St. Monnica: “put my body anywhere”

Here is an oldie post, appropriate for the day:

Today in newer, Ordinary Form calendar of the Holy Roman Church is the feast of St. Monica, the mother of St. Augustine of Hippo.  In the traditional calendar her feast was back in May.

Her name, which is Punic in origin, is also properly spelled Monnica.

This is the chapel in the church of St. Augustine in Rome where the mortal remains of St. Monica (+387), the mother of Augustine of Hippo now rest.

To the right is a shot of the chapel on the day some years ago when the bones of her son, St. Augustine, were brought from their resting place in Pavia (near Milan) to Rome.

How did St. Monica’s tomb wind up here? 

Here is an excerpt from an article I wrote for Inside the Vatican (December 2004) on the above mentioned event.  I used the alternate (and more accurate Punic) spelling of the saint’s name – “Monnica” (emphasis not in the original):

Most visitors to the Eternal City find it puzzling and wondrous that Monnica’s remains would be in Rome and even more so that Augustine’s should be in northern Italy, or that we have them at all.  How did this come to pass?  Monnica died at age 56 of a malarial fever at Ostia, Rome’s port city, not far from where modern Rome’s port, DaVinci airport, is situated.

After Augustine’s baptism in 386 by Milan’s bishop St. Ambrose (+ AD 397), Monnica and Augustine together with his brother Navigius, Adeodatus the future bishop’s son by his concubine of many years whom Monnica had forced Augustine to put aside, and friends Nebridius, Alypius and the former Imperial secret service agent (agens in rebus) Evodius were all waiting at Ostia to return home to Africa by ship.  They were stuck there for some time because the port was blockaded during a period of civil strife.

As she lay dying near Rome, Monnica told Augustine (conf. 9): “Lay this body anywhere, let not the care for it trouble you at all. This only I ask, that you will remember me at the Lord’s altar, wherever you be.”  She was buried there in Ostia.  In the 6th century she was moved to a little church named for St. Aurea, an early martyr of the city, and there she remained until 1430 when her remains were translated by Pope Martin V to the Roman Basilica of St. Augustine built in 1420 by the famous Guillaume Card. D’Estouteville of Rouen, then Camerlengo under Pope Sixtus IV.  As fate or God’s directing have would have it, in December 1945, some children were digging a hole in the courtyard of the little church of St. Aurea next to the ruins of ancient Ostia.  They wanted to put up a basketball hoop, probably having been taught the exciting new game – so different from soccer – by American GIs.  While digging they discovered the broken marble epitaph which had marked Monnica’s ancient grave.  Scholars were able to authenticate the inscription, the text of which had been preserved in a medieval manuscript.  The epitaph had been composed during Augustine’s lifetime by no less then a former Consul of AD 408 and resident at Ostia, Anicius Auchenius Bassus, perhaps Augustine’s host during their sojourn.

It is possible that Anicius Bassus placed the epitaph there after 410 which saw the ravages of Alaric the Visigoth and the sacking of Rome and its environs.  One can almost feel behind these traces of ancient evidence Augustine’s plea to his old friend sent by letter from the port of Hippo Regius over the waves to Ostia.

Hearing of the devastation to the area, far more shocking to the ancients than the events of 11 September were for us, did Augustine, now a renowned bishop, ask his old friend to tend the grave of the mother whom he had so loved and who in her time had wept for her son’s sins and rejoiced in his conversion?

Looking for a great book on Augustine?  Try this!

Meanwhile, in here is my relic of St. Monica.

May she pray for us, for widows, and for parents of children who have drifted from the Church.

Be sure to pray for the departed.  Pray for them!  Don’t just remember them.  Don’t just think well of them.  Don’t just, as the case may be, resent or be angry at them.  Pray for them!  Prayer for the dead is a spiritual work of mercy.

Finally, I want to remind you of a book on Augustine

REVIEW: The book on Augustine which Pope Benedict would have wanted to write.

I had a note that when I originally posted this, the publishers at Oxford had to have a meeting to figure out what to do because your purchases outstripped their supplies.

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Cri de coeur – “Pape Benoît, intervenez pour nous!”

