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ASK FATHER: John 8:55

From a reader…

QUAERITUR:

Question re Passion Sunday gospel Latin

Message:
Would you please translate this passage from Sunday’s gospel with all
the nuances of plurals and verb tenses translated into English – even
clunky English? I am curious why Jesus seems to be addressing a group
and then seems to narrow to the singular ‘mendax.’

et non cognovistis eum: ego autem novi eum. Et si dixero quia non scio
eum, ero similis vobis, mendax. Sed scio eum, et sermonem ejus servo.

Even a private answer later would be appreciated. I realize it is an
extraordinarily busy season for you.

The Gospel for Passion Sunday in the Vetus Ordo is from John 8:46-59.

This pericope (a cutting of Scripture for liturgical use) comes at the end of an increasingly hostile dispute between Jesus and certain Jews in the Temple precincts during the days of the Feast of Tabernacles. The broader setting runs from John 7 into John 8. Jesus has gone up to Jerusalem, taught publicly, and provoked division. Some hear Him gladly, some are puzzled, and others harden into open opposition. Since Laetare Sunday the Church, focusing on clashes between Jesus and the authorities in John, is setting the liturgical stage for the Passion. The immediate context, earlier in John 8, after the towering golden lamps in the Temple are extinguished, Jesus says, “I am the light of the world”. He disputes with the Pharisees. Then, in 8:31-47, He addresses Jews who had at least outwardly “believed” in Him. He tells them that true disciples abide in His word, and that the truth will make them free. They answer defensively by appealing to their descent from Abraham. Jesus then distinguishes between physical descent from Abraham and spiritual sonship. If they were truly Abraham’s children, they would do the works of Abraham, above all receiving God’s messenger. Instead, they seek to kill Him. The argument sharpens into the severe language about their not hearing God because they are not “of God.” Finally, when the Jews object that Jesus is not yet 50 years old and therefore He could not have seen Abraham, Jesus says: “Before Abraham was, I AM” (John 8:58), which is a divinity claim. They take up stones to kill Him there in the Temple precincts where it was legal for them to do so under the Romans.

As for that passage, John 8:55, the RSV says:

55 But you have not known him; I know him. If I said, I do not know him, I should be a liar (mendax) like you; but I do know him and I keep his word.

That phrase “If I said…” is a compression of “if I were to say (but I am not saying it…)”.

Since the subject is ego that mendax is singular.

The KJV spells out the conditional a bit more clearly.

55 Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying.

Or, “if I were to say X, then I would be a liar (but I haven’t said X and, therefore, I am not a liar”.   The protasis is “if I were to say X” and the apodosis is “I shall/would be a liar”. The Greek has Christ say in the protosis, “εἴπω… eipo”, which is a 1st person singular 2nd aorist active subjunctive. This is followed in the apodosis by ἔσομαι … esomai, which is a 1st person singular future indicative.   It is a kind of hypothetical future supposition.

It is also an example of the use of reductio ad absurdum, since it is unthinkable that Christ would say something false.

Theologically, John 8:55 shows that the knowledge of God is Christological: the Father cannot be rightly known apart from the Son. Morally, it shows that truth requires confession even when confession provokes hostility. Spiritually, it warns against the illusion that religious speech by itself amounts to communion with God. Christ is not only exposing His opponents, but he is revealing the pattern of holiness. A holy person does not invent a private idea of God, nor adjust the truth for safety. He receives, keeps, and confesses outwardly what God has given. Christ does this perfectly because He is the Son by nature. We, however, only do it by grace and only when we remain in Him.

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I love this story and it makes me sad

This should be the model.  This is what the Vatican seems to be determined to destroy.

Moreover, there are older women with vocations, like S Francesca Romana, who have so much to give.

From CWR

106-year-old nun continues serving in the cloister and sharing the Gospel on YouTube

She went into religious life at 70 after her mother died.  Since, she’s been taking care of elderly sisters (!) and using Youtube.

The Perpetual Adorers of the Blessed Sacrament are a contemplative, cloistered order of women whose life is centered on the continuous adoration of Jesus Christ in the Eucharist.

This is what the powers that be in the Vatican controlling religious life want to destroy.

Correct me if I am wrong, please.

