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  • 30 July 2008

    More wymynpriest pretend ordaination B.S.

    CATEGORY: 06 (2005/06): SUPER OBLATA (2), SESSIUNCULUM — Fr. John Zuhlsdorf @ 3:50 pm

    Annoying, but sadly true.  Here is a story from Kentucky’s Lexington Herald-Leader.

    My emphases and comments.

    Oh… btw… there is a poll at that newpaper site… if you get my drift.

    Be patient…

    Jessamine woman to be ordained a priest
    By Jim Niemi
    Herald-Leader Religion Writer

     As a young girl growing up in Milwaukee, Janice Sevre-Duszynska often fantasized [That places it in the right category.] about becoming a priest while helping clean the sanctuary of the church her family attended.

    “I’d sit in the priest’s chair, go to the pulpit, make believe I was preaching and giving communion,” she said. “I thought, ‘Why couldn’t I be up here?’”  [Make believe is still fun!]

    Now, 50 years later, she will get her wish, but it could come with a price — excommunication from the Roman Catholic church. [NB the small "c".] On Aug. 9, in defiance of the church’s 2,000-year ban on women in the priesthood, she will be ordained [No she won’t be.] by Roman Catholic Womenpriests, an activist group that has protested the ban since 2002.  [Okay… what language is being used here?  So far, its a "ban".  Can’t only things that are actually possible be banned?  Right there is a ban on importing Cuban cigars in the USA.  But it is still possible to smoke them here.]

    Sevre-Duszynska, 58, a Jessamine County resident and grandmother of three, has protested the church’s stance [now its a "stance".] for the last decade.

    In 1998, she disrupted the ordination of a Lexington priest  [classy!] at the Cathedral of Christ the King by pleading with then-Bishop J. Kendrick Williams to ordain her as well. In 2000, she impersonated a reporter [a liar too!] to attend an annual meeting of Catholic bishops in Washington, D.C., where she grabbed the microphone and again called for the ordination of women. And in 2002, she was arrested as part of a group protesting ordination of deacons by the Catholic Diocese of Atlanta.  [and stingy! "If I can’t be ordained, no one can!"]

    “To refer to God only in masculine terms empowers men but diminishes women,” said Sevre-Duszynska (pronounced sev-ruh duh-SHIN-ska). “It affects how women are treated, how their children are treated. We come from God also.”  [This one is a real dinosaur.]

    The church’s position [Now it’s a "position".]

    But the church remains steadfast in its tradition, arguing that it follows Christ’s example of selecting men as apostles.

    “The church understands that in acting this way, Christ was showing his will,” said T.F. Shaughnessy, spokesman for the Diocese of Lexington. “The church does not have the authority to contravene the authority of Jesus.”

    But women do fill key positions in the church, Shaughnessy said. In the Lexington diocese, those positions include director of the Tribunal, the local church court; a diocesan secretary, who reports directly to the bishop; and principals in Catholic schools.

    “Basically, women can do everything in the church except perform the sacraments,” [And exercise juridiction, I think.] Shaughnessy said. “Men and women both have dignity, but we each have roles. ... The most revered saint in Catholic canon is the Blessed Mother (Mary), so it’s kind of ludicrous to say that the church disrespects women.”

    The Vatican reaffirmed its position against women priests in May when it decreed that anyone who participates in the ordination of a woman is immediately excommunicated, meaning that they have chosen to cut themselves off from receiving the sacraments.

    But Sevre-Duszynska, who will be ordained at the Unitarian Universalist Church [Yah…. that’s about right.] of Lexington, does not fear excommunication. She expects it. “I’m really waiting for that parchment from Rome,” she said. [That ineffable gibbet of ignorance and arogance.]

    She became eligible for excommunication [Good grief!  This is this paper’s religion writer?!?] in 2006 when she was [not] ordained a deacon by Roman Catholic Womenpriests. According to Catholic church doctrine, that office must also be reserved for men. Deacons perform many duties of priests, such as baptisms, marriages and funerals, but they cannot say Mass, consecrate the Eucharist [Yah… ‘cause those are really different] or hear confessions. [Or anoint.]

    Sevre-Duszynska believes that Catholicism is too exclusive. “Roman Catholic Womenpriests believe in inclusivity — men, women, married, divorced, disabled,” [aardvarks, potatoes, big scary puppets] she said.

    A priest on the streets

    While she won’t be allowed to lead a parish, [I wonder if she should be allowed out of the house!  Sheesh!] Sevre-Duszynska plans to continue her work as a community activist, a role for which she is known nationwide.

    In 2001, she served a 90-day sentence after being charged with trespassing at Fort Benning, Ga., while protesting that the former School of the Americas, now the Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation, was training terrorists. As she completed her sentence, she was fired from her job as a teacher of English as a second language  by the Fayette County school district for not fulfilling the terms of her teaching contract. [perhaps she was leaving out masculine pronouns?] Her dismissal was ultimately overturned in a series of court decisions. She retired from the district in 2005.

