ASK FATHER: Can Catholics still get married with the Traditional Latin rite of Matrimony?

From a reader…

QUAERITUR:

Does Traditions custodes in any way change the position of the traditional rite of marriage as related to the requirement to observe canonical form? Can a Catholic still marry validly and licitly in the older rite? Would permission from the local ordinary be required?

Your question opens onto to several fronts.  Let’s take care of the immediate question first.

The Apostolic Letter Traditionis custodes, makes no mention of either the Sacrament of Marriage or the ritual involved in the contracting of marriage for Latin Catholics.

TC states – as if it were a fact – that the current liturgical books are “the unique expression of the lex orandi of the Roman Rite”. That statement is, like any statement, obviously open to proof to the contrary.  Gratis asseritur, gratis negatur.

In fact, several months later, the very same Francis issued an Apostolic Constitution (which has greater canonical weight than a mere Apostolic Letter), Praedicate Evangelium, in which he acknowledged and legislated for two forms of the Roman Rite.

Negatur.

Being faithful sons of the Holy Church we must more recent and weightier rulings as those in force now.  PE does not mention any liturgical books other than the Roman Missal of 1962.

Several months later, the erstwhile Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments answered several dubia that had been proposed… apparently.  Those who … apparently…  asked those eleven questions, and only they, are bound by the responses given, in which the Prefect mandates that the Rites for the Sacraments using the 1952 Rituale, may only be performed in personal parishes dedicated to the Extraordinary Form.

Thus, unless your diocese submitted those eleven questions – which purportedly gave rise to the responses – there is nothing in the universal law that would prohibit the celebration of the Sacrament of Marriage using the classic ritual.  Such a marriage, presuming everything else is in order, would be valid and licit.  Unless there is particular law in the diocese, no specific permission is needed.

There is without question reasonable doubt in the air in these days about this and other matters concerning the Traditional Latin Mass, the Sacraments, and other items from the ritual.  The constant changing, updating, and tweaking of the Code of Canon Law and the shifting of terminology, competency, and even authority has lent to the Church a constant state of inconstancy.

It is helpful to review Canon 14, one of the canons by which all the canons in the Code and all legislation – are to be interpreted.

“Laws, even invalidating and incapacitating ones, do not oblige when there is a doubt of the law…”

A doubt of the law arises when serious, reasonable men find themselves confused, not merely when some uninformed or uneducated person doesn’t understand the law.

We right now in a situation where much doubt has been sown. Perhaps intentionally?  It might not be a waste of time to review Francis’ Four Postulates from his programmatic encyclical Evangelii gaudium.   Review those “tools”, as it were, of control and change through disruption ad conflict, and then take a look around.

Holy Mother Church doesn’t want us in a state of constant agitation or uncertainty for long periods of time.  Hence, enshrined in her law are principles of interpretation which allow us to navigate the treacherous waters we are in and also – this is important – puts us at ease about the validity of many acts and situations.  We don’t have a visible Church with laws so that we can be constantly worried about what’s going on.  If that is the state of affairs, then something isn’t right.

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I use this portable router and WIFI hotspot when I travel in these USA and abroad.  Fast enough for Zoom.  I can also connect my DMR (ham radio) through it.  If you use my link, they reward me with more data.  I’m taking it with me on my Italian sojourn.

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Concerning the Traditional Latin Mass in Washington D.C.

The effects of the cruel Traditionis custodes are widespread.

Here is an excerpt from an email, followed by a link to a blog post about the D.C. situation regarding the Vetus Ordo.

We are praying hard for the Cardinal at this time. It is particularly important to my family, as my 5 sons (with a 6th on the way!) have been baptized in the Traditional Rite. Additionally, my 2 oldest sons have learned to serve the TLM, and have benefited immensely from doing so, especially my eldest, who is struggling with feelings of frustration and anger over losing the rite he has come to love so well. For myself, it is strange to think that I am likely the first man in my family in direct male descent in the past 500 years to not have learned to serve the TLM – but still thanking God that these sons learned to do so. I sincerely hope and pray that my younger sons will be allowed to learn to serve the rite that their grandfather, great-grandfather and ancestral patriarchs did.

May God’s will be done. There is power in the Blood, and without that, nothing.

As I read that I had the image of a Recusant man in the 1530’s England writing by candlelight.

The link he sent:  HERE   A quick bite:

Some parishioners held signs with phrases like “T.L.M. Please,” “Prayer, Not Politics,” and “Cardinal Gregory: The Lord Be With You, Please Let us Pray.” At the front was a small girl who insisted on waving a Sacred Heart banner larger than herself for the better part of the afternoon, undaunted by the rain. All of this was plainly visible to the cardinal and synod delegates inside.

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Your Sunday Sermon Notes: 4th Sunday after Easter (5th Sunday of, N.O.)

Too many people today are without good, strong preaching, to the detriment of all. Share the good stuff.

Was there a GOOD point made in the sermon you heard at your Mass of obligation for the 4th Sunday of Easter?

Tell about attendance especially for the Traditional Latin Mass.  I hear that it is growing.  Of COURSE.

Any local changes or (hopefully good) news?

I have some written remarks about the TLM Mass for this Sunday – HERE

 

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Fr Dana Christensen: R.I.P.