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LENTCAzT 2026 – 33: 1st Passion Sunday (5th Lent) – “Christ entered once into the Holies…”

A 5 minute daily podcast to help you in your Lenten discipline.

We hear about St. Peter’s in the Vatican, the Roman Station. The little chapel on the hill where I was ordained a priest. Fr. Troadec takes us into the heart of the Passion.

Yesterday’s podcast – HERE

The wonderful nuns of Gower Abbey, the Benedictines of Mary, Queen of Apostles, have a  disc and digital download:

Tenebrae at Ephesus

US HERE – UK HERE

These are the RESPONSORIES of Tenebrae for all three days of the Triduum.  They are, arguably, the most beautiful chants of the entire liturgical year.

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WDTPRS – 5th Sunday of Lent: The Church, liturgically dying

Traditionally this upcoming Sunday is called First Passion Sunday or First Sunday of the Passion.  “Passiontide” begins.

It is also known as Iudica Sunday, from the first word of the Introit of Mass (from Ps 42/41), and sometimes Repus (from repositus analogous to absconditus, “hidden”) because crosses and other images in churches are to be veiled.  From today, in the Extraordinary Form the “Iudica” psalm is no longer said during the prayers at the foot of the altar and the Gloria Patri at the end of certain prayers is not said.

From today, traditionally we cover or veil images in our churches.

Veils are important.  Our liturgical worship unveils mysteries.  Things cannot be unveiled if they were not previously veiled.   That might seem obvious, but it really isn’t, which is proven in many places by a crass liturgical style and the mania of lowering everything to the lowest common denominator and then shoving it down people’s throats.

This pruning of our liturgy during Lent by the hiding of images in Passiontide symbolizes how Holy Church is undergoing liturgical death.  In Passiontide, our liturgical dying speeds up.

Today’s Collect, new to the Novus Ordo Missale Romanum, comes originally from the Mozarabic Rite.tin

Quaesumus, Domine Deus noster, ut in illa caritate, qua Filius tuus diligens mundum morti se tradidit, inveniamur ipsi, te opitulante, alacriter ambulantes.

Opitulor, a deponent verb, means, “to bring aid; to help, aid, assist, succor.”

LITERAL VERSION:

O Lord our God, we beg that,  You assisting us, we ourselves may be found walking swiftly in that selfsame sacrificial love by which Your Son, loving the world, handed Himself over to death.

In some respects our Lenten Collects are similar to those of Advent.  There are images of motion, of pilgrimage.  We are moving toward a great feast of the Church but we are more importantly moving definitely toward the mysteries they make present to us.

Taking a page from St. Augustine of Hippo (+430), we the baptized who are the Body of the Mystical Person of Christ, the Church, are on a journey with the Lord, the Head of the Church, toward Jerusalem: the Jerusalem of our own passion and the new Jerusalem of our Resurrection.  Christ made this journey so that we could make it and be saved in it.

OBSOLETE ICEL (1973):

Father, help us to be like Christ your Son, who loved the world and died for our salvation. Inspire us by his example, who lives and reigns….

In the bad old days, ICEL regularly reduced phrases like Domine Deus noster to the stark “Father”. The translators apparently thought we were too dense to figure out which prayers were addressed to the First Person of the Trinity.

The obsolete ICEL versions also relied heavily on the catch-all word “help”, as in the quintessential parody of an obsolete ICEL prayer:

“Father, you are so nice.  Help us to be nice like you.”

I used the word “assisting” in my literal version (above), though I could have accurately used “helping”.  We should make distinctions about how ICEL used “help” it in the old versions.

God “helps” us.  No question. What we must avoid (and the obsolete ICEL prayers did NOT), is the suggestion that we can do what we are praying for on our own, but, it could be helpful if God would give us a hand now and then.  That attitude is redolent of the ancient heresy Pelagianism.

Pelagianism, fended off in the 4th and 5th centuries especially by St Augustine, is the false notion that Original Sin did not wound human nature and that our will is still capable of choosing good and salvation without the help of God’s grace. Thus, our first parents “set a bad example” for humanity to follow. Adam’s sin did not have the other consequences imputed to Original Sin (wounding of the intellect and will, appetites, etc.). For Pelagians, Jesus sets the good example which counteracts Adam’s bad example. We can, on our own, choose to live by the help of Jesus’ perfect example.  For Pelagians, we humans retain full control and responsibility for our own salvation.

