ASK FATHER: Can you gain an indulgence by reciting the Rosary with the Luminous Mysteries?

ASK FATHER: Can you gain an indulgence by reciting the Rosary with the Luminous Mysteries?From a reader…

QUAERITUR:

I have never seen a decree or document stating that the Luminous Mysteries of the Rosary have been indulgenced.

I suspect you also have never seen a decree that the Glorious Mysteries have been indulgenced.

The Luminous Mysteries, or Mysteries of Light, are on the Vatican website. HERE  They were derived, in part, by John Paul II’s reflection on the writings of Bl. Bartolo Longo, a converted Satanic priest.  That’s a pretty impressive conversion.

The short answer is: yes.

These beautiful devotions are a bit fluid.  There are different methods of saying the Via Crucis, or Stations of the Cross, even different events of the Via Crucis as points of meditation than those commonly found in our favorite versions, such as that of St. Alphonsus.   There are different methods of saying the Rosary as well, not just one.

BTW… you will notice that on the Vatican website for the Mysteries, the method of reciting the Rosary includes the Litany of Loreto.   Do you do that?  No?  It also starts differently, more like the recitation of the Office (thus the connection with the Psalter).  Also, the Vatican website says that:

The Rosary is made up of twenty “mysteries”….

And …

“This indication is not intended to limit a rightful freedom in personal and community prayer, where account needs to be taken of spiritual and pastoral needs and of the occurrence of particular liturgical celebrations which might call for suitable adaptations”  (Rosarium Virginis Mariae, 38).

Again, there are different ways to pray this devotion.

I have no strong desire to use the Luminous Mysteries.  I’m content with the three sets which I originally learned.  That said, if I were in some group that was going to say the Rosary, such as on a bus in the Holy Land with pilgrims, and someone launched into the Luminous Mysteries, I wouldn’t run up and down the aisle waving them out of the air.  I can’t fathom why it would be a problem do reflect on, say, the Transfiguration of the Lord (I think that’s one of them, no?).

Some will object the recitation of the three chaplets of the Rosary, each with its five decades, amounts to the same number as the Psalms.  50 /3 = 150, right?   Sort of like the Office for those who don’t say the Office.  I recall reading someone’s notion that by adding another chaplet, the Luminous, you have 200 / 3 and that’s 66.6… Ooooo!   We really don’t need that sort of thing.  And wouldn’t it be 200 /4 ?

Others might object that adding another set of Mysteries goofs up the days of the week and which set to use.  I have zero sympathy for that argument.  Use the set you want when you want.   See above.

The important thing is that you recite the Rosary.

With that, I’ll conclude with something I’ve posted before, that an exorcist friend told me.  He told me about the effect that the Rosary has on demons.

In general, the Rosary has a greater effect on demons than any other devotion.  On the “screamometer” from the demons, the Rosary is powerful.

He recounted a particular experience during an exorcism.

Exorcisms can go on for hours and many different prayers and devotions, along with the actual ritual, are deployed.  At one point they were saying the Rosary.  The demon stared to laugh at them.  When queried, the demon responded that their distracted Hail Mary’s were like, “laying wilted dried flowers at her feet”.   When asked what an attentive Rosary filled with love was like, the demon said, “What is a fragrant bouquet for her is our downfall.”

[UPDATE: I’m getting notes along the line of “Even if the flowers are wilted mothers like them if their little children bring them!”  Sentimentalism isn’t wrong because it is sentimental.  Mothers also like the really bad art their children draw… or say they do.  Heck, I like it, too, especially in the Christmas cards you send.  Sincerely.  HOWEVER… wilted flowers are not the best when offered by adults.  Sit down at a restaurant and there are wilted flowers.  Outstanding, right?  Kid art in the Metropolitian Museum… nope.  (Even though some kid art is better than what you see in some of the galleries where I rarely go.) We are adults reading this and not 3 year olds.  Do your best as often as you can.  You can stop with the notes about mothers and children and wilted flowers.  As I conclude this I just thought, “Now some Smarticus Pantsicus is going to write that a term for a “still life” painting is “natura morta”, sometimes with wilting flowers, rotting fruit, or even flies.”  You can’t win.  Smarticus… keep in mind my shifting mood on a stressful day, please. Are hasty Hail Mary’s better than none at all? Maybe.]

