We need to Vatican II harder! If only we had even more catechesis about Vatican II! And MORE synodality and, now, “pastorality”!
The advocates claim Vatican II hasn't had its springtime effect yet because it hasn't been properly implemented
just like the communists claim about communism
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The lack of both priestly and religious vocations and the lack of parish growth in dioceses where the so-called Vatican II synodality and pastorality live is a sure sign that these are not working. Doing more of the same doesn’t appear to resolve these problems. A definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result. Enough said!
Yup, more cowbell!
Sad. Very sad. The insistence that we just have to work harder to implement Vatican II is still common, as is the refusal to acknowledge any possible benefit from a “reform of the reform.” Our new bishop told a group of us seeking approval for our parish to continue the parish TLM that we are actually the problem. We are either ignorant, ill informed, or simply stubborn in our refusal to appreciate all of the wonderful fruits of Vatican II.
The new buzzword from the Vatican about traditionalists is NOSTALGIA. How can all these young people have nostalgia over the TLM?
My own experience with nostalgia was when I saw a Volkswagen super beetle at a dealership. My first 2 vehicles were a beetle and then a super beetle. I asked to take it for a ride. After I said to myself… How did I ever drive this uncomfortable vehicle. So much for nostalgia.
I have learned over the years that “facts” really change people’s mindsets. In Economics, in the Keynesian worldview, both inflation and rising unemployment could not happen. Yet they did. Only a very cogent logical counter-paradigm by Robert Lucas made any dents, based on the reasonable assumption that economic decision markers are forward-liking and will not respond like robots to government policy changes.
We have to pray for a new generation of deep thinking theologians who can offer a counter paradigm. Facts are not going to change the modus operandi of our Church and religious-life leaders.
I fear that if we don’t have at least a modest course change from Pope Leo it will become even more difficult to actually correct course. We seem to have a disconnect between the many wonderful new priests being ordained who seem to have an increasing appreciation for liturgical traditions and many in the hierarchy who maintain a rigid “Spirit of Vatican II” mentality. While traveling we recently went out of of way to attend Mass at a parish we visit on vacation each year where they have a beautiful altar rail carved by a parishioner for Communion and celebrate Mass ad orientem, only to find that the new Bishop of Providence Rhode Island has forbidden use of the altar rail and also forbidden Mass ad orientem. The. Parish was content, why would the Bishop see the need to impose these restrictions? Ambition and a perceived need to “honor” Vatican II because he seeks appointment to be bigger diocese? Distaste for such traditional piety? I wish I could understand.
This reminds me of TDS.
They somehow have believed the lies.
No amount of telling them those were lies will make them believe.
Nor can they see the good.
A good article by Fr. Ladis J. Cizik
https://catholicfamilynews.com/blog/2024/07/18/president-trump-and-the-triumph-of-the-immaculate-heart/
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I share your fears. We seem to have already moved into the stage where persecution of the Latin Mass is just normal business, and nobody cares anymore. My pastor cancels 1 of our Masses a month and never says a word about it. Nobody I know of who regularly attends the Novus Ordo (either at my parish or in my diocese) thinks twice about the ongoing persecution. And it’s having an effect. I can’t help but notice the TLM community at our little rural parish is slowly shrinking after an initial growth after T.C. restrictions. People are going elsewhere or, inexplicable to me, just shrugging and going to the Novus Ordo instead. The bishop continues to enforce the restrictions (even down to the “thou shalt not publish TLM times in the bulletin) and also continues to not say a single, solitary word to the laity whom he is punishing (in the name of “unity and fidelity” of course).
We’ve already moved into the apathy stage, at least in my neck of the woods. For one who refuses to cool to lukewarm temperatures, it’s exasperating.