2021-23 Synod… “Walking Together”… with?

I sent this out to a few of my incredulous brethren the other day, with the note… “No.  Really.”

The Logo for the Synod (“walking together”) which is coming up.

I think it’s missing something… beyond heterosexuality.


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  1. teomatteo says:

    That yellow swipe thingy? Chaff? A strawman? Children of the corn?

  2. Chrisc says:

    The idea that we ought to listen to disaffected Catholics is good. The idea that we ought to listen to protestants, buddhists and agnostics is good, too, since the bishop is responsible for their souls, even if they don’t step foot in the church.
    The idea that we ought to present their complaints as part of the ‘sensus (in)fidelium’ about God’s commandments is evil and/or imbecilic.
    We have shepherds who mimic the handwringing that Moses is given to. ‘Surely God, you can’t expect people to people to live chastely and to avail themselves to the sacraments’ or ‘certainly you can’t expect people not to fornicate if they are in lurv’ etc. Phooey.

  3. Ann Malley says:

    Someone has applied Charlton Heston’s words about guns to Crayola Crayons.

    But there’s obviously no prying the rainbow colors despite cold, dead hands reaching out to touch someone as we ‘walk’ together.

    …toward the naked one who must be the female counterpart to all manner of surprise!

  4. Dave P. says:

    Holy 80s Flashbacks, Batman!

  5. Lurker 59 says:

    In case people don’t see it, the T is Christ on the cross, the curve (flying dove) the Holy Spirit, and the circle (perfection/simplicity) the Father.

    In case people don’t see it, the picture is garbage and the “artist” should be ashamed.

    In case clergy don’t see it, stop treating the laity as children, stop accompanying them, and do your job; which is to offer the sacraments and get people to heaven.

  6. kurtmasur says:

    Where is Jesus? There is no symbol of the cross at least, nor not even the Virgin Mary. I see that the bishop is just “one of many” to be walking together. They could have placed him at the front, or some other place where it is evident that he is the shepherd, the leader of the flock. Otherwise, it’s just a poster in which a pope or bishop just happens to be present in the crowd during what is supposed to be an otherwise secular event.

  7. hilltop says:

    Not one of those cartoons is wearing cassock.

  8. hilltop says:

    Oh, and the Bishop is yellow.

  9. Venerator Sti Lot says:

    Lurker 59,

    Interesting exegesis – thank you! I was wondering if that whole ‘entity’ was Brother Sun endowed with a sort of Walking Tree body.

    But if the whooshy (fiery shooting star-like?) curve is the Holy Spirit, might not the Tau Tree be the empty Cross with the fairly rainbow colored 15 being “una Chiesa sinodale” – the ‘one synodal Church’ as ‘the Body of Christ’ exiting the shadow of the Cross?

  10. Venerator Sti Lot says:

    Also, I have not compared different magnifications of this, but it seems to me there are a lot of unfortunately (or is that, trollingly?) placed hands – the first two (green and turquoise) figures on the left, the last and antepenultimate (green) figures on the right… and what of the (baseball?-) capped blue figure fourth on the left, also in relation to the third, red figure there? What a (thoroughly avoidable) disaster!

  11. Sportsfan says:

    I was going to guess 2022.

  12. Kathleen10 says:

    I think it’s perfect. It’s a perfect representation for an abstract church. The people are the most real things in the image. You can tell what they are. Where is God? Where is Jesus? Nowhere. But the people you can make out. Perfect for a people-obsessed church. It’s all about the people, because they’re the ones with the mo-nay and the reason the church gets federal mo-nay. My life is so boring. I’m starting to look forward to these freaky things coming out. It’s like analyzing a Rorshach test.
    Stop talking about talking about talking about talking, you Bishops. We gave you ONE job. Do that. All this other blather and blab is useless nothing. It gives us nothing, adds up to nothing, nobody cares, it’s a waste of your and our time.
    Jesus Christ. Our Lady. The Sacraments. The Eucharist. Eternal life. How to live in this stupid world. The rest is junk and we don’t want it or need it.