Prayers have purposes and effects.  While sacraments work ex opere operato, devotions have effect ex opere operantis.

I think it is better to lay nice flowers at Mary’s feet rather than wilted ones.  And it is difficult to understand how these are not beautiful flowers:

  • Baptism of the Lord
  • Wedding at Cana
  • Proclamation of the Kingdom of God
  • Transfiguration
  • Institution of the Eucharist (which also means Priesthood)

 

 

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Rome 22/11 – Day 35: Getting to the heart of it

Rome 22/11 - Day 35: Getting to the heart of it6:44 was sunrise and 17:03 will be sunset in Rome. The Ave Maria should ring at 17:30.

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Also, there is now talk of my returning to Rome for Holy Week, or at least the Triduum.  More on that to come.

For this day we thank you, Lord.

It is the Feast of St. Charles Borromeo, a magnificent and important figure of the Counter-Reformation. While his body is in Milan, where he was Archbishop, his heart is in Rome, behind the main altar of the church dedicated to him on the Via del Corso.

Rome 22/11 - Day 35: Getting to the heart of it

Rome 22/11 - Day 35: Getting to the heart of it

Rome 22/11 - Day 35: Getting to the heart of it

Rome 22/11 - Day 35: Getting to the heart of it

The writing is St. Charles motto: HUMILITAS.

A detail from the fresco above the little chapel.

Rome 22/11 - Day 35: Getting to the heart of it

San Carlo al Corso

Rome 22/11 - Day 35: Getting to the heart of it

Meanwhile…

WHITE to move.  Get that King!

Rome 22/11 - Day 35: Getting to the heart of it

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Rome 22/11 - Day 35: Getting to the heart of it

Thanksgiving is coming up.  How about some excellent beer for your meal from the traditional Benedictine monks in Norcia?   This is really good, especially with savory foods.

Rome 22/11 - Day 35: Getting to the heart of it

Finally, a note to donors and benefactors.  Some of you have moved over to Zelle for regular donations.  While that works well, there is one little problem.  Whereas the other services for donations included an email for you, Zelle does not … unless you include it, I think.  Therefore it is nigh on impossible for me to send you a thank you note unless I can match you up with previous donations with another service.

Please know that I still note everyone’s names and I pray for you regularly.  Here in Rome I have been offering Masses for my Roman Sojourn donors especially, but also all you benefactors.  It is my pleasure and my duty.  I ask prayers for myself, especially now.

Especially in the next three days.

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ROME 22/11 – Day 34: Four Last Things… Vetus v. Novus… Wherein Fr. Z rants

ROME 22/11 – Day 34: Four Last Things... Vetus v. Novus... Wherein Fr. Z rantsIn Rome today the sun rose well after I did, at 6:43 and it will set at 17:04. I, however, unlike the sun, may have a nap: there will be no eclipse today… at least visible from Rome. If there is some other syzygy, I will be unaware of it. The Ave Maria bell ought to ring at 17:30. There are 59 days left in this calendar year and Advent is on the horizon.

For this day, Lord, we thank you.

Given that we are in the month dedicated to prayer for the dead, let us also consider on our own the Four Last Things, Death, Judgement, Heaven and Hell. Two of these are not optional. The other two are contingent. BUT… you will wind up in one of them. You will. It might mean a period of time in Purgatory. In that case, we should be solicitous about those who are NOW in Purgatory, whom we can help along by taking on some of the penance they might in justice still perform due to temporal punishment due to sin. Through the treasury of the merits of Christ’s Sacrifice and of the saints, Holy Church has Christ’s own authority to “unbind” temporal punishment due to sin to one degree or another, partial or whole. The Church has designated certain works to perform, in a prayerful and devout attitude and with a proper intention, which can be applied to souls in Purgatory.

The Golden Rules applies here, doesn’t it. The “poor” souls, rich in the knowledge that one day they will enter Heaven, are still members of the Church. We who are members who are still alive on Earth should be interested in them, as we are interested in the materially poor or sick in front of our eyes.

You can gain plenary indulgences during the eight day period after All Saints/Souls. Make use of this gift.

And GO TO CONFESSION.

