A conflicted Fishwrap v. Francis on homosexuals in seminary and priesthood

It took a while.  They probably needed to get the ringing in their ears to stop after being gobsmacked.

The National Sodomitical Reporter (aka Fishwrap) hardly loses any opportunity to defend that which is contrary to nature.

However, Fishwrap is also mired in the incontinent papalotry which has seized the Left.

So, Francis states clearly that homosexuals are not to be admitted to the priesthood.  What on earth are they to do?!?

In this case, their allegiance to sodomy has trumped their other loyalties.

Case in point at Fishwrap, the meanderings of their lesbian authoress Jamie Manson, wholly committed to the cause, to the point that she takes it to Francis.

So, what are ‘deep-seated homosexual tendencies’ anyway?

The pope who once famously said about gay priests, “Who am I to judge?”, is judging again.

In a newly published, book-length interview, Pope Francis has reasserted his worries about the presence of gay men in the clergy and of gays and lesbians in consecrated life.

His statement is a response to this question, posed by the interviewer, Claretian Fr. Fernando Prado: “It is not a secret that in consecrated life and in the clergy there are also people with homosexual tendencies. What can you say about that?”

Francis offers a response that is rather meandering, and even muddled in some parts. He claims that homosexuality is “fashionable” in some societies and that this “mentality also influences the life of the Church.”

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What is really interesting, is that she doesn’t cut Francis any slack.  And she even takes it to fellow lefties for trying to reinterpret what he said until it doesn’t mean what it meant (a common tactic on that side).

“For this reason,” Francis says, “the Church recommends that people with this deep-seated tendency not be accepted into ministry or into consecrated life. Their place is not in ministry or in consecrated life.”

A number of progressive Catholics have rushed to Francis’ defense. Some argue that he is only opposed to priests and religious who break their vows of celibacy. Others insist that he did not include heterosexuals in his condemnation of celibacy-breakers because the interviewer’s question was specifically about gay priests and gay and lesbian religious.

But to apologize for Francis in these ways is to deny what he has said previously about homosexuality and about admitting gay men to the priesthood.

An example, is found also at Fishwrap.  Jesuit Thomas Reese with ultra-liberal RNS said… get this…

Others interpreted “deep-seated” as something akin to “uncontrollable” and therefore incapable of observing celibacy. In this interpretation, “deep-seated heterosexuality” would also be a problem. If the tendency was not “deep-seated,” if he could live a celibate life, then the man could enter the seminary and become a priest.

I guess you can be… what?… too heterosexual?  Yes, ladies and gentleman, Jesuits!

Back to task at hand.  Jamie goes on to deconstruct the phrase “deep-seated homosexual tendencies”, which the CCE’s 2005 used in their document on the homosexuals in seminaries and the priesthood (hint = no!).   She slides deeper and deeper into word salad.

In the end, she turns on Francis.

Regardless of his motivations, Francis’ characterizations of gays and lesbians and his notion of “deep-seated homosexual tendencies” will only foster the toxic homophobic attitudes that are already so prevalent in seminaries and religious communities, as well as in the wider church. In his attempt to discuss “the strength of a vocation,” he has only weakened what little hope LGBTQ Catholics still have for his pontificate.

In general, with Fishwrap and their papalotrous allies, there is hardly anything that Francis could cook up that they wouldn’t obstinately applaud.  Were Francis to stand at the beach and command that the tide not roll in, they would alternate between begging him to keep trying and attestations that the spiritually, at least, tide had ceased its progress at his behest.  They might out-Mottram Mottram.

Poor Fishwrap.

Francis said, in his interview book, “the Church recommends that people with this deep-seated tendency not be accepted into ministry or into consecrated life. Their place is not in ministry or in consecrated life.”  Back in May he told Italian bishops, “If you have even the slightest doubt, it is better not to let them in.”

Poor, poor readers of Fishwrap.

Here is a does of clarity.