  13. Charles E Flynn says:

    The image unintentionally brings to mind a reversal of a famous illustration allegedly depicting human evolution, March of Progress.

  14. Fr. Reader says:

    Why do we have almost always so ugly logos for these activities? who is behind these things? Everything is wrong with that design: colours, composition, typography, strokes, lines and curves, and the rest. Perhaps the nephew of a cardinal that is just learning how to use Illustrator spend 20 minutes doing this. Who approved it? Is there anyone out there that really likes this thing?

    And I am not even entering into its theology.
    Is there any married couple in the logo? Or just people…

  15. prayfatima says:

    Teomatteo : That yellow swipe thingy? Chaff? A strawman? Children of the corn?

    Lurker 59: In case people don’t see it, the T is Christ on the cross, the curve (flying dove) the Holy Spirit, and the circle (perfection/simplicity) the Father.

    Thanks for the laughs.

    A peculiar logo for a very peculiar gathering!

  16. Geoffrey says:

    50 years of poorly catechized Catholics being asked for input… what could go wrong?

  17. Kerry says:

    Where’s the ditch?

  18. MarianneF says:

    Kurtmasur- you beat me to it! It would’ve been nice to see the Shepherd leading. Rather, having children at the front, directing the crowd of adults into whatever, is so darn symbolic of where we are in the modern Church -rudderless and without masculinity.

  19. My first impression of the “wheat and sun” in the corner was of the hammer and sickle of the communist regime.

  20. Not says:

    Protestants have no place in the One Holy Apostolic Catholic Church other than becoming converts to the One True Faith. I often say to protestants who want to “speak about the faith and what we share” that what we share is nothing. Their very name is PROTEST. Protest against Catholicism. There has been many great converts over the centuries, men and women of good will searching for Truth. Ever since Vatican II the church has had it backwards.

  21. Not says:

    My wife and I consider Father Z. one of those great converts. We thank god for you.

  22. WVC says:

    If the bishops want to follow the kids . . . then maybe they should get in line behind my 10 year old and 7 year old and walk themselves right on over to the Latin Mass.

  23. OzReader says:

    This swishy logo is on par with the lopsided Crucifix symbols one sees on vestments or for certain Church events. Terrible.

  24. Legisperitus says:

    MarianneF: “And the Children Shall Lead”… arguably the worst episode of Star Trek, but highly appropriate for what appears to be a pilgrimage toward 1969!

    Liturgical Legos: That’s definitely in there, in rough outline…

  25. teomatteo says:

    WVC, “If the bishops want to follow the kids . . .”
    Reminds me of when President Obama said that after getting schooled by his 13 y.o. daughter he was all for QueerMarriage. Imagine that being lead by children.

  26. prayfatima says:

    Gotta add that wheelchair for effect, because our church just loves to help the vulnerable!! Where’s the baby in the womb? Don’t ask. Just walk.

    Where oh where are we walking to? That is the question of the century! Towards a cliff ?
    The Bishop is about to bop the child with his crozier. Eek, unsafe!!

    Oh my, Kathleen 10’s comment is the best. Where is the star that Fr. Z likes to bust out?? You, my friend, deserve one for that gem of a comment!

  27. Venerator Sti Lot says:

    Not writes, “Protestants have no place in the One Holy Apostolic Catholic Church other than becoming converts to the One True Faith. I often say to protestants who want to ‘speak about the faith and what we share’ that what we share is nothing.” Under correction, given the understanding of the Sacrament of Baptism, the matter is more complicated than this. One of the most striking things in this respect to which my attention has been directed is the response of the Holy Office on 18 December 1872 to the Apostolic Vicar of Central Oceania, about the validity of non-Catholic (in this case, Methodist) Baptism, even when the person administrating the Baptism has in the course of it expressed things about Baptism emphatically contradicting Catholic teaching. (See 3100-02 in, for example, the 1957 Denzinger Schönmetzer – Enchiridion Symbolorum – the latest edition I can quickly find accessible online).

  28. Lurker 59 says:

    @Venerator Sti Lot

    Likely it is a composite of two different images — the people walking and the trinitarian image, three if you count the typography. I wouldn’t put too much thought into the juxtaposition.