BTW… a priest wrote to tell me that I was wrong about the period for the plenary indulgence during the “octave”.  He said he was sure that the period was extended for the entire month of November.  I don’t believe that is correct.  It was extended in a Decree of the Sacra Paenitentiaria Apostolica in 2021 for that year because of COVID-19 (Prot. No. 1253/21/1).  The extension of the indulgence was granted for November 2020 and 2021.

NOW IT IS OVER.  There has returned in force the concession #29 in the Enchiridion Indulgentiarum.   The dates for the concession 1-8 November.

Fathers: Don’t be telling people that they have all of November.

Finally, since I am in Rome this morning I called the offices of the Sacra Penitenzieria and asked them specifically.

I’ll update a previous post with this.

And…

The ordo ( for the Vetus Ordo) for this year has this: NB the 3rd paragraph.

ROME 22/11 – Day 34: Four Last Things... Vetus v. Novus... Wherein Fr. Z rants

Speaking of raising the souls of Purgatory through the mercy of God….

ROME 22/11 – Day 34: Four Last Things... Vetus v. Novus... Wherein Fr. Z rants

On the side of the catafalque.  Tempus fugit.  Again, I say…

GO TO CONFESSION!

ROME 22/11 – Day 34: Four Last Things... Vetus v. Novus... Wherein Fr. Z rants

ROME 22/11 – Day 34: Four Last Things... Vetus v. Novus... Wherein Fr. Z rants

A cheerfully bound book for the celebration of Requiem Masses.

ROME 22/11 – Day 34: Four Last Things... Vetus v. Novus... Wherein Fr. Z rants

We are living in a time in the Church when the Last Things which are FOUR in number (mentioned above) are more or less reduced to one alone: Heaven.  The Novus Ordo systematically stripped out of the prayers concepts like sin, guilt, penance, propitiation, etc., in favor of an emphasis on the future joy of Heaven.   The result is a rosy view of our final end, as individuals and a Church that doesn’t correspond to reality.

While it is true that Christ conquered Death and Sin once for all time, it remains true that, in order to partake of that victory, we have responsibilities.   It isn’t automatic.

There are some in the Church today, let’s call them Vatican II absolutists, who argue that we mustn’t stick to the texts the Council produced, we have to discern the new and revolutionary style of the documents in which we discover the Council’s real authority.  Rather than a style of judgment or prescriptions or correction, V2 gave us a new “age of the Church” (yes, people say that) characterized by dialogue, welcoming, accompaniment, etc.  This new style, call it the “spirit of Vatican II” is so radically charged with – they claim (though I am not sure on the basis of any evidence) that virtually everything about the Church before the Council “event” must be reinterpreted, changed, brought up to date, etc.   What was before is not so much “sacred and great” but rather antithetical to the “spirit” discerned (I am not sure how) on the new spirit-inspired “style” of the Council.  It’s all right there, not in the black on which of the documents but rather between the lines, in the inspirations of those who were at the Council, in the imaginations of those who followed.

So, we are now and Easter people and Alleluia is our name.  We don’t worry now about sin, guilt, expiation, propitiation, in sober black that reminds us of our dusty future.  No.  Now we blue sky together as we engage in dialogue with a few to the Heaven that is doubtless ours.  So great is that future, that we also should bring our utopia of dialogue to life here and now in a kind of permanent revolution of “walking together”.

So, the prayers of the Novus Ordo and of the Vetus Ordo seem to some to be in conflict.

They are not.

The problem is that the Novus reduced the content to the eschatological joy of Heaven and obscured what you have to do to get there.

On the other hand, the eschatological joy of Heaven is front and center in many of the prayers of the Vetus Ordo, but the tough message of how to get there remains also.

If the Novus Ordo points optimistically to where we want to go, the Vetus Ordo also points there but is more practical in telling us what we have to do to get there: penance, works of mercy, constant examination of life.

Meanwhile, lovely light.  Too bad about that tarp.

ROME 22/11 – Day 34: Four Last Things... Vetus v. Novus... Wherein Fr. Z rants

ROME 22/11 – Day 34: Four Last Things... Vetus v. Novus... Wherein Fr. Z rantsPlease remember me when shopping online. Thanks in advance. US HERE – UK HERE  These links take you to a generic “catholic” search in Amazon, but, once in and browsing or searching, Amazon remembers that you used my link and I get the credit.

