He makes a useful distinction about “clericalism”.
Fr. Z kudos.
Fr. Lankeit also touches on on something that I wrote about yesterday, about priests who force the Mass to their own will, rather than conforming themselves to Mass. He speaks of “Fr. Iscariot”.
Under another post I wrote, channeling my inner Cato, that the “gay lobby” must be destroyed.
The Viganò Testimony is part of its demolition. They will fight back, as Madame Wile E. Lafarge is already doing.
Right now there is a lot of talk of this “gay lobby” in the Vatican and throughout the Church at many levels. It is predatory, corrupt and fixedly set on self-perpetuation. It is hardly to be questioned that demons are wholly involved, since sins like sodomy result in the fixation of demons in the sinners lives and in the places where the sin is committed.
It is, of course, the depredations by homosexuals who have infiltrated the hierarchy which have caused our problems. Clericalism is not the main problem, it’s only a tool of the predator, a useful add on to their “lifestyle”.
One of the readers asked in the combox:
What is the latin for “Gay Lobby”? We need something to go with “delenda est!”
Good question!
First, we have to workout what “lobby” means.
In these USA “lobby” is a kind of political entity, a group that advocates with lawmakers for this or that. However, in Italian, where the term using English words came up, “gay lobby”, “lobby” means something different. Years back, in June 2013 – shortly after the abdication of Benedict XVI – I wrote about that HERE.
In 2013 I wrote:
There is a lot of chatter on the interwebs about the whole “homosexuals in the Vatican” thing.
This has been so obvious to me for so long that it isn’t news. It also makes me angry, and not in a good way. I hate reading or writing about it.
I detest this whole story because I suffered at the hands of these types for decades both in my home diocese and in Rome. And to be clear, they weren’t always liberals. Most were liberals and dissenters, but a few here and there were solidly on the traditionalist side which makes them even more loathsome. But most of them were dissidents and liberals and were well networked. And they were vicious to anyone who was conservative. These evil twisted men need prayers for the shameful way they treat the priesthood and the Church and because they risk the eternity of Hell. If I sometimes seem to have little sympathy for homosexuals – including and especially pedophiles – in the priesthood, that’s part of the reason.
Many homosexual priests and bishops strive to live holy lives, truly. While I still think they should have chosen a different vocation, because I think deeply-rooted same-sex attraction makes it too hard to relate properly to the Church as a priest (much less bishop), they have all the sympathy and admiration I can muster. Their cross must be very hard to bear. If they bear it and die a holy death in God’s friendship, I suspect their place in heaven will be very high indeed. However, when homosexual clerics act in the twisted and underhanded ways the whole “gay lobby” issue points to … they don’t get a pass from me just because our wretched society is blindly rushing like a hoard of lemmings towards a “new normal”.
So, that will color my Latin word choice. I refuse to hear “gay” as anything other than what that quondam happy word is meant to cover up.
What about the Italian meaning of their borrow word from English “lobby”?
In Italian, the connotation of “lobby” is far more conspiratorial and negative.
An American sense of lobby would be “gruppi di interesse” (interest groups). In a more negative sense, “poteri forti” (“powerful forces”).
In Italian “gay lobby” is far darker and sinister than it sounds like to Anglophone ears.
So, I will render “gay lobby” for the sake of completing Cato’s thought as:
Praedatorius grex sodomiticus… delendus.
Censeo praedatorium gregem esse delendum.
I’m open to alternatives.
One that I can think of myself would be to substitute masculine grex with feminine manus, hence, Censeo praeditoriam manum delendam. OR… heh… praedatrix manus sodomotica.
BTW… back to that 2013 piece I wrote, which I reread. Another quote:
[…]
For decades our society has been slowly but surely and purposely shifted by those in control of the mainstream media and entertainment industry. At first, because of the rise of AIDS, active homosexuals were constantly portrayed as innocent, though perhaps quirky, victims. Once the notion of homosexuality was shifted from its moorings and a new status was created in the minds of the public, another shift took place in the media. Now, TV shows and movies are saturated with homosexuals who are far more sophisticated, with it, intelligent, good looking than their more dysfunctional heterosexual counterparts. Victim time is over. It is cool to be “gay”.
