“The darkness of Satan has entered and spread throughout the Catholic Church, even to its summit.”

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2. Traductora says:

   25 October 2017 at 1:23 PM

   Paul VI is such a mystery. I don’t think he wanted things to turn out the way they did, but he seems to have been powerless – or even unwilling – to stop them.

   I read a couple of days ago that the head of the Italian Bishops’ Conference gushed that Martin Luther was the voice of the Spirit. This is insanity. The people in power are attacking the very Faith and the Church.

   Surprisingly, Cdl Muller came out and rebuked the bishop and said that Martin Luther could in no way be considered to have been carrying out the work of the Lord or speaking with the ‘voice of the Spirit.” It’s one of the best and most direct things I’ve seen Muller say to date. So maybe there’s a little push-back starting at the top? (It was in La Nuova Bussuola.). I think it would make us all feel much better if we saw a more aggressive response to these people, not like poor Paul VI, who wept in private but rarely revealed any opposition in public.
3. ThankyouB16 says:

   25 October 2017 at 4:51 PM

   I have heard this quote as well as the now-famous 1976 Cardinal Wojtyla comment from America (about the battle between Church and Anti-Church).

   Both quotes can be traced, apparently, to newspaper articles, but no one, as far as I know, has ever found the originals.

   In fact, I have looked for the supposed 10/13/77 speech on the Vatican website; not there. I also read Wojtyla’s speech in American in 1976; not there.

   Anyone got a clue about how authentic these quote are?

   The Paul VI “smoke of satan” is authentic, although it is found in a summary of a homily he gave; found on the Vatican Website. These other quotes…I don’t know. I would like to have the comfort of knowing they said these words, but truth first…
4. pjmpjm says:

   25 October 2017 at 5:46 PM

   I think this quote is fake. A journalist friend looked at the archives for this Italian newspaper. No such speech is found. The vatican.va lists an ad limina for this day, given in Latin (!), and it contains no such words.
5. TonyO says:

   25 October 2017 at 7:43 PM

   Paul VI is such a mystery. I don’t think he wanted things to turn out the way they did, but he seems to have been powerless – or even unwilling – to stop them.

   Traductora,

   This has bothered me for decades. If he was cognizant of the problem, and who was promoting the smoke, why didn’t he at least start getting rid of them? To me it’s virtually incomprehensible. I suppose if he suffered from grave malady, like severe depression, maybe he was blocked from being able to act on it. But I haven’t ever heard anyone suggest that.

   And if he knew that the problem was finding its way “to the very summit”, (well, can we suppose he was not accusing his own self?), if he meant the cardinals, then that’s something over which he personally had a great deal of control. And bishops too, if he had wanted to do something about it. Indeed, “succession management” is one of the single most important roles of the chief executive of a long-running organization, once it is up and running. To fail in that is to fail of your job. Popes who ignored the year after year after year of new bishops being offered up for choice to Rome, when they knew that many of these men were not worthy and would make the problem worse – what can be said about such refusal to address the problem? It’s one thing for us to say “oh, the bishops” and not do something about it. It’s quite another for a pope to say it. What the heck?
6. JabbaPapa says:

   26 October 2017 at 11:15 AM

   Here is a Eucharistic Hymn of Saint Thomas Aquinas :

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIrf5PuaC3U

   Satan’s hatred is impotent against the Real Presence.

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