At last Fr. Dana Christensen as gone to God.  His was one of the more of more heroic struggles against the effects of Original Sin that I’ve encountered.

In your goodness, please pray for him.

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WDTPRS – 4th Sunday after Easter (1962MR): The smoke of Satan in the Temple of God

The Collect for the 4th Sunday after Easter, in the traditional Roman calendar, is the same as the Collect for the 21st Ordinary Sunday in the post-Conciliar calendar. Or… the other way around! Let’s look at the structure.

Deus, qui fidelium mentes unius efficis voluntatis, da populis tuis id amare quod praecipis, id desiderare quod promittis, ut, inter mundanas varietates, ibi nostra fixa sint corda, ubi vera sunt gaudia.

A master crafted this prayer. It is in the ancient Gelasian Sacramentary.  Listen to those “eee”s produced by the Latin “i”.

Savor those parallels.

Deus, qui fidelium mentes unius efficis voluntatis, da populis tuis
id amare quod praecipis,
id desiderare quod promittis,
ut, inter mundanas varietates,
ibi nostra fixa sint corda,
ubi vera sunt gaudia.

Also…

Deus, qui fidelium mentes unius efficis voluntatis, da populis tuis
id amare quod praecipis,
id desiderare quod promittis,
ut, inter mundanas varietates,
ibi nostra fixa sint corda,
ubi vera sunt gaudia.

When the text is simply on the page, in continuous lines (word wrap?), you don’t see it.  You have to hear it.

Varietas means “difference, diversity, variety.”  It is commonly used to indicate “changeableness, fickleness, inconstancy.”  I like “vicissitude”.  The adjective mundanus is “of or belonging to the world”.

LITERAL RENDERING:

O God, who make the minds of the faithful to be of one will, grant unto Your people to love that thing which You command, to desire that which You promise, so that, amidst the vicissitudes of this world, our hearts may there be fixed where true joys are.

CURRENT ICEL (2011):

O God, who cause the minds of the faithful to unite in a single purpose, grant your people to love what you command and to desire what you promise, that, amid the uncertainties of this world, our hearts may be fixed on that place where true gladness is found.

Let us revisit that id…quod. We can accurately say “love that which you command,” or “love what you command”, but that strikes me as vague.  Can we be more concrete and say “love the thing you command… desire the thing you promise”?

We are called to love and desire God’s will in concrete situations, in the details of life, especially when those details are little to our liking.

We must love God in this beggar, this annoying creep, this Jesuit, not in beggars, creeps, and Jesuits in general.  We must love Christ and His Cross in this act of fasting, this basket of laundry, thisbishop who cancels priests. I said it was a challenge!

We must not reduce God’s will to an abstraction or an ideal. “Thy will (voluntas) be done on earth as it is in heaven”… or so it has been said.

Lest we forget why we needed new translation….

OBSOLETE ICEL (1973):

Father, help us to seek the values that will bring us lasting joy in this changing world. In our desire for what you promise make us one in mind and heart.

Good riddance!  “Values”.  Very slippery.  Typical of the obsolete translation.

To my ear, “values” has a shifting, subjective starting point. In 1995 Gertude Himmelfarb wrote in The De-Moralization of Society: From Victorian Virtues to Modern Values that “it was not until the present century that morality became so thoroughly relativized that virtues ceased to be ‘virtues’ and became ‘values.’”

In this post-Christian, post-modern world, “values” seems to indicate little more than our own self-projection.

John Paul II taught about “values”, but in contradiction to the way “values” are commonly understood today.  For example, we read in Evangelium vitae 71 (emphasis added):

“It is urgently necessary, for the future of society and the development of a sound democracy, to rediscover those essential human and moral values which flow from the very truth of the human being and express and safeguard the dignity of the person: values which no individual, no majority, and no state can ever create, modify, or destroy, but must only acknowledge, respect, and promote.”

In his 1985 letter to young people Dilecti amici 4, John Paul II taught:

“Only God is the ultimate basis of all values…. in Him and Him alone all values have their first source and final completion… Without Him – without the reference to God – the whole world of created values remains as it were suspended in an absolute vacuum.”

Benedict XVI has spoken about the threats we face from the “dictatorship of relativism”, from the reduction of the supernatural to the natural, from caving in to “the world”.

Christ warned His Apostles about “the world”, saying said: “The world cannot hate you, but it hates me because I testify of it that its works are evil” (John 7:7).  He spoke about this world’s “prince” (John 12:31; 14:30 16:11).  St Paul wrote: “Do not be conformed to this world but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that you may prove what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect” (Romans 12:2).

If what “the world” offers gets priority over what God offers the world through His Holy Church, we produce the situation Paul VI described on 29 June 1972, the ninth anniversary of his coronation:

“Through some crack the smoke of Satan has entered into the temple of God.”

Our Collect today asks God to grant that His will be the basis of our “values” in concrete terms, not in mere good intentions or this world’s snares.

Of course today, we see what the Satanic smoke in the Lord’s House has done.  John XXIII and Paul VI wanted to throw the windows open to the world.  Be careful what you wish for.

Now we have to throw the windows and doors and maybe the roof also to the renewing light and rushing wind of the Holy Spirit of Truth to clean out the slimy residue the smoke left on just about everything.

 

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