    The image above is just emblematic of modernistic artistic hubris; insipid, shallow, and filled with vainglory.

    Might I suggest to cleans one’s mind after having to view this travesty, contemplating

    Robert Campin
    The Trinity

  29. Kathleen10 says:

    kurt masur, great observation. The bishop is just one of the mob being led by the sheep. Sometimes sheep don’t know what to do and they run in circles or off a cliff. Guess the shepherd just goes over with them. Why does he have that crook? To try to hang on to the cliff edge as he goes over? They have him at the back of the line because the people have to figure things out and they’ll let him know later what they want. The kid will pass it to the person in the wheelchair and he’ll let the bishop know.

  30. ChrisP says:

    First impression?

    A child’s drawing of the asteroid hitting …….

  31. IaninEngland says:

    …and the Blue Nun, a particularly toothsome brand of Riesling back in the day :)

  32. Gaetano says:

    Nothing conveys “Take us seriously” at these events. Doubly so when they use childish crayon fonts.

    I would never use a bank or law firm with such a logo. The closest would be a daycare center or pediatric.

    But it’s entirely consistent with the immature & unserious nature of what passes for Christianity in the West these days.

    Is it any wonder people don’t take them seriously or that teenagers abandon such faith so easily?

  33. Venerator Sti Lot says:

    Lurker 59,

    Thank you for that – and for some grateful looking around further, to which it stirred me – including (thanks to the Campin catalogue 2002 Wikipedia link) the Antependium des Meßornats des Ordens vom Goldenen Vlies (Retrofrontale, Rücklaken) with the Throne of Mercy flanked by six Old and six New Testament Saints.

    But here in your link, the Church is delightfully represented by the pelican chicks and the lion on the third day breathing on the cubs to wake them to life, and two Saints in niches (I think – but who?: more homework required…).

  34. ex seaxe says:

    I read somewhere that our recent diocesan synod is seen as a model. We did at least have a Chi-Rho in the logo. –

  35. Incensum says:

    Gaetano says:

    “Is it any wonder people don’t take them seriously or that teenagers abandon such faith so easily?”

    The sad part about this reality is that is has been going on for decades now. Someone please stop the ride, I would like to exit. I was disenfranchised with the faith as a teenager, some 20 years ago, wondering why there were so many rules and where the authority came from – classical new age parish. What exactly did the Saints die for? It seemed so cheesy and lacking in substance, despite the draconian rules. None of it made any sense.

    My HS senior religion teacher, solid in Catholic doctrine she was, told me to check out the Indult parish. What I witnessed that day was Truth and Tradition – I shed tears, immediately understanding what inspired Saints. Everything suddenly made sense – long before “Lex orandi, lex credendi, lex vivendi” was in common use. I wanted everyone to witness what I had. I’ve been thrilled at the progress I’ve witnessed in the subsequent years. Things going downhill, it is too late to stop the momentum no matter how they will try. That is my fervent belief. I just hope that when the time comes I can secure my soul a Requiem. I thought that right had been guaranteed, but these recent developments make me question everything.

  36. prayfatima says:

    IaninEngland “…and the Blue Nun, a particularly toothsome brand of Riesling back in the day :)”

    I thought this Blue Nun comment was a joke until we found it actually exists. And “toothsome”, a particularly great word that is not used enough. Thanks for the laughs.

  37. jaykay says:

    prayfatima: nope, no joke. The Liebfraumilch was pretty standard in the UK and Ireland, not then famed for vinuous discernment, back in the 60s and 70s. I remember Valpolicella as well. Along with the Portuguese Mateus Rosé. And Niersteiner, another Rheinland light wine. If you could pronounce it properly you were counted among the sophisticated. And if you could pronounce the Portuguese one with the correct “shh” sound, well… umm, you were probably weird. Or drunk. Sometimes both…

    That said, I later encountered the joys of Portuguese vinho verde. Ahhh…

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  39. Phil B says:

    Well, it’s perfect for a banner!

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