WHITE TO MOVE. You need a strong forcing move to gain the decisive material advantage.  The first move is not obvious, or it wasn’t at first to me.  But it “cleared” up fast once I found it.

ROME 22/11 – Day 34: Four Last Things... Vetus v. Novus... Wherein Fr. Z rants

[I’ll hold your solutions in the comment queue for a while to let others work it without spoilers.  It has been great to see your answers!]

Priestly chess players, drop me a line. HERE

 

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2 November – All Souls, Octave, Indulgences, and YOU! – **IMPORTANT UPDATE about availability of the indulgences**

UPDATE 3 Nov ’22:

A priest wrote to tell me that I was wrong about the period for the plenary indulgence during the “octave”.  He said he was sure that the period was extended for the entire month of November.  This WAS the case and it is NO LONGER the case.   The concession had been extended for all of November in a Decree of the Sacra Paenitentiaria Apostolica in 2020 and 2021 for because of COVID-19 (Prot. No. 1253/21/1).  The extension of the indulgence was granted for November 2020 and 2021. Only.

NOW IT IS OVER.  There has returned in force the concession #29 in the Enchiridion Indulgentiarum (The Handbook of Indulgences).   Now, again, the dates for the concession 1-8 November.

Fathers: Don’t be telling people that they have all of November.  It’s 1-8 November.

Finally, since I am in Rome this morning I called the offices of the Sacra Penitenzieria and asked them specifically.


2 November – All Souls, Octave, Indulgences, and YOU! - **IMPORTANT UPDATE about availability of the indulgences**Originally Published on: Nov 2, 2022

Let’s have a review of the indulgences available for All Souls and the days that follow, so that you can plan your own action.  Don’t let these days slip by.

From the Handbook of Indulgences:

Visiting a Church or an Oratory on All Souls Day

A plenary (“full”) indulgence, which is applicable only to the souls in Purgatory is granted to the Christian faithful who devoutly visit a church or an oratory on (November 2nd,) All Souls Day.

Requirements for Obtaining a Plenary Indulgence on All Souls Day (2 Nov)

  • Visit a church and pray for souls in Purgatory
  • Say one “Our Father” and the “Apostles Creed” in the visit to the church
  • Say one “Our Father” and one “Hail Mary” for the Holy Father’s intentions (that is, the intentions designated by the Holy Father each month)
  • Worthily receive Holy Communion (ideally on the same day if you can get to Mass)
  • Make a sacramental confession within 20 days of All Souls Day
  • For a plenary indulgence be  free from all attachment to sin, even venial sin (otherwise, the indulgence is partial, not plenary, “full”).

You can acquire one plenary indulgence a day.

A partial indulgence can be obtained by visiting a cemetery and praying for the departed.

Each day between 1 November and 8 November you can gain plenary indulgence visiting a cemetery. These indulgences are applicable only to the Souls in Purgatory.

A plenary indulgence, applicable only the Souls in Purgatory, is also granted when you visit a church or a public oratory on 2 November. While visiting the church or oratory say one Our Father and the Apostles Creed.

A partial indulgence, applicable only to the Souls in Purgatory, can be obtained when saying the “Eternal rest … Requiem aeternam…” prayer.

Do you know this prayer?

Requiem aeternam dona ei [pl.eis], Domine, et lux perpetua luceat ei [eis]. Requiescat [-ant] in pace Amen.

Eternal rest grant to them, O Lord, and let perpetual light shine upon them. May the souls of the faithful departed, through the mercy of God, rest in peace. Amen.

It is customary to add the second half of the “Eternal Rest” prayer after the prayer recited at the conclusion of a meal.

Gratias agimus tibi, omnipotens Deus, pro universis beneficiis tuis, qui vivis et regnas in saecula saeculorum.

Fidelium animae, per misericordiam Dei, requiescant in pace. Amen.

We give Thee thanks, almighty God, for all Thy benefits, Who livest and reignest, world without end.

May the souls of the faithful departed, through the mercy of God, rest in peace. Amen.

My friend Fr. Finigan has a good explanation of being detached from sin and the disposition you need to gain indulgences.  HERE

Keep in mind that having high standards is a good thing.

Shouldn’t we be free from attachment to sin?  To what degree is being attached to sin okay?

