular child development over the last ten to fifteen years or so, of its own accord, completely unprompted by people like homeschoolers, focus on the family, etc., have recognized what a dismal public health failure to youth has been the secular consumerist regime. Any secular child study expert worth his or her salt nowadays, without ever referencing God, or one’s soul, or spirituality agrees that “adolescent rebellion” is not a natural state to be accepted or encouraged, and that it can be quite easily and naturally prevented by some shockingly old school methods: dinner together as family, turning off devices, and, surprise surprise, open criticism in household or analysis of secular culture, worship together at a regular church or synagogue with marking milestones of development, and, here is the biggie, detachment, firm detachment from, peers as the locus of one’s faculty of discernment, judgment, and values. If it works for the nuclear family to offset health killing consequences of the boomer secular celebration now going on for many decades ushering in nursing home welcome, such as, std just around puberty, heroin habit before entrance to high school, addiction to porn, and so on, then, some re-attachment of Christian Europe to the mercy and compassion and authentic caritas of its family could do an immense amount of good.

  24. The Masked Chicken says:

    Ireland (the southern part) has about 4.58 million people. Of that, 3.2 million are eligible to vote (although, perhaps not registered). Since the voting age is 18, that means that 70% of all of Ireland is over 18 – in other words, there aren’t very many children being born, despite having the highest birth rate in the EU. Sunday Mass attendance dropped from 82% in 1990 (before the youngest voters on the same-sex referendum were born) to 48% in 2011. Part of that might be attributed to the sex scandals of the later 1990’s early 2000’s. The youngest voters were born in 1997 and never knew a Church without the label of scandal being attached to it.

    That being said, anyone who follows Irish politics would not have been shocked by the vote on May 23. Indeed, Wikipedia gives the following background:

    “Capital punishment is constitutionally banned in Ireland, while discrimination based on age, gender, sexual orientation, marital or familial status, religion, race or membership of the travelling community is illegal. The legislation which outlawed homosexual acts was repealed in 1993.[174][175] In 2010, the Dáil and the Seanad passed the Civil Partnership and Certain Rights and Obligations of Cohabitants Act, which recognised civil partnerships between same-sex couples.[176] It permits same-sex couples to register their relationship before a registrar.[177] A Sunday Times poll carried out in March 2011 showed that 73% of people believe that same-sex couples should be allowed to marry, while 60% believe that same-sex couples should be allowed to adopt children.[178] In April 2012, the Constitutional Convention voted overwhelmingly in favour of extending marriage rights to same-sex couples.[179] On 23 May 2015, Ireland became the first country to legalise same-sex marriage by popular vote.[180]”

    This is not a sudden change in the Irish national consciousness. This has been coming for at least 5, if not 22 years. This is nothing new. They have just caved, as most Western states have, to the pressure of anti-discrimination. This is not a Church issue, per se, even though the media are spinning it as such. Simply put, it is a case of a Western psychological pathology – in psychological terms, it is an improper transfer of one valid idea (non-discrimination based on skin color) to an improper venue – human relations, in general. Not to be too blunt, but it is a fundamental error in inductive logic – the fallacy of the converse accident or hasty generalization, where a specific case is taken to be applicable to all cases or even the related fallacy of composition.

    The simple fact is that discrimination is not a sin – not always and until the West realizes that they are being led by irrational forces, they will simply die from cultural entropy. I suppose that the voters who voted for the same-sex marriage proposition thought they were being, what – compassionate, but what they were really being is fed the okey-dokey.

    Do you know what the okey-dokey is? In carnivals in the U. S., barkers and hustlers are taught to feed the mark – the innocent person being fooled, the okey-dokey – the words that they want to hear which are just close enough to the truth to sound plausible. They are being conned, swindled.

    The West is being swindled out of its moral heritage by the okey-dokey, the soft lie, the little whisper. Do you know what the first okey-dokey was? The dictionary says that term was first used in 1932, but its origins are much earlier. The first okey-dokey was:

    “Now the serpent was more subtle than any other wild creature that the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God say, `You shall not eat of any tree of the garden’?”
    And the woman said to the serpent, “We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden; but God said, `You shall not eat of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, neither shall you touch it, lest you die.'”
    But the serpent said to the woman, “You will not die.
    For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”
    So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was to be desired to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate; and she also gave some to her husband, and he ate.”

    The only way to overcome the okey-dokey is with your eyes wide open. Unfortunately, the West is drowsing in its complacency while evil men destroy it. They have been lulled into accepting the illogic that says that tolerance of any man’s opinions is a virtue.

    Man must seek the truth or he is doomed. In Ireland, last month, and in so many countries in the West there has been a “terrible loss of nerve,” to quote Jacob Bronowski for standing up for truth – historical, moral, scientific, cultural truth. They prefer the okey-dokey, the tune of the Pied Piper. Yeah, man, that song was mellow. Sleep my children. You won’t miss the Garden when it is stolen from you for the second time.

    The Chicken

  25. Ben Kenobi says:

    “The point of this chastisement is possibly this: tend your own plot: make your own parish, then diocese, then nation, a bulwark. In doing so, support our martyr brothers and sisters in Asia/Africa, but most of all……ride the damn bike.”

    Great comment! 10/10. Thank you for the encouragement Mr.Tips!

  26. happyCatholic says:

    SanSan,
    My dear pastor, in his quiet manner, after speaking of the Holy Trinity did preach about the same sex “marriage” movement, including how for him to speak from the pulpit about it in the future may lead to lawsuits or worse. He is a holy priest, and I am so blessed to be a parishioner.

  27. Suburbanbanshee says:

    Our priest preached about heresy, and how people get fooled into believing it. He particularly lambasted the heresy of thinking that God is just this nice impersonal force that wants us to be nice and to have fun. He’s a pretty easygoing guy, but I think he’s finally heard enough stupid stuff that he’s starting to get worried.