As the late Bp. Morlino explained, if a man is attracted to men rather than women, then he is not attracted to marriage.  If he is not attracted to marriage, then giving up marriage  isn’t a sacrifice.  If he is celibate, unmarried, even if there is abstinence in body, the homosexual’s attitude of mind and heart cannot be, “I’m sacrificing marriage and it hurts!”  Moreover, I’ll add, the spousal relationship of the priest and the Church is deeply compromised when the man has these disordered attractions.

There.

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On this day in 2005 …

Today is the 13th birthday of the blog.

I started it originally for the purpose of creating an online archive for my weekly articles for The Wanderer.  It rapidly grew into something more than that.

You readers have been very good to me over the years.

My first post was of a view from the window of my apartment in Rome.

 

Some years later the blog looked like this…

I sense that some changes are coming.

 

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Help a young entrepreneur!

Let’s give this guy a boost.  A young entrepreneur reached out to me for help with his project.  He started something called Crown and Stars, clearly in honor of the Blessed Virgin.

He told me that he wants to make…

Catholic and prolife shirts available that are: thought provoking, grab your attention, conversation starters.

They do that, I think.

If he can sell about 10 more shirts, then Amazon (ALWAYS use my link!) will allow him to make more designs available.

Whaddya say?

>>HERE<<

Some of them are pretty nice.  Just a few…

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ADVENTCAzT 2018 07: “If she had not given her ‘Fiat!’…”

Once again this year I offer short daily podcasts to help you prepare for the upcoming feast as well as for your own, personal, meeting with the Lord.

Here is ADVENTCAzT 07, for Saturday of the 1st Week of Advent, Feast of the Immaculate Conception of the Blessed Virgin Mary.

These 5 minute offerings are a token of gratitude for my benefactors who donate and send items from my wishlist.  Thank you!

Have some Mystic Monk Coffee and have a listen!

Today, cuts from the lovely CD from the Benedictines of Mary, Queen of Apostles, Angels and Saints at Ephesus.  US HERE – UK HERE

Chime in if you listened.

PS: These podcasts should also be available through my iTunes feed, though maybe not immediately. Let me know how you are listening.  Through the plug in on this post? Through iTunes? Downloading?

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7 Dec – Titanic, intriguing St Ambrose of Milan, bishop and doctor

Today is the feast of St. Ambrose of Milan, a titanic figure of the early Church, massively influential, endlessly intriguing.  He died in 397 and is entombed in Milan, where you can visit and venerate his bones, which were recently examined and verified.  HERE

In the past I have written quite a few posts about St. Ambrose, including one about St. Edith Stein’s dialogue between Ambrose and Augustine, whom Ambrose would baptize.  HERE

I’ve also written about how Jerome simply couldn’t stand Ambrose and how he railed against him.  HERE

This year, I would point you all to one of the better books about Ambrose, written by the priest who helped to blow the whistle, as it were, on the disgraced Theodore McCarrick, formerly of the College of Cardinals and perv.  I wonder how Jerome… and Ambrose and Augustine would write about him.  Hmmm.

If you want to know more about Ambrose, and I am sure that you do, check out Ambrose by Boniface Ramsey. US HERE – UK HERE

I also have a few oldie PODCAzTs that touch on Ambrose.  Wow… some are ten years old.

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UPDATE on injuries and recovery with heartfelt thanks

UPDATE 7 Dec 2018:

Many people have sent notes asking how things are going.   I can give this report.

First, I was able to get up and, with some assistance, get to church last night for the Requiem for Bp. Morlino.  I gave the sermon at the end.  I managed with the aid of a cane, rather than crutches and I didn’t need the wheelchair to get myself down the loooong hallway to the entrance where I live.  Pain killers help.