    In 2005, on the 60th anniversary of the U.S. bombing of Hiroshima, she was arrested again, for trespassing at a Nevada weapons testing site[Why violate her rights?  Let her go anywhere she wants there!]

    “My heroes as priests are on the fringes ... they need to challenge the government and the Vatican,” Sevre-Duszynska said.

    Sevre-Duszynska began her preparation for the priesthood 10 years ago with night classes at Lexington Theological Seminary. She is working to complete her doctor of ministry [Oooo … the coveted D.Min!] with Global Ministries University, based in California.

    She is also considering offers to minister. “I’ve been asked to [pretend] say Mass in September at the Catholic Workers House in Washington, D.C. I will consider that,” she said. “I also plan to continue my peace and justice work.”

    She sees herself as an itinerant priest, not a parish priest.  [... okay… I guess I can’t say that…]

    “I’m happiest as a priest on the streets,” she said. “I will [not] celebrate the Mass, I will celebrate [simulate] the sacraments. But I intend to be out there on the streets being a voice for the voiceless.”  

    Sooooo… another posterwymyn for wannabes everywhere!

    Okay… say you find yourself at someone’s home for supper and one of these kooks is there too.

    What do you say?

    What arguments do you use

    a) to counteract the kookiness for those who are listening and
    b) try to penetrate through to reason and snap the loon out of the delusion?

    Take a shot!

    How about, instead of just pouring more contempt on this whole thing (I did enough of that for you already), briefly stating your case?

    • • • • • •

    110 Comments

    1. It’s really pathetic. She looks like a disturbed individual. Tom

      Comment by TJM — 30 July 2008 @ 4:01 pm
    2. Not surprising from the “House of Weakland”.

      Comment by William of the Old — 30 July 2008 @ 4:03 pm
    3. What a fool.

      Comment by Paul — 30 July 2008 @ 4:10 pm
    4. Just a point about women exercising jurisdiction – there seems to be some uncertainty in the canonical world. The law seems clear – canon 274 of the Latin Code establishes that only clerics hold offices which entail “ecclesiastical governance,” and canon 129 states that the lay faithful (of either sex) can cooperate in the exercise of jurisdiction.

      Just what form that cooperation takes is a bit murkier, and whether or not in cooperating in that jurisdictional power the lay person actually exercises jurisdiction is, to many canonists, a debatable point.

      In addition, there is the long-standing practice of members of the lay faithful exercising what appears to be jurisdictional power – the Superiors of non-clerical religious orders (such as the Christian Brothers, women’s religious orders) have some form of authority over their subjects that appears to be jurisdiction.

      I don’t mean to muddy the waters here, since it is clear and apparent that women cannot be priests, but I wish that diocesan spokespeople and others of that ilk would simply, and clearly state that – without trying to soften the blow.

      T.F. Shaughnessy’s, ““Basically, women can do everything in the church except perform the sacraments,” just strikes me the wrong way. First of all, women can “perform” the sacraments – they baptize validly and a bride “performs” marriage to her husband through her act of consent. Secondly, women can’t do “everything in the church,” – they can’t become fathers of families, they can’t enter men’s religious orders, they can’t offer Benediction, they can’t join the Knights of Columbus, and they can’t get the men of the parish to stop drinking beer while they stir the booya the night before the parish festival. Thirdly, it seems to reduce it all to some mere functionality – as if the priesthood were inherently wrapped up in “doing” rather than “being.”

      It would be better to simply state that women can’t be priests – the Church teaches this, has always taught this, and will continue to teach this. Church teaching doesn’t always require understanding – it requires assent. It’s not that women can’t do what priests do, it’s that they can’t BE what priests are.

      Comment by Tim Ferguson — 30 July 2008 @ 4:14 pm
    5. “What arguments do you use

      a) to counteract the kookiness for those who are listening and
      b) try to penetrate through to reason and snap the loon out of the
      delusion?”

      I don’t think any arguments can be used. Maybe asking her how her
      prayer and fasting is going?

      Comment by mpm — 30 July 2008 @ 4:19 pm
    6. What is it about these women and the polyester drip-dry horseblankets? And the HAIR.

      They always look so “New-Agey” – like they’re permanently stuck in the 60’s timewarp.

      Anyone who believes that women are empowered in the Church only by apeing men have serious problems. Women have their own dignity and worth in the sight of God and His Church, but not when they “pretend” to be men. This play-acting demeans the role of women in the Church!

      Comment by Mac McLernon — 30 July 2008 @ 4:20 pm
    7. The way to handle this situation is not to focus on the intellect, but the will. Fr. Thomas Dubay states that relativism is a matter of the will. This lady is choosing to live this way for a particular reason. Maybe its due to past or present “hurt” or sin. Whatever the case, appealing to the will is the way to go. Jason Evert, a Catholic Answer Apologis