ASK FATHER: Isn’t the priest supposed to genuflect after the elevation?

From a reader…

QUAERITUR:

Has the rubric requiring priests to genuflect after showing the Eucharistic Species to the people been altered? Did someone get an indult or something so that bowing is now legitimate? I wonder because at our local parish the priests I have seen celebrating Mass are now bowing, one of them very profoundly (he is not old nor infirm).

What is going on? Is this widespread now? (Haven’t been to N.O. Mass elsewhere in quite a while.

No, the rubrics have not changed.  In the Novus Ordo, after the elevation the priest is to genuflect, not bow.

We are in the Latin Church, not one of the Eastern Churches.

Of course, if the priest has a bum knee or some other problem, and genuflecting isn’t possible, that’s another matter.  But that’s not the case for most priests.

It seems to me that this mania of standing, rather than kneeling or genuflecting, when in the presence of Christ in the Blessed Sacrament boils down to plain old willful pride.

 

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ASK FATHER: Things are bad in the liberal Catholic Church. Can I become Orthodox?

From a reader…

QUAERITUR:

I’ve tried for many years to stay in the church but simply things get worse here, with the impositions of liberal catholics and bishops who prefer a round of applause rather than defend our faith. I have to ask you father:

under those circumstances is valid to leave the catholic church and embrace the orthodox faith; or its just another apostasy case with a fancy excuse.

It sounds like a fancy excuse to me.  But let’s make some distinctions.

It’s not quite apostasy.  Apostasy requires the rejection of the Christian faith.  However, it certainly is schism, and it is unwarranted.

“Things are bad in the Church” is a statement that could be made by a person today, or a Catholic dealing with Communist infiltration into the Church in 1950’s Poland, or someone with a Modernist pastor in Antwerp in 1910, or someone struggling against a Gallican pastor in 19th century France, or a Catholic in Germany or England during the time of the Reformation, or a peasant in Italy in the 14th century with an absentee bishop unwilling to discipline a corrupt pastor, or a 10th century priest in Rome dealing with murderous and moral bankrupt popes, or an 8th century artist with an iconoclast pastor, or a 4th century Catholic with an Arian bishop, or a 1st century apostle dealing with an unruly Corinthian congregation.

The answer is not, nor has it ever been, to break away from the Church.

The answer is to become more holy.

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ASK FATHER: When the ‘sign of peace’ is forced on you

From a reader…

QUAERITUR:

My husband and I were at a local novus ordo this past Sunday because of weather and illness we were not able to travel to our regular EF Mass.
During the sign of peace we keep our hands folded and heads down in contemplation/prayer not wishing to participate in the circus atmosphere during the sign of peace. The woman in front of us was making the rounds…the isle in front, the people in her isle etc.
When she got to us, instead of leaving us alone she had to lean towards us and say “peace of the Lord be with you” . I nodded my head in acknowledgement..never looking up. I guess this offended her because after Mass, when we were offering our thanksgiving…she came up to us again and made a comment about how she commended our reverence during Mass. I know the sign of peace is an option at the discretion of the Priest. Is it required that one participate in the sign of peace at a novus ordo?

In the General Institution of the Roman Missal [GIRM], and the rubrics of the Mass itself, it is clear that the exchange of the sign of peace is an option.

The rubrics state that, after the priest turns to the people and extends the greeting of peace, “Then, if appropriate, the deacon or the priest adds: ‘Let us offer each other the sign of peace.'” So this ritual is only to be done “if appropriate.”

When it is deemed appropriate, the rubrics go on to say, “All offer one another a sign, in keeping with local custom, that expresses peace, communion, and charity.”

That sign is not defined, though the American custom seems to be settling in as a handshake and a brief statement “peace be with you”.  In Hong Kong, people bow.

If the rite itself is optional, participation in that rite is optional as well.

It may certainly lead to some awkward moments, but we all have awkward moments.

In those cases when an unwanted sign of peace is being thrust upon one, Miss Manners might suggest to keep one’s hands tightly folded and nod in the direction of the “paxifer”.

That should be sufficient participation.

Meanwhile, let’s see that old POLL!

3rd ROUND: The congregation's "sign of peace" during (Novus Ordo) Mass

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ASK FATHER: Do I sin if I don’t stand while the tabernacle is open?