My chest is still pretty sore.  Coughing, sneezing are not moments I relish.  My right shoulder isn’t cooperating very much.  I suspect I’ll have to have some work done there.  There are lots of bruises, which are rather spectacular, as blunt force trauma tends to produce.  Here’s a shot of part of my right arm.  The blue isn’t quite like the forbidden liturgical blue improperly used by some during Advent.  Nor is is like the cerulean that can be used in Marian vestments.  It has a greenish cast, which renders it unliturgical indeed.  Anyway, they are coming out all over.  I suppose it’ll take a while to reabsorb it all.  My aches and pains are prime opportunities to offer up some petitions.  I have BIG ONE I’m working on, the successor in Madison.  Pray with me for that one, please.

Anyway, today I should reach out and ask for some help with a few tasks.  I don’t ask for help easily, I must admit, hence, another way to do penance.

The jury is still out on my NYC trip on Monday.

_____ Originally Published on: Dec 5, 2018

I originally posted a request for prayers after my injuries in Paris. Here’s an update.

First, I’m doing better. I still have a lot of pain, especially around my chest. My foot doesn’t hurt as much. We will keep an eye on the bones that where broken with x-rays. My shoulder is a problem. I have a rotator cuff thing, having landed on the pavement on that shoulder. Pain killers are helping.

Yesterday, for Bishop Morlino’s funeral, I was able to get around with crutches, whereas the night before I needed a wheelchair. It took a lot out of me, however.

I am suppose to travel to NYC next week! My good friend Fr. Murray is being honored, and I want to be there. HERE The doctor said that, if I feel up to it, he didn’t see a reason why I couldn’t go, which left me flabbergasted. I’ll wait for a few days before I make my decision.  It would be a heck of a lot slower time in NYC than I’m used, that’s for sure!

I won’t let this thing beat me, but I also have to be prudent.

Lastly, but most importantly, I am so very grateful to those of you who pitched in to help me upgrade my seat on the plane returning from Paris. It made what was a serious situation quite a bit less painful. I hope I was able to identify everyone who sent donations:

MS, MH, RR, AM, JL, CF, TMcN, KB, WG, DD, WM, RC, EBR, CR, WH, CHEJr, ML, PAC, SW, MW, PJMcD, PSW, MF, JSP, DC, KC, JD, CB, DD, MTG, JD, JWM, JE, DH, KC, PL, MG, RP, PC, JW, DH, KC, PL, RP, CW, SB, CD, CB, JH, CP, TL, MH, St JA, AR, BS, SF, DA, TP, DM, A-MK, DC, J-AF, ER, SP, MRS, AW, LL, DRFB, RC, AL, AKP, MH, TN.COM, WH, KZ, MJC, RC, JR, DL, BMcM, PJPMV, JC, CM, MW, KM, RC, RB, MGA, JL, DB, MV, TG, DH, WMcC, CH, MF, CT, RJ, MA, RO, DR, VC, MEBR, RS, TA, MH, MK, JF

You were material and spiritual consolation to me in a time of real trial.

I’ll say Mass soon for your intention soon. Meanwhile, I do not forget you in my daily prayers.

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Solemn Requiem for @BishopMorlino in @MadisonDiocese

Last night a Solemn Requiem Mass was celebrated at Pine Bluff, WI, at St. Mary’s Church for the repose of the soul of the Extraordinary Ordinary… who shall wear that mantle in the future?… His Excellency, Most Rev. Robert C. Morlino, the late Bishop of Madison.

Priests from the Society of Jesus the Priest and of the Diocese were sacred ministers.

The Mass was preceded by the singing of Vespers from the Office of the Dead.  The pastor, Fr. Heilman presided.

The evening continued with Solemm Mass.

After the Mass and before the absolution of the catafalque, yours truly gave the sermon.

Absolution of the catafalque.

When our loved one’s die, we must avoid canonizing them.  We should pray for the dead, even when we are confident about the state of their souls.  Always ask God for mercy and have Masses said for them and try to gain indulgences for them.

UPDATE:

The whole world is watching this transition in Madison.  Here is a tweet about a Mass for Bp. Morlino in the Diocese of Nellore, India.