In the final analysis, perhaps we have to admit that gaining plenary indulgences is rarer than we would like.

That said, it is not impossible to gain them.

I don’t think we have to be a hermit living on top of a tree beating his head with a rock to be free of attachment to sin so as to gain this plenary or “full” indulgence.

Also, we do not know the degree to which a “partial” indulgence is “partial”.  It could be a lot.  That in itself is something which should spur us on!

Generally, if someone is motivated to obtain an indulgence, he does so from true piety, desire to please God and to help oneself and others.

When it comes to complete detachment from sin, even venial, few of us live in that state all the time.

Nevertheless, there are times when we have been moved to sorrow for sin after examination of conscience, perhaps after an encounter with God as mystery in liturgical worship or in the presence of human suffering, that we come to a present horror and shame of sin that moves us to reject sin entirely.  That doesn’t mean that we, in some Pelagian sense, have chosen to remain perfect from that point on or that by force of will we can chosen never to sin again.  God is helping us with graces at that point, of course.  But we do remain frail and weak.

But God reads our hearts.

Holy Church offers us many opportunities for indulgences.  The presupposition is that Holy Church knows we can actually attain them.

They can be partial (and we don’t know to what extent that is) and full or plenary.  But they can be obtained by the faithful.

Holy Church is a good mother.  She wouldn’t dangle before our eyes something that is 2 November – All Souls, Octave, Indulgences, and YOU! - **IMPORTANT UPDATE about availability of the indulgences**impossible for us to attain.

That doesn’t mean that a full indulgence is an easy thing.  It does mean that we can do it.  In fact, beatifications and canonizations have been more common in the last few decades and in previous centuries.  The Church is showing us that it is possible for ordinary people to live a life of heroic virtue.

Therefore, keep your eyes fixed on the prize of indulgences.   Never think that it is useless to try to get any indulgence, partial or full, just because

Perhaps you are not sure you can attain complete detachment from all sin, even venial.  Before you perform the indulgenced work, ask God explicitly to take away any affection for sin you might be treasuring.  Do this often and, over your lifetime, and you may find it easier and easier. Support your good project with good confessions and good communions.  You need those graces.

A person does not become expert in worldly pursuits overnight or without effort.  Why would not the same apply to spiritual pursuits? It takes time and practice to develop skills and virtues.  It takes time to develop habits of the spirit as well.

We can do this.  And when we fall short, we still have the joy of obtaining the partial indulgence and that’s not nothing.

So… take that, Luther!

 

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ROME 22/11 – Day 33: Dem bones and ASK FATHER: Third Class Relics

ROME 22/11 – Day 33: Dem bones and ASK FATHER: Third Class RelicsWhen is Roman sunrise?  6:41.  And the sunset, you ask?  Why, it’s at 17:05.  And is the Ave Maria bell at the same time as yesterday?  Yes, at 17:30.

It is the Commemoration of all the Faithful Departed today.   Today priests have their three Masses (though only one stipend).   When the Masses are celebrated continuously, that is without interruption, we priests are dispensed from the Eucharistic fast for the second and third Mass.  Think about it: ablutions.

The proper texts for the Requiem Masses are lovely, very rich.

The Collect from the 1st Requiem:

Fidélium, Deus, ómnium Cónditor et Redémptor: animábus famulórum famularúmque tuárum remissiónem cunctórum tríbue peccatórum; ut indulgéntiam, quam semper optavérunt, piis supplicatiónibus consequántur:

O God, Creator and Redeemer of all the faithful, grant to the souls of Your servants and handmaids the remission of all their sins, that they may obtain by our loving prayers the forgiveness which they have always desired.

Last night at Santissima Trinità dei Pellegrini, there was the display of and then presentation of the parish’s relics.

Coming into church many reliquaries were on the St Matthew altar:

ROME 22/11 – Day 33: Dem bones and ASK FATHER: Third Class Relics

A close up of one of them.

ROME 22/11 – Day 33: Dem bones and ASK FATHER: Third Class Relics

And this is how they were presented, the one just above, as a matter of fact.

Each reliquary was placed on the main altar after being presented.  Here’s what they looked like last night.