From a reader:

Today at mass, our priest told the congregation that the archbishop wanted to emphasize that the people should remain standing after communion until the tabernacle is closed. This is to emphasize the unity of the people. If I choose to kneel after communion, in violation of the archbishop’s instructions, does this disobedience constitute a sin? My pastor says yes.

I don’t think so. Of course a great deal depends on your attitude. If, while you kneel there, you are thinking about what a jerk the priest is, or how irreverent the people around you are, then you’ve gone down the wrong path.

Meanwhile, I don’t get the obsession to have everyone doing exactly the same thing. Moreover, if the imposers were to think this through for a few seconds, they would realize that it has for a very long time been customary for everyone to kneel until the tabernacle is closed. If solidarity is the aim, why not have some solidarity with our forbears who built our churches and handed the Faith down to us?

We need a lot more kneeling in the presence of God.

Who do we think we are?

UPDATE

It seems that more than one person has this question in mind.

From a reader…

QUAERITUR:

Before mass (OF) this morning, our priest spoke about “posture”

during mass. He referenced a decree by the former archbishop calling for everyone to stand at the Agnus Dei so that we can stand united. It is the practice of some (including me and the missus) to kneel at the Agnus Dei. we were also instructed to not kneel after reception of the Eucharist until the priest and deposited any unconsumed hosts into the tabernacle. We have been at other parishes in other dioceses where kneeling at the Agnus Dei is the practice. My hand missal (Midwest Theological Forum) calls for kneeling the Agnus Dei. Is there an historical answer to this?

For the most of the Church’s history, there were few, if any, rubrics governing the posture of the laity at Mass. The whole notion of having to stand or sit or kneel or bow in a united fashion, to symbolize our unity, is something rather new. Certain customs developed over the centuries, based on the sensus fidelium. We stood for the proclamation of the Gospel, for example, and when pews came into common use, most people sat for the homily.

For the most of our history, however, people stood in the Church for the entirety of the Mass, or they knelt on the floor out of devotion. Some probably milled around, visiting devotional shrines, or attended to unruly children by taking them into the vestibule.

The obsession with telling the laity precisely what they should be doing at any particular point in the liturgy is quite recent.

“Genuflect on only one knee when the Blessed Sacrament is exposed!”

“Don’t make the sign of the cross at the prayer after the Confiteor!”

“Bow to the altar as a symbol of Christ, but don’t genuflect to Christ Himself in the tabernacle!”

These are ridiculous novelties dreamed up by “experts” who are also perhaps control freaks.

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The beheadings continue. What will be the response of civilization?

ISIS LibyaThe beheadings continue. What will be the response of civilization?

“Rome” is a target for ISIS. What that means, we aren’t sure. It seems to be code for “Christians”, the lands which once comprised Christendom. It also probably means Rome itself.

From the Catholic Herald:

After beheading Coptic Christians, Islamists say they will ‘conquer Rome’ next

Islamist militants claiming loyalty to ISIS have released a video appearing to show the beheading of 21 Coptic Christians who were taken hostage in Libya several weeks ago.

The video shows men apparently being beheaded after being forced to kneel next to the Mediterranean Sea. A militant says they are sending a message “from the south of Rome”. At the end of the footage the same English-speaking fighter raises his knife to the water and says ISIS would “conquer Rome”.

This morning Egypt and the Libyan government said they had launched air strikes in retaliation against Islamic State targets.

Egypt said the strikes were intended “to avenge the bloodshed and to seek retribution from the killers”, adding: “Let those far and near know that Egyptians have a shield that protects them.” Most of the victims are believed to be Egyptian.

Bishop Angaelos, leader of the Coptic Orthodox church in Britain, said the massacre showed “not only a disregard for life but a gross misunderstanding of its sanctity and equal value in every person”.

He said his prayers were with the victims’ families and also with the militants who carried out the atrocity. “We pray for an end to the dehumanisation of captives who become mere commodities to be bartered, traded and negotiated with,” the bishop said.

In the video released by the militants, an Islamist says in English: “All crusaders: safety for you will be only wishes, especially if you are fighting us all together. Therefore we will fight you all together… The sea you have hidden Sheikh Usama Bin Laden’s body in, we swear to Allah we will mix it with your blood.”