For years an artificial sub-culture was carefully crafted and now it is busting out into a “new normal”. [Their next objective is the lowering of the age of consent. Fr. Z in 2018]
But – contrary to popular opinion – human nature and God’s revealed truths have not changed. Homosexuality is not normal. Christ’s priesthood and homosexuality converging is like pushing misaligned magnets together. It can be done, but it requires force. It is no wonder that some of these misaligned clerics do gawdawful things, especially to other clerics. They are out of sorts with themselves at their deepest core. How they must suffer! That suffering will sometimes come out sideways. Homosexual violent crime is often the most brutal and bloody that the police see. Homosexual clerics usually won’t be physically violent. Their conflicts manifest in other ways.
There is an old macaronic-Latin phrase in clerical circles in Rome: homo homini lupus… sacerdos sacerdoti lupissimus.
That phrase bears filling out. It is from Plautus, if memory serves.
In Rome we would say:
Homo homini lupus.
Mulieri mulieri lupior.
Sacerdos sacerdoti lupissimus.
Not real Latin, but it gets the point across.
UPDATE 27 August:
CNN… what a bunch of dopes.
Former Archbishop wants Pope to resign
Newsroom
In a statement seen by CNN on Sunday, former Archbishop and Vatican ambassador to the US Carlo Maria Vigano said he told the Pope about allegations of sexual abuse against high-profile American Cardinal Theodore McCarrick five years ago, but that the Pontiff did nothing about it.Source: CNN
That unbeatable combo of ignorance and arrogance.
UPDATE 27 August:
Wuerl goes on offense. He wants Viganò investigated.
Perhaps the starting point for a serene and objective review of this testimony is the inclusion of Archbishop Viganò’s tenure as Apostolic Nuncio to the United States in the mandate of the Apostolic Visitation already called for by Cardinal Daniel DiNardo, President of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops.
From the Archd. of Washington DC site:
UPDATE 27 August:
Bp. Olmsted of Phoenix has stated:
I have always known and respected [Archbishop Viganò] as a man of truthfulness, faith and integrity. … For this reason, I ask that Archbishop Viganò’s testimony be taken seriously by all, and that every claim that he makes be investigated thoroughly.
UPDATE 27 August:
Matt Walsh at Daily Wire writes:
[…]
A few points about all of this:
1) There are no flattering ways to interpret Pope Francis’ non-denial. Either he is guilty as sin or he has so much disdain and hubris in his heart that he does not think he owes anyone an explanation. I suppose a third possibility is that the man has gone completely senile. But until Vatican doctors testify to the latter option, we are left choosing between the first two or both combined.
Whichever is true, Francis’ answer is shameful. Catholic faithful around the world had already been deeply distressed and heartbroken as they watched their beloved Church gasping and staggering under the weight of cowardice, debauchery, and corruption. Now that the Pope has been implicated, many Catholics have found themselves teetering on the edge of despair. In the face of such scandal and pain, Francis has nothing to offer but smugness. It is disgraceful.
[…]
2) If the allegations are true, Pope Francis must resign. He would lack the moral capacity to lead even a local parish in North Dakota, let alone the entire Church. If he will not resign, then he must be pushed out. The message would need to be sent from every good Bishop, every good priest, and every good Catholic lay person, that they will not tolerate such abuses from anyone — even the Pope. Especially the Pope.
3) But that raises the central question: are the allegations true? They are certainly credible, as they come from a reliable and knowledgeable source and are well-detailed and documented. They have been corroborated by at least one witness and aspects of the story have apparently been confirmed by Benedict. Many of the people implicated are known cowards and liars, so Vigano would seem to have the edge in a “he said/they said” debate. Vigano’s story also sounds reasonable and fits into the overall puzzle. These factors do not remove all doubt, but they do remove a significant portion of the doubt.
[…]
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Originally Published on: Aug 26, 2018 @ 13:37
Some reactions to the Viganò Testimony.
First, Massimo “Beans” Faggioli on Twitter.
There are three popes accused by Vigano’s testimony. One is dead and a saint.
The one who took visible and public action against McCarrick in 2018 is pope Francis.
The rest is a story with many holes, gaps, unexplained delays, and remarkable silences by former nuncio Vigano.— Massimo Faggioli (@MassimoFaggioli) August 26, 2018
Really, Beans. You can do better.