This came from a friend in France.  While I warmly endorse the sentiment, I’m afraid this might be overly optimistic, that Benedict would intercede with Francis.  That Francis would even bother to listen even if he did!   He’d probably order the water and power to be shut off to Benedict’s house if he raised his pinky finger in open defense of Summorum.


lettre du 26 Août 2021

LE 28 AOUT 2021

SEPTIEME MANIFESTATION

POUR LA DEFENSE DE LA MESSE TRADITIONNELLE

DEVANT LA NONCIATURE APOSTOLIQUE A PARIS

Chers amis

Samedi 28 aout 2021 se déroulera à midi précise et jusqu’à 12h45, devant le 14bis avenue du président Wilson, notre Septième manifestation pour la défense de la messe traditionnelle et de nos prêtres devant la nonciature apostolique en France.

Avec la rentrée nous devrions nous retrouver plus nombreux à réciter pacifiquement notre supplique litanique au Pape Benoit devant la représentation du Pape François à Paris pour lui faire connaître notre refus de voir mettre à mort la Réconciliation et la Paix liturgique initiées par Benoit XVI ?

Pape Benoît, auteur de Summorum Pontificum : Ne nous oubliez pas !

Pape Benoît, qui avez voulu la paix liturgique : Ne nous oubliez pas !

Pape Benoît, qui avez voulu la justice : Ne nous oubliez pas !

Pape Benoît, qui avez voulu un traitement juste et paternel des minorités catholiques : Ne nous oubliez pas !

Pape Benoît, artisan d’unité : Ne nous oubliez pas !

Pape Benoît, qui avez proclamé la liberté de célébrer le Sacrifice de la Messe selon le missel tridentin : Ne nous oubliez pas !

Pape Benoît, qui avez affirmé que le missel ancien n’a jamais été abrogé : Ne nous oubliez pas !

Pape Benoît, qui avez affirmé la liberté de tout prêtre d’user librement le missel ancien pour ses messes : Ne nous oubliez pas !

Pape Benoît, qui avez affirmé que le missel tridentin est expression de la lex orandi : Ne nous oubliez pas !

Pape Benoît, qui avez dit aux curés d’accueillir volontiers et dans la paix les demandes des groupes de fidèles attachés à la liturgie traditionnelle : Ne nous oubliez pas !

Pape Benoît, qui avez libéré les célébrations des mariages, obsèques, messes de pèlerinage : Ne nous oubliez pas !

Pape Benoît, qui avez compris que les jeunes aiment à rencontrer le mystère de la Très Sainte Eucharistie dans la liturgie traditionnelle : Ne nous oubliez pas !

Pape Benoît, qui saviez que la célébration traditionnelle ne peut que rester fidèle et unie à la foi entière de l’Eglise : Ne nous oubliez pas !

Pape Benoît, qui saviez que la célébration traditionnelle ne génère pas de désordres : Ne nous oubliez pas !

Pape Benoît, qui estimiez que l’histoire de la liturgie est faite de croissance et de développement, et non de rupture : Ne nous oubliez pas !

Pape Benoît, qui avez affirmé que ce qui était grand et sacré pour les générations précédentes restait grand et sacré pour nous : Ne nous oubliez pas !

Pape Benoît, qui avez déclaré qu’il est bon pour tous de conserver les richesses qui ont grandi dans la foi et dans la prière de l’Église : Ne nous oubliez pas !

Pape Benoît, grâce à qui la vie liturgique a grandi à nouveau dans l’Eglise : Ne nous oubliez pas !

Pape Benoît, grâce à qui tant de vocations ont fleuri dans l’Eglise : Ne nous oubliez pas !

Pape Benoît, espoir des prêtres : Ne nous oubliez pas !

Pape Benoît, espoir des religieux : Ne nous oubliez pas !

Pape Benoît, espoir des religieuses : Ne nous oubliez pas !

Pape Benoît, espoir des séminaristes : Ne nous oubliez pas !

Pape Benoît, espoirs des laïcs : Ne nous oubliez pas !

Pape Benoît, espoir des familles : Ne nous oubliez pas !

Pape Benoît, intercédez pour nous ! Pape Benoît, intercédez pour nous !

Pape Benoît, venez à notre secours ! Pape Benoît, venez à notre secours !

Pape Benoît, intervenez pour nous ! Pape Benoît, intervenez pour nous !


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In Pittsburgh, they can always hurt you more.