ROME 22/11 – Day 33: Dem bones and ASK FATHER: Third Class Relics

Afterwards, Vespers were sung.  When it came to the Magnificat and the incensation of the altar, not only was the main altar incensed, but all the other eight side altars (used!) of the church were also solemnly incensed.  That made for a rather long Magnificat, as you might imagine.   This is the final altar, of St. Matthew.

 

You see members of the Archconfraternity that St. Philip Neri started to take care of pilgrims and the sick.  They are not just into dressing up, as some of the confraternities in Rome (well.. pretty much all of those that survive).  They are actively engaged in works of mercy spiritual (like catechism of children) and corporal (like feeding the poor and burying the dead).

That was last night.

Coming into church this morning, this is what it looked like.

ROME 22/11 – Day 33: Dem bones and ASK FATHER: Third Class Relics

THAT took work. Think about the great love and dedication it requires to do these things, as well as know how.  They are teaching the world about Roman tradition.  These glimpses are important.  To one degree or another they can be done in parishes.

Churches should be living buildings.  The consecration is much like a baptism with exorcisms, anointings, washings, fire given, naming…

Altars should be respected and used.   They aren’t shelves for plants or pictures of the wokened’s latest idol.

The Church’s calendar is a treasure, her traditions precious gifts, all part of our patrimony.

Don’t let them cheat you out of your patrimony.

Wanna hear what the Salve Regina sounds like after Mass?

Hail Holy Queen!

What about this other queen?

White has the bishop pair and dominates the f file.

Black to move.

ROME 22/11 – Day 33: Dem bones and ASK FATHER: Third Class Relics

[I’ll hold your solutions in the comment queue for a while to let others work it without spoilers.  It has been great to see your answers!]

Interested in learning?  Try THIS.

ROME 22/11 – Day 33: Dem bones and ASK FATHER: Third Class Relics

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Speaking of relics….

From a reader…

What type of prayer does a lay-person say to create a third class relic by touching an object to a second class relic?

Nothing.  There is no prayer involved.  Your intention is enough.

And for those who don’t know, a 1st class relic is from the body of the blessed or saint, such as bone, flesh, hair, or perhaps the “ash”.  Sometimes bodies simply disintegrate into something that is like ashes.  Thus, “ashes to ashes, dust to dust”.

A 2nd class relic would be from a possession of the blessed or saint, such has a habit or clothing or a piece therefore.

A 3rd class relic is something that has had contact with a 1st or 2nd class relic.  It is a bit remote, but we Catholic believe in intermediary intercession all the time, right?

BTW… last night, my Rosary was touched to each and every relic involved.

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IRELAND… again.

If I am not mistaken, you probably have more fingers – Capt. Hook included – than all of Ireland has priestly ordinations.

Remember the video of the old jack ass priest saying that he’d rather not have any vocations than priests like these new young guys?

Here’s another reason why there are problems.

Mind you, this is an extreme example, but it does underscore a real problem: a growing divide between priests and bishops. I read a piece the other day about a study with priests about their bishops. It was grim, to say the least, and very sad.

Several readers have written to me about the following. In this case it is about an older priest who still has his head screwed on in the right direction, unlike many of his coevals.

A priest preaches about moral issues. The bishop stomps on him. thejournal.ie

Bishop of Kerry apologises after priest tells mass that free condoms [TO GIRLS] promote promiscuity

Fr Seán Sheehy also told the congregation in Listowel that sex between two men or two women was a sin, as was ‘transgenderism’.

A PRIEST IN Kerry has sparked backlash after telling a mass that sex between two men or two women is sinful and that free condom schemes from the HSE promote promiscuity.

Fr Seán Sheehy, a retired priest deputising for parish priest Fr Declan O’Connor, said during his homily at St Mary’s Church in Listowel that repentance would save people from Satan and his “wiles and ways”.  [Imagine such a thing!]

He also said that Irish legislation took a “lunatic approach” to “transgenderism”.

The Bishop of Kerry, Dr Ray Browne, has this morning apologised for the homily, saying the views expressed were not representative of Christianity.  [Thus, the problems in Ireland.]

Bishop Browne in a statement posted on the diocesan website this mid morning said he was aware of “the deep upset and hurt” caused by the contents of the homilies in question delivered over the weekend.

“I apologise to all who were offended. The views expressed do not represent the Christian position. The homily at a regular weekend parish Mass is not appropriate for such issues to be spoken of in such terms.