Viganò explained precisely the things you mention.
Few people have more skin in the game than homosexualist activist James Martin, SJ. Vigano wrote quite a bit about the “deviant” wing of the Jesuits, pointing out Martin in particular. If Vigano is right, then Martin’s cred is done. Martin attacked Vigano on Twitter, deleted, but others had it already and re-posted. Thanks, to Thom Peters!
First tweet of @JamesMartinSJ post +Vigano letter release is an attempt to discredit the source: pic.twitter.com/PZhehM8AME
— Thomas Peters (@AmericanPapist) August 26, 2018
A different perspective shows how those around Francis treated people in the conservative end of the spectrum:
Thinking about Fr Manelli, founder of the FFI, who abused no one. Guilty only of embracing Summorum Pontificum and a traditional spirituality. Placed under house arrest. Denied even a visit to his parents grave. Saw his life work dismantled. All the while Francis KNEW (McCarrick) pic.twitter.com/gTbPrfGYbC
— Gary Paul H ?? (@enternoon) August 26, 2018
In the Illustrated Catholic Dictionary, the FFI’s photo would be placed at the entry for “persecution”.
In Italy, I am told, the papers and sites are pretty hot. At La Stampa Andrea “Wormtongue” Tornielli writes (in Italian):
The document again offers, in detail, hearsay and information already circulated for at least the last two months in the antipapal and American and European traditionalist media galaxy, seeking to place all responsibility on the shoulders of the present Pope.
See what he did there?
The fact remains that everyone knew what McCarrick was, including Pope Francis, who had been informed. Pope Francis not only did not do anything about McCarrick, he rehabilitated him.
Il Messaggero, on the other hand, accepts the Testimony. In its story, we are reminded about the financial clout certain prelates, now being defended by Martin, Beans, Wormtongue and the rest, had in Rome. Oh, and there’s the “gay” angle.
A dossier (made known by various blogs and critical headlines about Pope Bergoglio) fell like a lightning bolt on the Pope’s trip to Ireland, … In this Testimony, signed by Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò, ex-nuncio to the USA (who was in his time at the origin of Vatileaks during the reign of Benedict XVI, uncovering a corrupt financial system infiltrated by the gay lobby) there are very heavy testimonies about one of the most obscene cases of coverup of a system of pedophiles, that of Card. Theodore McCarrick, once Archbishop of Washington and munificent financier of the Holy See.
It goes on to mention Wuerl also as a “generous benefactor” for the Vatican. McCarrick founded the Papal Foundation in 1988. Big money.
Nichole of AP, dear Nichole can always be counted on, can be found in the McClatchy paper, the anti-Catholic Kansas City Star. Watch the language she uses.
The National Catholic Register and another conservative site, LifeSiteNews, published the letter attributed to Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano on Sunday as the pope wrapped up a two-day visit to Ireland dominated by the clerical sex abuse scandal.
Viganò, 77, a conservative whose hard-line anti-gay views are well known, urged the reformist pope to resign over the issue and what he called the “conspiracy of silence” about McCarrick. He and the pope have long been on opposite ideological sides, with the pope more a pastor and Vigano more a cultural warrior.
….
The letter also contains a lengthy diatribe about homosexuals and liberals in the Catholic church. It often reads like an ideological manifesto, naming all of Francis’ known supporters in the U.S. hierarchy as being complicit in a cover-up of McCarrick’s misdeeds.
No, no! That’s fine principled reporting! Not an implicit position in it. Nope, objective to the end.
Then she winds up with the old smear stories. That’s the tactic now. Discredit Viganò by reminding people of the Pope’s meeting with Kim Davis (who refused to sign same-sex marriage certificates) and Archbp. Neinstedt, who resigned after not taking care of credible accusations made about priests, but whose TRUE crime was his strong opposition to legalization of same-sex marriage through a change to the Minnesota Constitution.
At the National Sodomotical Reporter (aka Fishwrap) there is nothing yet from Madame Wile E. Defarge (aka Michael Sean Winters) but there is a “news” piece. There is something telling in it:
NCR has chosen not to name prelates identified by Vigano in his report except in cases where the officials were known to be his or McCarrick’s direct superiors or predecessors, due to the inability to corroborate the former ambassador’s account.
