Tag Archives: PRO MULTIS

From the Archive: Priest refuses to use new translation in consecration of Precious Blood. Invalid?

FROM THE ARCHIVE. (Since a couple people have recently asked about this through email.)
From a reader:
If I had to guess, there are probably many priests throughout the US who are refusing to celebrate the Mass according to the new translation.
My … Continue reading

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A noted theologian changes his mind about “pro multis” meaning “for all”

From Sandro Magister’s site Chiesa:
Vatican Diary / The conversion of bishop-theologian Bruno Forte
He was a determined supporter of “for all” in the words of the consecration. But the pope’s letter to the German bishops has changed his mind. Now he … Continue reading

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Waiting for Magyar – UPDATE!

In these five short years, vatican.va has already managed to post Summorum Pontificum in Latin and Hungarian!
But wait!  vatican.va still has nothing on the Holy Father’s Letter to German-speaking bishops about the translation of “pro multis“!
Could we at least have the … Continue reading

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Fr. Lombardi on the Holy Father’s Letter about “pro multis”

I posted about the absence (and then the presence) of the Holy Father’s Letter to German bishops on the vatican.va site.  HERE.
Here is the editorial of the papal spokesman, Fr. Federico Lombardi, SJ, on the site of Vatican Radio (of … Continue reading

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Pope Benedict’s “pro multis” letter to German-speaking bishops now in English. Wherein an HONORED GUEST ranteth.

Here is a follow up to my post about the Holy Father’s letter of instruction to the German speaking bishops about the translation of “pro multis” in the new liturgical books.
An English translation of the Holy Father’s letter is now … Continue reading

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Benedict XVI explains to German bishops what the “pro multis” really says.

The Holy Father has explained to the bishops of German-speaking countries what the prayer really says.
Just as the document Liturgiam authenticam required a revision the English liturgical texts, all the different languages need revision, including German.  You may recall that the Holy … Continue reading

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QUAERITUR: Priest changes “many” to “all” in the consecration.

From a priest:
I was concelebrating a Mass last week (N.O., in English) and the principal celebrant substituted the word ‘all’ for ‘many’ at the consecration. I gather he does this at every Mass he offers. Does that change render the … Continue reading

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QUAERITUR: Priest scandalizes religious ed students by disobedience.

Another form of clerical abuse.
From a reader:
I’m a DRE with an important question. Today at Mass, a visiting priest in the diocese indicated the following during his homily:
1. He is very much opposed to the new, more accurate translation.
2. He has … Continue reading

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QUAERITUR: Priest refuses to use new translation in consecration of Precious Blood. Invalid?

From a reader:
If I had to guess, there are probably many priests throughout the US who are refusing to celebrate the Mass according to the new translation.
My question is, “Is the Mass invalid if a priest uses the old words … Continue reading

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QUAERITUR: Saying “for all” even after the new translation is in force.

From a reader:
I was wondering what the mind of Catholics ought to be toward the validity of Masses which are celebrated after the implementation of the Third Edition of the Roman Missal by certain Priests who may dare to continue … Continue reading

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