ROME 26/10– Day 21: fountain

ROME 26/10– Day 21: fountain Each of the “rioni” or districts of Rome have a characteristic fountain put in place in the 1920s. They have some symbol, pertinent to the area, such as this one, which has books for the original site of the Sapienza University and the stag’s head for the Church of St. Eustachio, which saint gives the name to the Rione. The books once has Fascist symbols, later chiseled off.

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13 Comments

  1. CasaSanBruno says:

    Just claiming you “hear a call” doesn’t imply that the source of it is sound. St. Paul tells us that Satan can disguise himself (herself?) as an angel of light.

    Gluttons hear a call to the fridge. Alcoholics hear bottles calling out their names. All sorts of people, especially those whose bodies reveal their vices, claim to hear calls that, surprise, surprise, reveal their disordered attachments.

    This penchant to absolutize what is clearly subjectivist that we see in these synodallywalkingtogetherinlockstep utterances are so gay and retarded.

  2. TheCavalierHatherly says:

    “Hear the call”

    Sometimes I hear neighborhood cats fighting in my yard. This hasn’t prompted me to dress up like a boxing referee.

  3. fac says:

    How do we facilitate that discernment?

    If such ladies truly seek to discern, ask them to enter a contemplative monastery, living in silence, where her life is a round of physical work, prayer, and a modest amount of sleep and sustenance, asking themselves daily, “Am I willing to lose my life for God’s sake, and my will for His will?” for a minimum of ten years. I think if they were sincere in such a “discernment” the idea she is called to be a priest will disappear.

    My guess is this is not the answer she’s looking for, and she would reject it out of hand.

    And note: even the lady saints who may have thought they would like to be priests recognized the temptation as such, and did not act on that inclination, but submitted themselves to the will of God as expressed though the Church, by accepting the limitations God had placed on them by nature of their sex. If they were meant to be priests, they would have been born male. Any desire to the contrary is a sign of non servium, and so, not God’s will.

    It’s basically a failure of being able to distinguish God’s will from your own, and submit to His will and reject your own. And that sin is as old as Eve’s.

  4. The Bruised Optimist says:

    When will *women* understand that:

    No means no.
    Every. Single. Time.

  5. JonPatrick says:

    That’s funny I can’t recall any of the woman saints I have read ever mentioning that they aspired to be ordained. I must have missed something.

    Today we are sad as we have to leave the Eternal City. We had a wonderful time here.

  6. L. says:

    One would think that for these public comments she’d be canned from her Vatican job in short order, but I guess that would be unjust. If others can attend a drug-fueled homosexual orgy in a Vatican apartment or show reverence to a statue of a South American goddess at the Vatican without much ill effect, why should she suffer for expressing unorthodox opinions?

  7. Archlaic says:

    One can accept the “NO” – even without personally agreeing – and be a practical Catholic… we can accept the “NO” because we recognize the authority of the Church… we can accept the “NO” because we’ve attempted to conform our minds and consciences to the Church’s teaching, educated ourselves, and fully understand the rationale behind that teaching… or we can delude ourselves that the Church can change its immemorial teachings because we have… feelings! These are not serious people and any churchman who gives them an iota of attention ought to be given a basic IQ test!

  8. NavyVet says:

    The role of the priest is to offer sacrifice, of himself, in persona Christi. It is a complete denial of self for the sake of God. That is, in its essence, what masculinity is: sacrifice.

    If women really want to do what men do, then they should be willing to die to themselves, which means saying no to the desire to do what men do. There is a certain irony here. Women who want to do manly things, but accept the fact they cannot, are in fact doing the manly thing.

  9. Ave Maria says:

    I wonder where the “call” is coming from?

  10. NickD says:

    The sister does not name these Saints that supposedly support her argument. Anyone have any idea about whom she’s talking?

    If she were to name names, I strongly suspect @fac would be proven right in saying: “even the lady saints who may have thought they would like to be priests recognized the temptation as such, and did not act on that inclination, but submitted themselves to the will of God as expressed though the Church, by accepting the limitations God had placed on them by nature of their sex.”

    Otherwise Sister’s saints might as well be Nancy Pelosi, who always wanted to be a priest over being a nun because, quoth she, “Turning bread and wine into the body and blood of Christ, that is real power. Maybe one day women will be able to do that as well.”

  11. maternalView says:

    I don’t think discernment means what she thinks it means.
    These people always use that word as a justification for the cause they are already planning to embrace.
    When discerning the possibility exists that the answer is no. (Which answer we already received.) Does she look like she’s accepting of that possibility? No, they use discerning as a cudgel until the other side gives up.

  12. prayfatima says:

    She may be referring to St. Therese. From St. Therese’s Story of a Soul:

    “Yet I feel the call of more vocations still; I want to be a warrior, a priest, an apostle, a doctor of the Church, a martyr—there is no heroic deed I do not wish to perform. I feel as daring as a crusader, ready to die for the Church upon the battlefield.”

    The thing is, St. Therese knew the Sacrament of Holy Orders and the ordained priesthood are reserved for men. Through all her many feelings and wishes, she expresses a fundamental desire to offer every moment of her life to God with great love. This is what every baptized Catholic is called to do.

    If a woman describes feeling “a call” to the priesthood, she should be taught that through baptism she already shares in the priestly mission of Jesus. Like Jesus, she can make her whole life an offering to God, in whatever vocation she is in.

    The long history of the Church teaches us that the ordained priesthood through the Sacrament of Holy Orders is reserved for men alone. Christ did everything with intention and purpose, and He intentionally chose 12 men to be His apostles and the apostles in turn only ordained men to the priesthood. The priest ministers in the person of Christ, Himself a male, so it is only fitting that the ordained priesthood be made up of males. Also, the entire Church is referred to as the “bride of Christ” and Christ is referred to as the “bridegroom.” Only males are referred to as “bridegrooms.”

  13. jp60 says:

    Call? I’m guessing wrong number.

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