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ADVENTCAzT 2018 06: Our Lord will appear in His humanity so that He can be seen by the just and the wicked

Once again this year I offer short daily podcasts to help you prepare for the upcoming feast as well as for your own, personal, meeting with the Lord.

Here is ADVENTCAzT 06, for Friday of the 1st Week of Advent.

These 5 minute offerings are a token of gratitude for my benefactors who donate and send items from my wishlist.  Thank you!

Today we hear a short passage from…

From Advent To Epiphany by Fr. Patrick Troadec – US HERE (English) – UK (French original) HERE

 

Have some Mystic Monk Coffee and have a listen!

Today I use a cut from On Youlis Night by the incomparable Anonymous 4 – US HERE – UK HERE.

Chime in if you listened.

PS: These podcasts should also be available through my iTunes feed, though maybe not immediately. Let me know how you are listening.  Through the plug in on this post? Through iTunes? Downloading?

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VIDEO – Funeral of @BishopMorlino of @MadisonDiocese

Remember: The passing of Bp. Morlino, and his replacement, is being closely watched around the world.

Some people have asked me if a video of the funeral of the late Bishop Morlino is available.

Right now, yes.  HERE

I would point out a few moments of interest.

First, Msgr. Bartylla, the VG and now Diocesan Administrator, gave the sermon.  It starts at 31:25

Also, at the end, Archbp. Listecki made some remarks.  Note well his comments also about Msgr. B.  at 1:43:00

Note that the Mass is ad orientem.

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Latin Mass Society of England & Wales @latinmassuk – Re-upping!

I just re-upped my membership in the venerable LMS, the Latin Mass Society of England and Wales.

>>HERE<<

They have been fighting the good fight for decades and they deserve lots of support, even from those of us who do not live in the sceptr’d isle.

Boost their membership.

We are all in this together and we shall never surrender!

And tell them Fr. Zed sent you.  HERE

 

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Recent Registration

Folks, I let quite a few registrations go unattended lately.  I trust you will have been patient and you will forgive my tardiness.

This morning I went through over 100 registrations and approved almost all of them.

If you registered a while ago, and haven’t been able to log in or post, try now.  If you don’t have any success, drop me a note.

Thanks, everyone.

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ADVENTCAzT 2018 05: The priest, John the Baptist, points toward Jesus

Once again this year I offer short daily podcasts to help you prepare for the upcoming feast as well as for your own, personal, meeting with the Lord.

Here is ADVENTCAzT 05, for Thursday of the 1st Week of Advent.

These 5 minute offerings are a token of gratitude for my benefactors who donate and send items from my wishlist.  Thank you!

Today we hear about the unity of Old Testament and New Testament priesthood in the person of John, who points to Christ Jesus.  Our commentator is Benedict XVI

Have some Mystic Monk Coffee and have a listen!

Today I use a cut from the Easter CD of the Benedictines of Mary, Queen of Apostles.  They have a haunting, touching hymn about Mary, Queen of Priests.  It almost always tightens my throat a little.  Today especially so, in the wake of the burial of Bp. Morlino who did so much for priests.  US HERE – UK HERE

Chime in if you listened.

PS: These podcasts should also be available through my iTunes feed, though maybe not immediately. Let me know how you are listening.  Through the plug in on this post? Through iTunes? Downloading?

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New art from Daniel MITSUI – great gift idea

Are looking for unique religious gifts? May I suggest checking out the beautiful art of Daniel Mitsui?

Daniel works with a fascinating fusion of forms and produces some invocative religious images, pleasing at a glance but profitable for contemplation.

He sent me prints of new work.

First, a work inspired by the old classic, which may hang in some of your houses (or parents’, or grandparents’), 1851 Light of the World  by Pre-Raphaelite William Holman Hunt, in color or black and white prints.

Mitsui has a twist.  Holman showed Christ knocking at the door.  Mitsui shows Christ in the doorway after you open the door.

Mitsui always includes descriptions of the symbolic elements.  Note well the spiderweb in the doorway… the door has been closed on Christ for a long time.

