FEAST DAY! 21 July 1773 – Clement XIV suppressed the Jesuits! – UPDATE!

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1. Imrahil says:

   21 July 2023 at 6:07 AM

   I don‘t like to break it to you, but that, animosities and bickering set aside, really was a papal abuse-of-power and not actually quite unlike what the present, Jesuit, Pope has done with Traditionis custodes. (It can be granted to Pope Clement that he had more of an excuse, with all the political pressure he faced.)

   And the Jesuits (I‘ve heard) were like „just when we were only some more feet away from bringing this dangerous ‚Enlightenment‘ thing under at least some control“. Instead, the Pope sided with the secular powers, who, that much was clear, would stay in power for the next two centuries and not at all face immediate danger of decapitation within the next twenty.
2. Not says:

   21 July 2023 at 7:36 AM

   Fr. Malachi Martin commented that Jesuits,of which he was one , where really stupid. That is why it takes 9 years to become one. He also begged Pope John Paul II to disband the Jesuits. No longer Pope’s Men.
3. sjoseph371 says:

   21 July 2023 at 10:24 AM

   I’m not familiar with all of the history behind the Jesuit suppression of 1773. HOWEVER, one of the fruits of that, for America at least, was the fate of Father John Carroll was tied to this event. For anyone not familiar with Fr. C., he eventually became America’s first Roman Catholic bishop, then the Archbishop of Baltimore. His story is incredible – and if any priest out there think they have it rough managing several parishes now, Fr. C. literally managed the whole diocese of the Eastern Seaboard – as in he rode horseback or walked pretty much the whole East Coast ministering to America’s fledgling Catholic community. There’s a whole LOT more behind his story and I highly recommend looking him up.
4. TheCavalierHatherly says:

   21 July 2023 at 1:48 PM

   My reading has lead me to the conclusion that the suppression of the Jesuits lead to a very large drop off in the educational standards of Europe, and was a massive victory for modern dilettantes (of the stripe of Diderot and Voltaire) and scientism.

   “Suppress and abolish,” instead of “fix” or “restore,” seems to be a typical modern approach. To steal the sentiment of Cato from Cicero’s “De Senectute”:

   “Quod est, eo decet uti et, quicquid agas, agere pro viribus.”

   Unfortunately, those “vires” (as it were) that where in the hands of the Society were pillaged and looted and brought to ruin, to the unrecovered ruin of European civilization.
5. ex seaxe says:

   21 July 2023 at 4:48 PM

   A close analogue of TC indeed, both as an abuse of power and being mainly political, though now pressure from US bishops not European princes and their colonial agents. Particularly sad now because the things VII said should be fixed were largely fixed by the rubric changes in 1965, changes to the Ritus servandus, not to the Ordo Missae, so we know what reform was needed.
6. JustaSinner says:

   22 July 2023 at 4:52 AM

   I’m sure Fr Rayna Martin had tissues and chocolates ready for such a downer day for it.

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