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That quote from Redemptionis Sacramentum and alot within the document resounds with “one step forward, two steps back”. It’s a sad thing when virtually any and every priest has numerous “war stories” of communion-in-the-hand. I or any priest could easily give blow-by-blow accounts of what ranges from the routinely incorrect ways that individuals receive communion (at Sunday and even daily Mass), eg. the “Body Snatchers”, the “poppers”, those who “take Jesus for a walk”. (use your imagination for all of those), and I or any priest could tell the worst of the worst stories from wedding and funeral Masses. Is communion-in-the-hand the sourse of every such sacrilege? No. But it ENABLES the majority of them.
At one parish I was told that it is common to find hosts on Monday morning in the pews, in the missalettes between the pages, and elsewhere.
In the university where I study and work, I suggested the use of communion plates at the weekly campus Mass. The Catholic students were enthusiastic but the idea was killed by the Chaplain. *sigh*
Is communion-in-the-hand the sourse of every such sacrilege? No. But it ENABLES the majority of them.
If there is a risk of profanation, then Holy Communion should not be given in the hand to the faithful.
2 + 2 = 4. QED.
I’m not sure what you mean by “communion plate” — do you mean a paten with a handle on it, held by the server?
It happens in Singapore (where I am residing), where the ‘norm’ of receiving communion is on the hand. I was once denied communion on the tongue and the EMHC said to me, “Your hand, please.”
In the reference article it mentions “the warden”? I am totally unfamiliar with such a term in the Church or at Mass?
In Singapore, it is common practice to have “wardens”, lay people whose tasks are to:
1. usher people to empty seats when they are late
2. take care of the collection bag
3. ensure order during communion
During communion, a warden will usually be stationed near every priest/EMHC.
There is a parish in Florida that has aparish wide evangelization program centered around Perpetual Adoration of the Blessed SacramentIt is a strongly charismatic parish.They have “ministers of hospitality” who stand next to the priests and deacons distributing communion.Their job is to smile at the communicant and to make sure they consume the host.And woe to anyone who takes the host away without consuming it.The ministers of hospitality become very inhospitable.
“I was once denied communion on the tongue and the EMHC said to me, Ã¢â‚¬Å“Your hand, please.Ã¢â‚¬Â
Now that particular EHMC seriously does not even know the instructions regarding the reception of Holy Communion. While this has not happened to me, the very fact that it occurs shows how poor the level of Catechesis is in Singapore. Reception of Holy Communion on the tongue is the norm, via the hand is just the indult. Staying in Singapore myself, its sad to see this situation.
Yes, Fr Fox, that’s what I mean. In many parishes in Singapore, people make do with oval stainless steel plates (without handle).
I attended one of Pope Benedict’s masses at St. Peter’s last year, and they had “wardens,” if that’s what they are called. They stood near each priest and watched to ensure the host was consumed before the person walked away. I suspect that there were too many incidents of abuse with outdoor papal masses, no watching–and they are becoming aware of it after publicized incidents.
By way of explanation, it was the mass for bishops who had died in 2005, and was held in the Holy Spirit end of St. Peter’s, inside.
Holy Spirit window end, that is. I cannot see my posts before I send them. I’m sorry.
Wardens and stainless steel communion plates! What next?
My former parish priest saw a woman take a consecrated Host and pop it into her purse and walk out the door! He tapped an altar boy on the shoulder (in those days there were boys, you see), “Go after that woman and get that back!” The server scurried off in pursuit and soon reappeared in triumph with the Host.
Tsk! Tsk! And they wonder why the ranks of the Catholic faithful are thinning when martinet priests treat them in such peremptory fashion! Good grief, whatever happened to the old rule of “love and do what you will”?
After all, Jesus just walked about making blind men walk and cripples see and generally doing good, right?
Dear Jeff, re stainless steel communion plates.
while far from the ideal of having it gold-plated,
I’d like to think that the intentions are good,
and that it does its job of catching a falling host and particles and that
it’s better than nothing, compared to those parishes here who don’t have
any plates at all. Fr Z and Fr Fox, any comment?
I’m disappointed at my idea being killed. Our actions reflect our beliefs.
If that’s the Body Of Christ we’re talking about, its only logical that we
take reasonable precautions to prevent it being profaned. sighs.
Our actions reflect our beliefs. If thatÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s the Body Of Christ weÃ¢â‚¬â„¢re talking about, its only logical that we take reasonable precautions to prevent it being profaned.
How true! Not being a priest, I sometimes wonder how priests and (especially) pastors can (apparently) feel no obligation to take those “reasonable precautions”, and instead are willing to go along to get along.
Here, in MÃƒÂ©xico. Communion in tongue and use of patens are the norm in almost 99% of the masses. Thanks God!