Become a Custos Traditionis (HERE) and don’t forget a Novena to St. Ann (HERE).

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When I saw the letter sent by Bp. Zubik of Pittsburgh to the priests of that diocese, I was so taken aback by its overreach and pastoral stinginess that I had to read it again to make sure I had understood it correctly.

Bp. Zubik – whose mentor was Card. Wuerl, by the way, and in whose honor he dedicated a big new school – repressed all TLMs in the diocese leaving only the one parish in Pittsburgh (to hell with the people who live elsewhere) staffed by the ICK.  He said that at two other parishes there could be occasional Masses but explicitly excluded Christmas, Easter and Pentecost: at one church on the 3rd Sunday of each month at 2PM and 1st Fridays at 7PM and at the other church on the last Sunday of each month at 3PM.

How convenient.

What if Easter or Pentecost fall on the last Sunday?

  • In 2024, Easter is on March 29, in 2027 March 26, in 2029 March 30.  Last Sundays.
  • In 2024, Pentecost is on May 19, a 3rd Sunday.   In 2027, May 16, a 3rd Sunday.

I guess they’re hosed in 2024.

He forbade marriages, baptisms, confession, and anointing.

Anointing!

If you are moribund and you and your loved ones really want you to be anointed with the traditional form in Pittsburgh, the bishop says, in effect, “Too bad.  See ya’.”

That’s not all.  As we know from the Fat Man’s Laws of the House of God:

VIII. They can always hurt you more.

Zubik forbade priests to say the TLM privately.

Ponder that.

The indefatigable Peter Kwasniewski wrote at 1 Peter 5 about Zubik’s insensitive act of oppression proposing exactly what I am hearing privately more and more from US clerics of all orders.

[…]

The abolition of the private traditional Mass is something so evil one can hardly fathom it. That’s what an enemy of Christ and His Church would do. No one but an enemy would seek to outlaw this consolidator of priestly identity, this font of fervent prayer, this haven of spiritual refreshment and copious graces.

Priests would be entirely within their rights before God and Holy Mother Church to refuse to comply with such restrictions or prohibitions (as previous disobedience to unjust liturgical commands has been twice exonerated by the Holy See itself).[2] Priests in the diocese of Pittsburgh or any other diocese that implements a similarly cruel and anticlerical policy should continue to celebrate the Latin Mass and to utilize the other traditional sacramental rites whenever it is possible to do so, e.g., if they go somewhere on retreat, or are visiting trustworthy family and friends.

Yet this watershed might also be a priest’s moment of realization. Could this be a call from the Lord to continue calmly doing what he was doing before, in defiance of a manifestly unjust prohibition? Such a course of action is almost certain to result in his being sacrificed (“cancelled”) like a lamb led to the slaughter. The priest will likely be called on the carpet, stripped of faculties, hung out to dry—because, don’t you know, we have so many extra clergy that we can just afford to retire them early if they don’t fit the mold!

Perhaps it is time for many priestly grains of wheat to fall into the ground and die, so that they may bear a greater fruit of holiness than collaboration with corrupt chanceries would allow. They will quickly find laity who will support them in their needs. More home chapels than ever are being built; the lay faithful are busy preparing for this next phase of resistance to wayward pastors’ attacks on the Church’s common good.

[…]

That footnote is crucial:

[2] It is crucial to understand that, in the Catholic tradition, obedience has precise requirements and limits. For more on this point, see herehere, and here. As St. Thomas Aquinas teaches, an unjust law does not have the rationale of law and therefore should not be followed. In this case, the one who does not follow it is not guilty of the sin of disobedience but rather is to be praised for obedience to a higher law. On the question of whether TC possesses the wherewithal to be legitimate, see my article “Given Its Foundational Falsehoods, Does Traditionis Custodes Lack Juridical Standing?

Let us not forget that disobedience was precisely the modus operandi of the modernist left and progressivists in the Church in their quest to achieve their ultimate goal of reducing the Church to an NGO working for earthly “equity”.  That is how they obtained, for example, altar girls and Communion in the hand.  Disobey long enough, openly enough, and you get what you want.  I recall our canon law instructor smugly talking about establishing contra legem custom.

It could be that, in a couple of years, all this nonsense will be a non question because the diktats will be ignored.