No no… they’re not carrying any water for anyone. Nosirrrrrreeeee!
UPDATE:
Madame Wile E. Lafarge has issued his reaction. It is predictable.
It is mainly character assassination and complaining about the focus Viganò gave to Lafarge’s own predilections. That’s surely what set him off. Given Madame’s inclinations, you can understand why he would speak so virulently of Viganò.
He also trotted out of a couple of his favorite words! “Putsch” and “vemon”.
Yawn.
The reactions to the Viganò (pronounced vig-ah-NOH) Testimony vary as you might expect, along “party lines”.
The papalatrous liberal Left, including not a few sychophants of simply stunning audacity, deny everything Viganò wrote. Their main tack right now seems to be to impune Viganò’s character by his role in the case of former St. Paul and Minneapolis Archbp. John Neinstedt.
The more conservative and irritated Right, including not a few filterless exemplars of traditionalism’s chattering Id, are crying for blood in the form of mass resignations. I would warn them of the results of their wishes coming true, given that Pope Francis is unlikely to abdicate and that he would be able then to replace swaths of the episcopate with the help of Card. Wuerl, Antonio Spadaro, Card. Baldisseri, etc. Think about that for a while as you sip your Yoo-Hoo.
I say that the allegations about Viganò’s handling of the Neinstedt case are troubling. There are real questions about his possible effort to squash evidence about Neinstedt’s lifestyle. My suspicion is, if Viganò asked that some evidence be hidden or destroyed, he did that at the request of his own very shady superiors. Does that excuse? No. It might explain. There are questions.
That said, I don’t think those questions – factual or not – outweigh the content of the Viganò Testimony, which stands on its own merits.
And now there is further corroborations of the content of the Viganò Testimony. Corroboration if not elaboration.
This comes today from CNA:
Former nunciature official: ‘Vigano said the truth’
Washington D.C., Aug 26, 2018 / 10:17 pm (CNA).- Monsignor Jean-François Lantheaume, the former first counsellor at the apostolic nunciature in Washington D.C., has said that the former nuncio, Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò, told “the truth” in his explosive statement released to the press on Aug. 25.
[…]
The Viganò Testimony mentions Msgr. Lantheaume throughout, as a witness to what happened.
CNA contacted Msgr. Lantheaume and requested an interview with him to discuss the account attributed to him by Archbishop Viganò. Lantheaume, who has now left the Vatican diplomatic corps and serves in priestly ministry in France, declined to give an interview, and said he had no intentions of speaking further on the matter.
“Viganò said the truth. That’s all,” he wrote to CNA.
Dictum sapienti sat est, is I think how the phrase goes in the farcical play now playing out.
And, Cato like, we must ever repeat: The “Gay Lobby” must be destroyed.
UPDATE:
The Bishop of Tyler, Most Rev. Joseph E. Strickland, has issued a public statement that he thinks The Viganò Testimony is “credible”. HERE
UPDATE:
At Daily Wire, read Matt Walsh
This began as a note under a weekly “Your Sunday Sermon” posts, in which I attempt to elicit from you, good points from the sermon you heard. That post turned into something else. Hence, I moved the text from there to here.
I originally began with the fact that I didn’t have a parish Mass and I had said Mass on my own. During Mass I had a strong sense of how the older, traditional form of Holy Mass shapes and controls the priest. In the Novus Ordo, that’s reversed. All the options make him the boss of Mass, rather than the Mass itself being in control.
Now, more than ever, we priests and bishops need a Mass to which we must conform ourselves, rather than a Mass that we conform to ourselves through options, legitimate or not.
Mass. Priest. Inseparable.
I read those prayers today, which I and countless other priests have read countless times and, in the reading, they went deeper into my marrow.
They told me who I am NOT.
When priests can take all sorts of options, legitimate or not, they are saying who they are and imposing it.
Now, more than ever.
How did we get to where we are now?
About a year ago, I posted about some prayer cards in the sacristy of a Roman church. They were in special niches with kneelers where priests, before and after Mass, would say certain prayers, if possible, recommended in the Missal and included in every Breviary. HERE and HERE
When I wrote about them, I reflected on the deep formation they produced.
Now I also think about the spiritual ripple effects of alter Christus praying these prayers… day in – day out – kneeling near their brethren who were doing the same thing.