Also, he made an image of Our Lady of Hope.

These prints are lovely.

Why not – for the heck of it – go to his site and just scrounge around for awhile.  There is some great stuff available.

One of these, or another, framed, would be a lovely gift.

BTW… Fathers… his altar cards are wonderful.  HERE and HERE

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After the funeral of @BishopMorlino of @MadisonDiocese

There are some good web pieces available about the funeral Mass of the late, great Extraordinary Ordinary, Bp. Robert Morlino of Madison.

One of the better is at CWR.  [UPDATE: Nothing at Fishwrap.  There is, however, a piece by Jesuit arguing that the bishops should cave in on paying for contraception.  After all, can’t we all just get along?]

His passing is an important moment in the Church in these USA.  His death and the funeral were followed all over the world.  Bp. Morlino was and still is seen as a strong, orienting beacon guiding people to the truth. His sermons, writings and interviews are like buoys, guiding people in the life-rafts around the Barque of Peter away from the rocks and back to the boat.

The naming of his successor will be a watershed in the Church in these USA.

We must now pray with redoubled efforts for the soul of the late bishop, and also for all those who will be involved in the naming of his successor.

Some people might make the grave error of thinking that that little and mostly rural and ultra-liberal diocese of Madison is some sort of ecclesiastical fly over country.   I assure you that that is mistaken thinking.

There are a couple of factors which people might remember when thinking about the open see of the late Extraordinary Ordinary.

First, Mary has placed her blessing on this state.  To the East of Madison, in central South Wisconsin, is Holy Hill, the National Shrine of Our Lady, Help of Christians.  To the West of Madison is the Shrine of Our Lady of Guadalupe.  To the North is Champion, the only officially approved Marian apparition in these USA.

Second, there are a few “force multipliers” in Madison.  The greatest of these is the legacy of Bp. Morlino himself.  However, his voice and message were, I must in honesty, admit were also amplified by other force multipliers which continue even now.  For example, here in the Diocese Fr. Heilman is doing his good work, which is having a national impact.  And, well… I’m here.  If anyone thinks we’ll be quiet, think again.

Third, this is a diocese where the most important legacy of Benedict XVI is being implemented.  Benedict XVI did what he could to deal with the increasingly alarming erosion of Catholic identity through artificial or badly-conceived liturgical worship.  Much of the deeper foundation of the terrible times we are is a crisis of liturgical worship.  Madison has many, especially, young priests who are saying the TLM and saying the Novus Ordo having been shaped by learning the TLM.  The knock on effect, ripple effect, is spreading on many levels, affective, intellectual, spiritual.  This is spiritual warfare we are engaged in.  Liturgy is one of the most important activities we engage in.  Madison is where the vision of Benedict XVI has put down roots.  This vision was also the vision of the Extraordinary Ordinary.  And, remembering the motto on his episcopal arms: Visus non mentietur…The Vision Will Not Disappoint”

This is an important time for the Church in these USA.

 

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ASK FATHER: Can we cook with or drink Holy Water?

From a reader…

QUAERITUR:

Is it a sin to drink/use to cook/use for other purposes BLESSED WATER A/O SALT?

No, it is not a sin!  On the contrary.  Blessed salt and bless water are meant, among other purposes, also for consumption.  There is a caveat, however.

In the traditional exorcism of the salt, the priest prays: “May you be a purified salt, a means of health for those who believe, a medicine for body and soul for all who make use of you.” And it its blessing, he prays: “May all who use it find in it a remedy for body and mind.”

There are also blessings for many other foods, intended to help especially the sick, such as the blessing for wine and all manner of foods.  If it is common fare, there’s probably a blessing for it.

The problem is that sometimes Holy Water is not “fresh”. The salt slows the water going bad, but it doesn’t hold it off indefinitely. I would not use anything for cooking or consumption that wasn’t just blessed and then stored well.  That goes for every other kind of waters.

 

 

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