Rememeber… the TLM must be supressed, but THIS is okay!
From LifeSite:
(LifeSiteNews) — It has come to light that the bishop of Raleigh, North Carolina presided over a shamanistic “smudging” ceremony to celebrate St. Catherine “Kateri” Tekakwitha, who rejected her native Mohawk religion.
Pascua Taqui tribe member Richard Duran led the congregation of Holy Cross Catholic Church in Durham in a “smudging” ceremony in July, according to an archived page of North Carolina Catholics, a diocesan publication. Smudging is a shamanic ritual that involves burning herbs and resins to “cleanse” a space of negative energy and “brin(g) in good spirits,” according to a Native American site. The smoke is “shared with people as an act of prayer and spiritual connection,” NC Catholics reported.
“Father David Miller, who is chaplain to the Native American Catholic Community in the diocese and has ancestral ties to the Shawnee, Lenape and Cherokee tribes of his home state of Oklahoma, offered a traditional prayer in the four directions,” the report stated.
The prayer in the four directions is a pagan prayer traditionally understood to be directed to the Creator but also calls upon “spirits” associated with the North, South, East and West.
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Exorcists tell me that when you invoke a “spirit” with a name, you give authority to that demon to do thing.
But… try to kneel for Communion of Almighty GOD Incarnate… use a little lace… celebrate ad orientem as all our forebears did….





















SSPX, necessity, more proof. I am not sure how anyone can really doubt the claim anymore but if you need more convincing. wait a few hours, and some bishop will do something stupid and dangerous. I am not a member of SSPX but they are near and dear to my heart and a large part of my own vocation story.
Inside intel tells me that the USCCB wants to expand such pagan Indian practices and incorporate them into our liturgies. So this goofy stuff will only become more common in the US and the divine judgment will only get harsher for those who should know better.
Items like this always remind me of the observation that goes through my head at the NO-V2 Mass. You will almost always hear an alternate version of the Eucharistic Prayer. I’ve noticed that it (any non-Roman-canon version you care to select) always tries to mimic just about every single element from the Canon (proving it is just an exercise in author-vanity), BUT, the one element that none of them mimic or paraphrase, but diligently avoid is the prayer for “all those who, holding to the truth, hand on the catholic and apostolic faith”.
That is a most telling omission, especially when facing codswallop like this.
They are making it easier & easier for people to decide which side they’re on.
Getting close to my red line; line in the sand
“Rememeber… the TLM must be supressed, but THIS is okay!” I think this language is harmful. Why? It uses one error to justify another error. You can fall off a horse to the left or to the right. The presence of evil on the left does not give excuse to join schism on the right. This comment is a dig that makes people feel emotionally justified in their schism. Please stop it.
It was all so wonderful and peaceful until the Europeans brought Original Sin and concupiscense with them.
@Bev
Please stop equating devotion to the Sacred Liturgical Tradition of the Church as being schismatic.
Remember, the Catholic Church is holy because its founder is holy and it has the tools to make people holy.
@WVC
I’ve exclusively attended the Latin Mass for 20+ years. I’m not saying the Mass is the problem, I am saying the SSPX schism is a problem. And I think that was abundantly clear in my first post.
We should not make anyone feel comfortable with schism. The “but they are doing bad things” argument is not a justification for schism, but some use it to comfort the emotions of those who are in schism, which is a terrible deed. They should feel every ounce of guilt that comes with schism. Some will not leave schism any other way but for the feeling of guilt.
Dear Bev,
No, it was not clear in your first post, especially since neither Fr. Z nor yourself even mentioned the SSPX.
Regarding the rest of your sentiment, feel free to harbor as much ill will as you can against anyone deemed by the Powers That Be to be in schism. Just be aware that that particular line appears to be very arbitrary and, before you know it, someone who has exclusively attended the Latin Mass for more than 20 years might suddenly find him or herself on the other side of it in the blink of a Papal whim.