We have to remember that, in the Church, the reception of laws is important.  I have post about that HERE.

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Priest suspended, sent for psychological treatment for celebrating the Novus Ordo in Latin

Today I posted elsewhere something I wrote about before: Moral Injury.

I originally wrote about Moral Injury because I had also, previously, written about how bishops use “psychological evaluation” – the Psych Strike Gambit – against priests to remove them as annoyances and to intimidate others.

There seems to be a pattern.  A bishop calls in a priest about whom there has been some complaint: he seems aloof; he could have issues with women in ministry; he is trying to “turn the clock back”; he moved a chair in the sanctuary; etc.  The bishop says that he wants Father to go to a place like St. Luke’s in Maryland for evaluation.  The priest goes.  He is there for a week or so.  At the end of the stay, he is told that there doesn’t seem to be much wrong with him.  He goes home thinking that that is the end of it.

But wait.  There’s always more.

A while later the bishop calls the priest in and tells him that he received an evaluation letter saying that he has been diagnosed with borderline personality disorder, or some such.  He is told that if he doesn’t go, he will be suspended.  The priest obeys and goes.

Once the priest is there, all his means of communication are taken away and the drugs and therapies begin.  He gets some communication means back later.   He thinks he will be there for a couple months.  Then they hit him with it: “Oh no, you will be here for 6 months or more.”   By the time he leaves, he is different.

As an interesting note, I’ve been told by someone who endured this process that many if not most of the priests in treatment are conservative.  Curious, that.

My Augustinian training pushes me to imagine conversations between bishops gathered in their hotel rooms at a meeting of the USCCB.

Over the tinkle of ice in the glass, one says,

“Hey Bill!  You said you had one of those guys who wants to say the Latin Mass.   Well, over at Libville Fatty McButterpants took care of the whole problem by forcing one of them to go in for evaluation at St. Luke’s. I gave it a try too.”

“How did it go?”

“Well, the first evaluation letter seemed a little thin, if you get my drift.  But after a couple of calls I got one that made it possible for me to call the kid in and bring down the hammer.  He’s off for at least a half a year and the rest are scared ****less.”

“What does it cost?”

“Well, yah, it’s expensive.  Really expensive.  But it’s worth every penny to get rid of these guys. Hey, can I top you up?”

It’s an old technique, of course, one used by Communists.  Anyone who deviated from the Party line must be psychologically sick.  Dissent is a psychiatric problem.  If you don’t agree with, say, every title or jot of the spirit of Vatican II or Traditionis custodes you have a mental disorder.  Perhaps you have “sluggish schizophrenia” as the Soviets called it… maybe the symptoms aren’t showing themselves now… but one day they will.

“Father, you’ve been diagnosed as having a ‘borderline’ condition, stemming from your ‘anger issues’.”

Deviants from the Party line are in need of treatment.  Hence, they get to sojourn at the Church’s equivalent of Lubyanka.

Today I read at Catholic World Report that a priest in Costa Rica is getting the treatment.

Costa Rican priest suspended, sent for psychological treatment for celebrating Latin Novus Ordo

A Costa Rican priest says he has been suspended, removed from his parish, and sent to psychological treatment by his bishop who is angry with him for celebrating the reformed liturgy in Latin and ad orientem.

Fr. Sixto Eduardo Varela Santamaría, who until very recently was the Chancellor of the Diocese of Alajuela, had been celebrating the Mass since 2019 for a community of hundreds of faithful who are devoted to the Catholic Church’s traditional Roman rite, known popularly as the “Tridentine Mass.” The liturgies were celebrated at the parish of San Jose, of which he was a pastor, with the blessing of his bishop.

Fr. Varela and other members of the faithful say that the priest obeyed his bishop’s refusal to grant him permission to continue celebrating the pre-reform “Tridentine” mass, but exercised his right under canon law to celebrate the reformed or “Novus Ordo” mass in Latin, stoking the ire of his prelate and leading to his ouster.

The removal of Fr. Varela leaves hundreds of devotees of the traditional liturgy in Costa Rica without a pastor and without the traditional sacraments.

The country’s episcopal conference declared a total ban on the ancient liturgy last month in response to Pope Francis’ recent letter Traditiones custodes, which imposes restrictions on the traditional rites but does not require their prohibition. However, the bishops also prohibited any practices “proper” to the pre-1970 liturgy, which appears to include the use of Latin as well as the custom of the priest facing the altar with the people. The Church’s ancient repertoire of Gregorian Chant would also be swept away in such a prohibition.