Day in. Day Out. Ripples upon ripples upon ripples.
As a young priest, still full of energy, still sort of happy, and without all the physical and mental scars I have by now accumulated, I regularly said those prayers from the back of my breviary. There are wonderful, prayerful reflections for the different days of the week. There is an entire, massive structure to help the priest, day in and day out, raised up and shored up by great priest saints, who knew what we go through because they went through it.
They provided all the help we need. It’s like one of those movies where, to save the Earth, they have to dust off all the old stuff shut away in a massive vault and get it working again.
For most priests, they don’t even know the doors to the vault are there, much less the helpful treasures within.
I have known and I haven’t done enough.
Isn’t that the pattern of life? As we get older, we sense strongly what we haven’t done but could have done.
Motus in fine velocior, and we remember.
Holy Church is the greatest expert in humanity that there has ever been or ever will be.
Mother Church has God’s own support. She built up a treasury so that priests could dip into it and be stronger. Why? So by their strength built in Christ’s strength they could give you the strength only they can give you and which you need for your vocations more than air.
Fathers. It is time. Bishops. It is time.
Aren’t you tired of mediocre yet? Really?
I know. I am wrestling with it.
When I wrote about that niche and those old cards, I was pretty intimidated and a bit ashamed. Now I know why. I was looking at a Cross that Christ offers priests and I didn’t want to get up there on it yet.
So, I was “impressed” by the card and their “cool factor”. I really liked the “idea of it”.
This is part of the temptation of those who tend to the traditional side of the Church.
Do you want it all? Or just the comfortable and fun stuff?
I know some priests whom I must ask that, perhaps, face to face.
And… even harder…
WHY are you doing what you do?
And…
What are you going to do about what is going on right now?
Today, saying Mass, the weight of it all struck me hard.
Push through, past the cool to the content. This is where our identity has been hidden and which awaits us like coals in the ashes at the back of the hearth.
Of all the universes God could have created, he created this one, in which I, born at X and in X place, would be, eventually, nolens volens, a priest. And to gray me there has, by the digitus Dei, been given hardly to be believed advantages through “sheer coincidence”, from my early childhood to the present moment as I type.
But, as I look into the future through the lens of the experience I had at Mass today, I am pretty damn intimidated and more than a little scared.
I am not entirely sure I can do it. Especially because I sense that the Enemy has finally been unleashed.
Is Leo XIII’s “100 year grace period” over?
You need to help us, friends. There are crosses to be carried. Help us to carry them.
There are priests and bishops, whom you know, who KNOW what they have to do, but they are afraid.
Please forgive us. We are only human.
UPDATE:
A priest dropped me a note. There is a “striking” image in it that I must fix in my mind.
Yep. God always wants more, especially from His friends.
Iam non dicam vos servos sed amicos meos. It’s on my ordination card, but I scarcely understood anything of what it meant __ years ago, even at the comparatively old age of __.
The Mass forms us if we let it. Incidentally, this is why Archbishop Lefebvre said he could simply not form priests with the new Mass. He also said that priesthood and sacrifice are transcendentally related. No victim, no priest. Scary indeed. Tremendum et fascinans, even.
Anyway, as St Louis de Montfort says:
“You know that you are living temples of the Holy Spirit and that, like living stones, you are to be set by the God of love into the building of the heavenly Jerusalem. And so you must expect to be shaped, cut and chiseled under the hammer of the cross; otherwise, you would remain rough stones, good for nothing but to be cast aside. Be careful that you do not cause the hammer to recoil when it strikes you; respect the chisel that is carving you and the hand that is shaping you. It may be that this skillful and loving craftsman wants you to have an important place in his eternal edifice, or to be one of the most beautiful works of art in his heavenly kingdom. So let him do what he pleases; he loves you, he knows what he is doing, he has had experience. His strokes are skillful and directed by love; not one will miscarry unless your impatience makes it do so.”It’s hard not to squirm sometimes.
But John 16:33.
The thought of the Cross is worse than the reality most of the time. It’s the only way, especially for us.
I’ll bet that there were some really good sermons during your Masses of Sunday Obligation.
Was there a good point or two you could share?
For my part, I had no Sunday Mass assigned today! I was on my own.