Now read the obsolete ICEL version again.

Keep this in mind if you meet someone who is still stirring discontent about the new, corrected translation.  The new translation, while not stylistically perfect, is theologically less dodgy than the obsolete translation.  The Latin original is even better.

CURRENT ICEL (2011):

By your help, we beseech you, Lord our God, may we walk eagerly in that same charity with which, out of love for the world, your Son handed himself over to death.

“Help” here is acceptable because we go on to pray about being “in” Christ’s charity, sacrificial love.

In our liturgical worship the one, whole Mystical Christ is on a Lenten journey.  Each year during Lent, Christ, in us, travels that road of the Passion and we, in Him, travel the road marked out by Holy Mother Church and her duly ordained shepherds.  We must unite ourselves in heart, mind and will with the mysteries expressed in the liturgy.

And it came to pass, when the days of his assumption were accomplishing, that he steadfastly set his face to go to Jerusalem. (Luke 9:51)

Our passion, our road to Jerusalem, is also found in our examination of conscience and good confessions, our self-denial and works of mercy.

Our Lenten discipline continues for another fortnight.  Make your well-prepared and thorough sacramental confession.

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LENTCAzT 2026 – 32: Saturday 4th Week in Lent – Approaching Passiontide

A 5 minute daily podcast to help you in your Lenten discipline.

We hear about San Nicola in Carcere, the Roman Station. A church dear to me, as I ordained here to the diaconate.  Fr Troadec takes us into Passiontide.

Yesterday’s podcast – HERE

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LENTCAzT 2026 – 31: Friday 4th Week in Lent – The 3rd Station

A 5 minute daily podcast to help you in your Lenten discipline.

We hear about Sant’Eusebio, the Roman Station.  Joseph Ratzinger on the 3rd Station of the Way of the Cross of the Lord.

Yesterday’s podcast – HERE

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Ite ad Ioseph… Go to Joseph!

Try to wrap your head around the paradox in the vocation of St. Joseph.

Firstly, he was a relatively poor craftsman, a tekton, which in Greek is “builder” which can include “carpenter”.

However, consider the implications of the genealogy at the beginning of the Gospel of Matthew. Joseph was also the true heir to the Davidic throne, being descended from David’s son Solomon.  Mary was descended from David’s son Nathan.

We don’t have in Scripture a single word spoken by him.  However, we know that it was his role to name Our Lord, so for sure He at the very least spoke the word “Jesus”.

Hidden vocation and hidden thought.

The fine scripture scholar Brandt Pitre has a recording of talks he did on St. Joseph which I highly recommend: HERE.

St. Joseph is a mighty intercessor.  I’ve been blessed several times by his help in times of real need and stress.  I have zero doubt that he was the one who intervened, so concretely that it’s amusing.

The Great Roman sent a couple of photos from the celebrations for St. Joseph.

There are Bignè di San Giuseppe “Frittelaro” and fritelle.  As the Romans tell it, to help support the Holy Family St. Joseph supplemented his income by selling fried pastries.

And there is a tradition of trying to climb a greased pole with has goodies at the top.

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LENTCAzT 2026 – 30: Thursday 4th Week in Lent – St. Joseph

A 5 minute daily podcast to help you in your Lenten discipline.

We hear about Santi Silvestro e Martino, the Roman Station.  St. Joseph, true king of the Jews.

Yesterday’s podcast – HERE

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In the ancient Roman Church today, Wednesday “in mediana” was a big day for catechumens.

In the ancient Roman Church today was a big day for catechumens.

Last Sunday, Laetare, was “midpoint” Sunday because before Lent was lengthened, it was the midpoint before Easter. Hence, Wednesday is called “in mediana” and the Roman Station is St. Paul’s outside-outside-the-walls “in aperitione aurium… for the opening of the ears”. St. Paul is, of course, the model for catechumens because of his own conversion.

Today the catechumens underwent the ceremony of the “opening of ears” echoing Christ’s healing of the deaf man. With solemn rites the Roman Pontiff explained to the catechumens for the first time the Creed, the Lord’s Prayer and the beginning of the four Gospels. So their ears were opened to hear about eternal life.