In an audio recording sent to his former parishioners and obtained by Catholic World Report, Fr. Varela said he has been sent to live with his parents for a half-year “sabbatical”, and has been prohibited from celebrating the sacraments in public. He added that his bishop, Bartolomé Buigues, will also be sending him to a clinic in Mexico that gives “psychological” and “medical” care.

“I’ll be going to Mexico for three months to an institute that the bishop has designated so that they can accompany me spiritually, psychologically, and medically – at least that is what the page says of this institute, which is run by the Missionaries of the Holy Spirit,” said Fr. Varela.

[…]

There’s more to it, of course. For example, Fr. Varela has been admonished before…

In 2016, he made headlines in the secular media when he refused to allow a practicing homosexual to act as a godparent in a baptism, applying a rule that has existed in the Church for many centuries, which requires baptism sponsors to be a good example to their godchildren. Although he received no public punishment for his stand, he was condemned strongly by pro-LGBT parliamentarians, and seems to have received no public defense from he episcopal hierarchy.

However, in 2018, Fr. Varela was openly condemned by the bishops’ conference of Costa Rica when he accused the country’s president and other public officials of being “disguised atheists” following their support for the legalization of abortion and homosexual marriage. Despite the president’s anti-Christian stance on such issues, he and other government officials continued to attend the Mass in public and to be given Holy Communion.

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Talk about optics

The other day I posted about the implementation of Traditionis custodes … TC… by the Bishop of San Diego.  In his pastoral care for the most marginalized group in the Church, he suppressed the TLM in the northern part of the diocese.  Then he called for people to find a non-parish location which, in his beneficence, might serve as an out of the way place where the people can’t do any harm to the unity of the Church… because they are, you know, divisive.

I received this today.

Bishop McElroy will be moving the Masses in North County San Diego to the Pala Indian Reservation mission church parish hall. Talk about optics….

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Revisiting “Moral Injury” in light of “Traditionis custodes”

It seems like just moment ago that I revisited the topic of Moral Injury.

But now we have Traditionis custodes.


Originally Published on: Jun 9, 2020 

From a reader…

I am a physician and have had the opportunity to work with several burnt out priests over the years. I am concerned about the emotional well being of priests during the current situation because of a stressor being called moral injury.

This injury comes from a situation when a person cannot take an action that he feels to be morally right, or is forced to do something morally wrong, by the order of a superior. I am concerned that priests are experiencing this as there bishops have prohibited the sacraments.

I am keeping this in prayer but I am hoping by alerting you to this condition it might be get into some hands who are in a position to work with priests with moral injury to at least recognize this reality.

This is very interesting.  I am grateful for the information and tip about “moral injury”. Since I received this, I’ve done some reading and thinking about moral injury.  For example, good starting point summary of main points HERE

Consider this:

WHAT ARE THE CONSEQUENCES OF MORAL INJURY?
Moral injury can lead to serious distress, depression, and suicidality. Moral injury can take the life of those suffering from it, both metaphorically and literally. Moral injury debilitates people, preventing them from living full and healthy lives.

The effects of moral injury go beyond the individual and can destroy one’s capacity to trust others, impinging on the family system and the larger community. Moral injury must be brought forward into the community for a shared process of healing.

In the context of a soul, with respect to the diversity of beliefs and religious perspectives held by those involved with moral injury, consider this:

Moral injury is damage done to the soul of the individual. War is one (but not the only) thing that can cause this damage. Abuse, rape, and violence may cause similar types of damage. “Soul repair” and “soul wound” are terms already in use by researchers and institutions in the United States who are exploring moral injury and pathways to recovery.

One writer defines moral injury as resulting from a betrayal of what is morally right by someone who holds legitimate authority and in a high stakes situation.

For example, priests who really believe in the cura animarum, and who are ordered, bullied, threatened by authority above them to go against what they believe is right and good for themselves and their people.   Application: being virtually forbidden to provide the sacraments to the faithful during the COVID-1984 lockdown.