Relaxed day, I thought. God had another plan.
Everything went along as usual. I even had a great supper with a priest friend. A good Sunday.
It was the afternoon when things went sideways for me.
During Mass I had a moment which struck me heavily.
Now, more than ever, we priests and bishops need a Mass to which we must conform ourselves, rather than a Mass that we conform to ourselves through options, legitimate or not.
Mass. Priest. Inseparable.
I read those prayers today, which I and countless other priests have read countless times and, in the reading, they went deeper into my marrow.
They told me who I am NOT.
When priests can take all sorts of options, legitimate or not, they are saying who they are and imposing it.
[Continued elsewhere…]
From an old friend, a hopeful note.
Also, he shows that Catholics can have a sense of humor.
Dear Fr. Z,
Everyone I spoke with after Mass today feels as I and many of your blogreaders do — we are all redoubling our efforts at holiness, including increased fasting, spiritual reading and prayer. Every one I spoke with today. Nobody is disheartened.
Fasting is also good for the body, especially as we age, I hear. I buy frozen Ezekiel bread at the commissary nearby, and the Ezekiel recipe contains all the amino acids necessary for humans. It’s a little cardboard-ish, but tolerable with a little butter or peanut butter.
NAME
(I hope the following isn’t too flippant for serious times, but it’s rather clever, I thought — was sent to me earlier today.)
Today’s “Entrance Hymn”:
On the airplane returning to Rome from Ireland, the Pope responded with a non-response to a question from the press about the Testimony issued by Archbp. Carlo Maria Viganò.
What he said… watch the body language with the words.
“Read the statement carefully yourselves and make your own judgment.”
“I am not going to say a word about this.” (And yet here we are.)
“I believe that the statement speaks for itself, and you all have sufficient journalistic ability to draw conclusions.”
“It is an act of trust. When a little time goes by, and you have drawn conclusions, perhaps I will speak about it, but I would like your professional maturity to do this work. It will do you all good, really.“
In my cynicism – please forgive me for being a little cynical right now? – what the Pope said is along the lines of:
“You, the press, have been on my side till now. If you think about it for a while, you should still be on my side. If you weigh the alternatives you will remember that I am your guy.”
This is not a happy man. But that’s not much of a conclusion. Listen to, however, what he is trying to say.
Here is what I think he said, without saying it.
The Pope is calling on the press to do the necessary work to make this go away.
I dunno. Have I read that wrong? Sincerely… do you get something else from that?
I don’t like these airplane pressers. Please please please stop doing them.
And may I just add that Greg Burke has the worst job in the world?
Today is the anniversary of the 1978 election of Pope John Paul I, Papa Luciani.
He is the Pope people forget to remember.
Pray for him, who was Vicar of Christ for so few days. May God reward him.
It was the Year of the Three Popes. An amazing period in the history of the Church.
Rather like this one?
In his Letter to the faithful of the Diocese of Madison, Bp. Morlino (aka The Extraordinary Ordinary) recommended the observance of Ember Days in September as days of fasting and abstinence in reparation for sin.
He reminded us that “some demons can only be driven out by prayer and fasting”. (Cf. Matthew 17:21)
We are, right now, surrounded by demons, especially demons of sodomy.
From a reader…
QUAERITUR:
Thank you very much the last two podcasts. I found particularly rewarding Father Altier’s sermon and his image of Mother Mary coming to clean the room. [Yeah.. that was great!] I would like to incorporate fasting, as well as rededicating myself to a daily rosary, into my prayer. Know the contemporary rules set forth by the USCCB are not at stringent as they were in former times, can you provide a more meaningful exercise for fasting?
The USCCB’s rules for the Eucharistic fast and for other days of penance are, shall we shall, inadequate for a sound Catholic identity.
We all, I think, should do something along the lines of self-denial in reparation for the sins that have been committed.
What immediately occurred to me was “eat less”. It sounds a little flippant, but, there it is. Or, cut out a specific food you like.
However, a second thought came. For some years I have met a fellow at Acton University, Andy LaVallee, who has developed a “fasting bread” company. He bakes nutritious breads suitable for fasting on bread and water.
I am not sure about what this interesting entrepreneur is up to right now with his fasting breads. However, he wrote a book about it.
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