I am reading right now The Closing of the Muslim Mind: How Intellectual Suicide Created the Modern Islamist Crisis by Robert R. Reilly, the same guy who wrote the must read Making Gay Okay: How Rationalizing Homosexual Behavior Is Changing Everything.

There was once a thriving Muslim, Islamic intellectual tradition.  Then it was simply snuffed out.  What happened?  And does what happened explain something of what is going on today?

Here are a couple passages from the book.  I looked in the body of the book to find some pithy moments, but I found that the book is so closely argued that you need, in almost every instance, the previous paragraph as well.  So, here is something from the forward:

There are two fundamental ways to close the mind. One is to deny reason’s capability of knowing anything. The other is to dismiss reality as unknowable. Reason cannot know, or there is nothing to be known. Either approach suffices in making reality irrelevant. In Sunni Islam, elements of both were employed in the Ash‘arite school. As a consequence, a fissure opened between man’s reason and reality—and, most importantly, between man’s reason and God. The fatal disconnect between the Creator and the mind of his creature is the source of Sunni Islam’s most profound woes. This bifurcation, located not in the Qur’an but in early Islamic theology, ultimately led to the closing of the Muslim mind.

[…]

The closure of the Muslim mind has created the crisis of which modern Islamist terrorism is only one manifestation. The problem is much broader and deeper. It enfolds Islam’s loss of science and of the prospect of indigenously developing democratic constitutional government. It is the key to unlocking such puzzles as why the Arab world stands near the bottom of every measure of human development; why scientific inquiry is nearly moribund in the Islamic world; why Spain translates more books in a single year than the entire Arab world has in the past thousand years; why some people in Saudi Arabia still refuse to believe man has been to the moon; and why some Muslim media present natural disasters like Hurricane Katrina as God’s direct retribution. Without understanding this story, we cannot grasp what is taking place in the Islamic world today, or the potential paths to recovery—paths many Muslims are pointing to with their rejection of the idea of God that produced this crisis in the first place. The closing of the Muslim mind is the direct if somewhat distant antecedent of today’s radical Islamist ideology, and this ideology cannot be understood without divining its roots in that closing. The ideas animating terrorist acts from September 11, to the bombings in London, Madrid, and Mumbai, to the attempted airline bombing in Detroit on Christmas 2009, and beyond have been loudly proclaimed by their perpetrators and their many sympathizers in every form of media. We know what they think; they tell us every day. But questions arise concerning the provenance of their ideas, which they claim are Islamic. Are they something new or a resurgence of something from the past? How much of this is Islam and how much is Islamism? Is Islamism a deformation of Islam? If so, in what way and from where has it come? And why is Islam susceptible to this kind of deformation? The latter part of the book will address these questions.

[…]

Note the term “Islamism”.

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ASK FATHER: Hope for heaven for non-Catholic relatives

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From a reader…

QUAERITUR:

When I converted at Easter 2001 from an Baptist background it seemed that the Catechism of the Catholic Church implied that there was hope for Protestant salvation. Now that I have been drawn to the Traditional Latin Mass it seems that older documents did not teach that.
Obviously I am concerned for my family, but also explaining a funeral for a family friend to my daughter. It is sure to be an upbeat affair that brushes off that she was a non-practicing Baptist, divorced from a non-practicing Catholic and remarried within a week of her death from breast cancer. I guess I am wondering if Catholic teaching provides any hope to this situation.

We live in a time where the reality of hell is often either ignored or flatly denied. Our society – and our pulpits (both Catholic and Protestant) have become places where Universalism (the teaching that everyone goes to heaven) reigns. It is seen as “pastoral” to comfort the grieving by telling them that their deceased loved one is in paradise, and only a cruel or heartless preacher would dare to remind people that the dead need our prayers.  And God forbid that you might raise the specter of Hell as a possible outcome of a life lived in defiance of God’s commandments.

Hell, friends, is real.  It is possible to wind up there.

Church teaching has not changed. The Church still teaches, and has consistently taught, that the sure path to salvation is found in the Church that Christ Himself founded.  One stays on that path by being humbly obedient to the authority of that same Church.