[…]

In many cases tradition-inclined priests have been treated savagely by their bishops and other priests.  Traditional Catholic have been too.  They have been for years, even for decades, prevented by authority (usually through bullying) from doing what their consciences tell them is the right thing to do.  They are forced, year in and year out, to do what they think is, if not outright wrong, at least inferior to what could be done with a little leeway and compassion.   They are in a perpetual bind, caught between the desire to be a good member of the presbyterate and one with the bishop, while knowing that they can’t stand your “rightful aspirations”, as John Paul II called them.

[…]


I’ve been in contact with priests who are ready to take early retirement if their bishops clamp down on the TLM.  Let the bishop figure out how to replace him in the parish when there are hardly any vocations.  Watch the contributions dry up.

I’ve been in contact with seminarians, and prospective seminarians, who are really anxious, because they think that they are going to be denied their heritage that they have grown up in, many of them, or have come to love.

I’ve been in contact with lay people, parents of young families, who are really concerned about what they are going to do, are worried about their priests.

So much pain for nothing.   Moral injury for nothing.  Particularly because, I suspect, Traditionis custodes is going to fail in the long run.

Who is it again who is causing division?  At least the Motu Proprio made who is on which side clearer.

The fact is only a tiny fraction of Catholics who desire Tradition have any sort of serious qualm about Vatican II or doubt the validity of the Novus Ordo.  This is an artificial problem only in the fever-swamp imagination of progressivists, modernists who think that their goal might be in sight: turn the Church into an NGO.

I invite you all, please, to take part in this Custodes Traditionis project.    HERE

Please give that some prayerful consideration.

Today I read about a US bishop who has forbidden priests to say the Traditional Mass PRIVATELY.

Really?

When you lack the sort of power that bishops have to inflict whatever they want, will to power, you have to use those vectors of power that are open to every believer: prayer, fasting, works of mercy for the sake of opening the hearts of those who are imposing their unnecessary restrictions, so very contrary to the spirit of the Church’s interpretation of law.

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Wherein Fr. Z thanks donors and also makes a suggestion to those who want alternatives

I am so very grateful to my donors, both those who contribute occasionally and those who subscribe to a monthly donation.  Thank you to the “200”‘s!  I am so very grateful to those who send items from my wish list.  The material help is really needed, but the moral support is fundamental.  Your good will and prayers are my daily sustenance.

Every once in a while I get a note from someone about how to send a donation without using PayPal or one of those other services.   There are alternatives which work.

One alternative is to send a check by snail mail to my continuing address on the side bar of this blog.  The mail is forwarded to me.  So, this is going to take a while to complete but it always gets done.

Use your smart phone’s camera.

Another alternative is Venmo, which is pretty spiffy.

Another alternative – and this is for anyone in pretty much every country and currency – is to use Transferwise, recently now know as just Wise… wise.com.

A couple of you readers have sent donations using this method.  It works.  It also has extremely low fees, much lower than most services and the exchange rate is not skewed in the changers favor.

At the present, I have accounts in USD, GBP, CAD and EURO.  I can receive money in those currencies and then retain it as is or transfer it to my US account.   Essentially, I have accounts with banks in the US, UK, Canada, and Europe.  In the UK you can send GBP to my UK account.  In the Euro-zone, send Euros.  There are no international transfer fees that way.    You can also send USD from the UK or USD from Europe or anywhere else.   With a Transferwise …. Wise… account, all you need is my email.    38 different currencies.   I haven’t needed to get an account in Hungarian Forint yet, or Indonesian Rupiah, but I’m open to it.

Today I received some GBP from a kind reader via Wise, which was instantly available and without any fee.  As I watch exchange rates, I could leave those GBP in my GBP account or I could transfer it into USD and send it to my US bank with the fraction of the fee that international bank transfers take and it would need minutes, not days.

Here is an invitation link to start your own Wise account.  HERE

As you can see, if you travel, or perhaps have business transactions in another country, or bills to pay or need to be paid from another country, this could be of big help in eliminating fees.  Also, if you get their Mastercard debit card for your multi-currency account, you avoid the truly horrible conversion rates at ATMs.  The card uses the currency of the place.  If you are in London, it will use your GBP. If you are in Rome, it will use your Euro.  Same card.

How I wish this had been available when I was living in Rome.   I look forward to using it when travel is more possible.  It should save a lot in fees.

 

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