[Get this…] “The Gospel of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ is a Gospel of love and ever proclaims the dignity of every human person. It calls on us all to ever have total respect for one another.  [I ask you… is it loving to candy coat or be silent about things that separate you from the love of God and which, if not dealt with, bring you to Hell rather than Heaven?  Is spiritual neglect, refusal to do one’s duty as a priest, show respect to people?  “TOTAL respect” includes the hard styff.]

The statement included three passages from the Bible, including: “Think of the love that the Father has lavished on us, by letting us be called God’s children; and that is what we are,” from the Gospel of John.  [There are other passages.]

’1980s Ireland’
A number of people left the Sunday morning mass in protest. A member of the congregation can be heard shouting at the priest in a video circulating on social media.  [Hardly a surprise after decades of seriously bad shepherding.]

The video sparked backlash on Facebook and Twitter. One person told The Journal that the sermon was “like stepping back to 1980s Ireland.”

Fr Sheehy told the congregation: “You rarely hear about sin but it’s rampant. It’s rampant. We see it for example in the legislation. We see it in the promotion of abortion we see it and in the example of this lunatic approach of transgenderism and in promotion of sex between two men and two women.

“That is sinful. That is mortal sin.”

The mass in question was an anniversary mass and there were children and families in the congregation.  [Anniversary of… what?  A marriage?  In that case, there were probably some younger people there who have never heard anything like this.]

Fr Sheehy also condemned the distribution of condoms to girls by the HSE, which he said promoted promiscuity.

As people apparently left the congregation, he said: “Those of you who happen to be leaving today, God help you is all I have to say. God bless you who are here and worshiping God. God bless all of you.”

Fr Sheehy, who returned to Kerry from Baton Rouge in Louisiana in the US in 2007, has previously made the news after outcry when he shook hands and gave a character reference for convicted sex offender Danny Foley of Listowel, in Tralee Circuit Court in 2009.  [I don’t know anything about that case, but I do know that many Catholics … catholics … have a “one strike” attitude. They don’t really believes that a sinner can ever repent.  Donatists at heart.  Conversion?  Repentance?  Pffft.]

Then Bishop of Kerry Dr Bill Murphy distanced himself from his actions.

Sometimes the Church is accused of focusing on sexual sins too much.  It is said, correctly, that there are more serious sins.  While this is true, sexual sins by and large are mortal sins.   If there are more serious mortal sins, such as those of malice and pride, etc., that doesn’t make less serious mortal sins un-mortal.  If you are crushed by a bus-size meteor from space, you are dead.  If you are shot with a .22 round and you die, you are dead.  If you commit a mortal sin of malice and you die in that state, you go to Hell.  If you commit a less serious mortal sin of the flesh, and you did in that state, you go to Hell.

So there’s a reason why the Church tends – or tended  – to stress sexual sins: there are a lot more of them being committed.  And they can pave the way to worse sins yet.

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VIDEO (must see): The Benedictines of Mary are growing and BUILDING

The traditional Benedictine nuns of Gower Abbey, the Benedictines of Mary, Queen of Apostles, have expanded with a daughter house. These are the Benedictines who have made the beautiful music recordings that I feature often in my podcasts. They are building in Ava, Missouri in Ozarks.

A tree is known by its fruit.

One of the things that touches me with this initiative is that it is dedicated to St. Joseph and they are building a shrine for FATHERS.

A New Monastery for the Benedictines of Mary from Benedictines of Mary on Vimeo.

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Your Sunday Sermon Notes: Christ the King (31st Ordinary – N.O.) and for All Saints

Too many people today are without good, strong preaching, to the detriment of all. Share the good stuff.

Was there a GOOD point made in the sermon you heard at your Mass of obligation for the the Vetus Ordo Feast of Christ the King (31st Ordinary in the Novus)?  

And also the Feast of All Saints?

Tell about attendance especially for the Traditional Latin Mass.  I hear that it is growing.  Of COURSE.

Any local changes or (hopefully good) news?

I had some thoughts about the Feast of Christ the King HERE.

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Stupidity on stilts

The claim is made by hyperpapalists and the Vatican II Calf extremists that the Vetus Ordo is antithetical to the “spirit” of the Council and that the Novus Ordo is the true manifestation of that “spirit”.