Those who place themselves outside of the authority of the Church do not have that surety of being on the right path.

Want to avoid Hell?  Stick close to the Catholic Church, frequent the sacraments, believe her teachings, practice works of mercy, and reform your life.

I’m just trying to do my job here, people: Keep has many people out of Hell as possible.

The Church also teaches that God is both just and merciful. God has revealed this about Himself. If God were simply just, then all talk of heaven would be futile because not a single one of us deserves heaven. Nothing we can do can earn ourselves a place in heaven. No matter how good we are, or how many good works we do, or how well-intentioned we are, we can’t get to heaven on our own.

But God is not only just. He is also merciful. In His mercy, He sent His Son to die for us and through His death and resurrection, to open to us the pathway to heaven.
His Son has done this through the Church He established.

Men have, unfortunately, clouded that clear and straightforward message and have made it seem as though the path that Jesus Christ Himself laid down is some sort of option.

God’s mercy is unfathomable. We cannot impose our human limits on His mercy. We can only repeat what He revealed and do our best to cleave as tightly as possible to the path He laid out.

Remember: God’s justice we are going to get whether we want it or not.  His mercy we have to ask for.  And … He will give it, lavishly.

Is it possible for God to save those who live and die outside of what we see as the Catholic Church? Of course it is possible.  God is not limited by our expectations and understanding.

When we see so many of our friends and family living and dying outside of the embrace of the Church, and even see loved ones within the Church living contrary to the demands of the Gospel, we are faced with two temptations.

One temptation is simply to close our eyes and hope for the best.

The other temptation is to despair.

Both these are temptations and should be avoided.

Betwixt these two temptations, we see a course of action. We do everything we can to encourage our loved ones to follow Christ, sometimes by our words, sometimes by our actions, always with our prayers. Those prayers help us to avoid the temptation to despair.

Perhaps this is why at this point in history the Church has placed before us a devotion to the Divine Mercy in addition to our other many good devotions. We can place our loved one’s in the hands of the Merciful Savior. We can beg and plead that, even though we do not see how it can be accomplished, those dear souls may somehow be welcomed into the heavenly homeland that He has prepared.

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Your Sunday Sermon Notes

Was there a good point or two in the Sunday sermon you heard this weekend?

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RECENT POSTS and THANKS

First and foremost, help each other…

YOUR URGENT PRAYER REQUESTS

Some recent posts, which scroll off quickly.

Thanks to donors, especially monthly subscribers, and those of you who have sent items from my wish lists.

I will say Holy Mass for the intention of my benefactors and their fruitful Lent on Ash Wednesday at 7 pm CST (0100 GMT 19 Feb).

It will be a Missa Cantata in the Extraordinary Form at the chapel of the Bishop O’Connor Center in Madison, WI.  Not, perhaps, the “last chance” Mass in the city, but helpful especially for those who work during the day.  Of course, ashes will be imposed.

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A Blog Milestone and a Mass for Benefactors

At sometime this morning, we hit the 40 million visits mark.

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That’s 40 million since I started keeping stats, which wasn’t from the beginning.

In any event, it’s a milestone.

Thanks everyone!

And in thanksgiving especially for you donors and those of you who have sent items from my wish lists, I’ll say Holy Mass for the intention of my benefactors and their fruitful Lent on Ash Wednesday at 7 pm CST (0100 GMT 19 Feb).  It will be a Missa Cantata in the Extraordinary Form at the chapel of the Bishop O’Connor Center in Madison, WI.  Not, perhaps, the “last chance” Mass in the city, but helpful especially for those who work during the day.  Of course, ashes will be imposed.

Ash Wednesday is NOT a Holy Day of Obligation.

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YOUR URGENT PRAYER REQUESTS

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Registered or not, will you in your charity please take a moment look at the requests and to pray for the people about whom you read?

Continued from THESE.

I get many requests by email asking for prayers. Many requests are heart-achingly grave and urgent.

Something is up. I’m getting many more requests for prayers than last year at this time

As long as my blog reaches so many readers in so many places, let’s give each other a hand. We should support each other in works of mercy.

If you have some prayer requests, feel free to post them below. You have to be registered here to be able to post.

I still have a pressing personal petition.

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