After the Collect the deacon invited the catechumens to come into the basilica for the aperitio aurium. Their godparents signed them with the Cross. And exorcists laid hands on them. There were then four lengthy exorcisms, the last done by a priest. The first three attack the devil directly. The fourth is address to God. For this fourth, the priests trace the Cross on their foreheads and pray:

O Lord most holy, Father almighty, eternal God, the author of light and truth, I beseech thy everlasting and just mercy on behalf of these thy servants and handmaids, that thou wouldst vouchsafe to enlighten them with the light of thy knowledge: cleanse and sanctify them; give them true wisdom; that being made worthy to receive the grace of thy baptism, they may persevere in firm hope, righteous designs, and holy doctrine.

This was followed by various readings and chants after which deacons brought out the Gospels, which were explained along with the symbolism of the four beasts. Then they were taught the Creed which was to be learned by heart and not written down. They were asked what language they needed, Greek or Latin. They started with the Greek speakers and moved to Latin. Here is a sample from the old Ordines Romani:

Priest (addressing the Byzantine candidates) : ” Dearly beloved sons, you have heard the Creed in Greek; now listen to it in Latin.”
The acolyte then presented the Latin catechumens.
Priest: ” In which language do they confess our Lord Jesus Christ ?”
Acolyte: ” In Latin.”
Priest: ” Declare then their faith which they profess.”
The acolyte then recited the Creed in Latin. ” I believe,” etc.
Priest: ” This, dearly beloved, is the summary of our faith. This is the text of the Creed, composed not by skill of human language, but ordained by God. No man can plead that he is incapable of understanding or of realizing these things. Herein we declare the unity, and the equality in power, of the Father and of the Son ; here we show that the only-begotten Son of God after the flesh was born of the Virgin Mary and of the Holy Ghost, and that he was crucified and buried and that he rose again the third day. We proclaim his ascension into heaven and assert that he sits at the right hand of the Father in majesty, from whence he shall come one day to judge the living and the dead. In this our Creed we confess the same undivided Divinity in the Holy Ghost as in the Father and the Son, and in it we teach the divine Mission of the Church, the remission of sins and the resurrection of the body. ” Therefore, 0 beloved sons, from being the children of Adam you are now to be remade in the likeness of the new man—that is, Jesus Christ; from being carnal you are to become spiritual; from earthly you are to be heavenly. With firm and unshaken faith you truly believe that, as Christ rose from the dead, so also we shall rise again, for that which is done in the head must be done also in the members. ” Indeed, the very sacrament of baptism which you are preparing to receive expresses this hope by its rites, for in it is foreshadowed in a measure both death and resurrection. The old man is cast aside, and the new man arises; the sinner goes down into the water and comes forth from it justified. He who led us to death is rejected, and he who brought us back to life is welcomed. It is through him that you are made sons of God, begotten, not by the flesh, but by the power of the Holy Ghost. ” Impress then in such a manner upon your hearts this brief but comprehensive profession of faith that you may be able to strengthen yourselves by its protection in whatever dangers may befall you. The true soldiers of Jesus Christ always avail themselves of this invincible weapon against all the snares of the enemy. May the devil, who never ceases to tempt us, find you always armed with this holy symbol, so that, having vanquished the foe whom you now renounce, you may be able by the divine assistance of him whom you con-fess to keep the grace of God incorrupt and perfect unto the end. Thus may you arrive at the glory of the resurrection through him by whose mercy you obtain the remission of your sins. ” You have listened, dearly beloved, to the symbol of the Catholic faith; and when you now go hence, learn it by heart without altering a syllable of it. The mercy of God can do all things; may it lead you thirsting to the faith and to baptism, so that we who teach you these divine mysteries, and you also who listen to them, may together reach the kingdom of heaven. Through the same Jesus Christ our Lord,” etc. Deacon: ” Be silent and listen attentively.”
Then there probably followed a lesson from the Gospel, containing the text of the Lord’s Prayer.

The Lord’s prayer was explained phrase by phrase.

After this, before the Eucharistic part of the Mass began, the catechumens were dismissed.

You can see how there are echoes of these rites in today’s rites of Baptism, especially in the traditional form.

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