Is it?

Meanwhile, in Rome at the “traditional” parish where the Vetus Ordo is used, we have this.  They do this at the beginning of each month and they also regularly have meals to feed the poor.

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ROME 22/10 – Day 32: Silence and Solutions

ROME 22/10 – Day 32: Silence and SolutionsOn this Feast of All Saints in Rome the sun rose at 6:40 and it will set at 17:07, earlier and earlier. The Ave Maria is to ring at 17:30. There are 61 days left in the calendar year and 26 days until Advent, which means I have to decide soon about Adventen podcasts.

Today at Ss. Trinità dei Pellegrini, there will be a presentation of the relics that the parish has.

I warmly recommend an apostolate with relics run by a friend of mine, Fr. Carlos Martins, called Treasures of the Church.  Click there.  Look at the schedule and see if he is going to be in your neck of the woods.  You won’t regret going to his presentation.

Here is something that you will see in many Roman sacristies: a sign requiring SILENCE.

ROME 22/10 – Day 32: Silence and Solutions

Sometimes it’s okay to converse, etc., in a sacristy.  However, when Father has to prepare for Mass, neither he nor anyone else around him should be talking in a loud voice to talking to him.  Ideally, Father is saying his vesting prayers and reciting his “intention”.

The classic intention is:

Ego volo celebrare Missam, et conficere Corpus et Sanguinem Domini nostri Iesu Christi, iuxta ritum sanctae Romanae Ecclesiae, ad laudem omnipotentis Dei totiusque Curiae triumphantis, ad utilitatem meam totiusque Curiae militantis, pro omnibus, qui se commendaverunt orationibus meis in genere et in specie, et pro felici statu sanctae Romanae Ecclesiae.

Gaudium cum pace, emendationem vitae, spatium verae paenitentiae, gratiam et consolationem Sancti Spiritus, perseverantiam in bonis operibus, tribuat nobis omnipotens et misericors Dominus. Amen.

I intend to celebrate Mass and to make present the Body and Blood of our Lord Jesus Christ according to the rite of the holy Roman Church to the praise of Almighty God and all His assembly in the glory of Heaven, for my good and the good of all His soldiering pilgrim Church on Earth, and for all who have asked me to pray for them in general and in particular, and for the good of the Holy Roman Church.

May the almighty and merciful Lord grant us joy and peace, amendment of life, time for true repentance, the grace and comfort of the Holy Spirit and perseverance in good works. Amen.

Fathers, do you say this prayer?  Say it in whatever language you want.  It is important to have the intention to do what the Church intends with Holy Mass.  Recitation of this intention takes care of this for the priest, because even if he becomes distracted during Mass itself he has the moral intention, established from the onset, to confect the Eucharist and for certain reasons, including the specific intention for which he is celebrating that Mass.

Meanwhile, St. Rita saw the working document for the Synod (“walking together”) on Synodality (“walking togetherity”) calling for “permanent revolution… aggiornamento”.

ROME 22/10 – Day 32: Silence and Solutions

These are puntarelle, chicory shoots, stripped of leaves and curled up in cold water dressed with a “solution” of oil, garlic and anchovy.   This time there was a bit of lemon and it was very good. A must try when you are in Rome and they are in season.

ROME 22/10 – Day 32: Silence and Solutions

Happy people after Mass talking to each other, catching up, making lunch plans.   It must be suppressed, of course, because this is after a Vetus Ordo Mass and, therefore, it is not permitted to be visibly happy in the streets of any city because other people might see them and want to find out more.  Double Plus Ungood.

ROME 22/10 – Day 32: Silence and Solutions

Black has a lone pawn.  White’s king is far away.  The bishops are eyeing each other… as they do.  The king is a fighting piece in the end game.  White is up a piece but that knight is badly placed.

Solve it.  Black to move.

ROME 22/10 – Day 32: Silence and Solutions

How about some wine from the traditional Benedictine monks of Le Barroux for your Thanksgiving meal? Use the code FATHERZ10 and get 10% off.

ROME 22/10 – Day 32: Silence and Solutions

BTW… you could sip wine and improve your chess game with Remote Chess Academy. Try THIS.

And because it is beautiful.

ROME 22/10 – Day 32: Silence and Solutions

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