VIDEO: Francis and Bishops…. Can we count on you?

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11 Comments

  1. chantgirl says:

    Children, begging their spiritual fathers for bread. This is heartbreaking.

  2. JustaSinner says:

    Now fill St Peter’s Square with a half million peaceful laity praying for the Pope and Cardinals and that they ‘Do The Right Things’…

  3. JerseyCatholic says:

    How beautiful is this video. I liked the line about the TLM being the same all over the world, and by looking at each beautiful young person of all colors from around the world, who wouldn’t want to be part of it? I’ve never even been to a TLM mass and I support it 100%. Someday we will all be unified again, and it won’t be BLM it will be TLM.

  4. Vir Qui Timet Dominum says:

    And which of you, if he ask his father bread, will he give him a stone? or a fish, will he for a fish give him a serpent? Or if he shall ask an egg, will he reach him a scorpion?

    Lk. 11:11-12 (DRV)

  5. Aliquis says:

    God bless the youth who did this, [This is where you ought to have stopped.] but I wish they had omitted Vatican II. It is no coincidence that Trad. Cust. came out as more voices were arguing that the council, and not just its spirit, was bad. I’m thinking not only of Archbishop Vigano but also of Don Pietro Leone’s brilliant series on Rorate Caeli. I think also of Romano Amerio, among others. In his letter accompanying Trad. Cust., Francis wrote: “The path of the Church must be seen within the DYNAMIC of Tradition ‘which originates from the Apostles and PROGRESSES in the Church with the assistance of the Holy Spirit’ ( DV 8). A RECENT STAGE of this DYNAMIC was constituted by Vatican Council II….” (capitalization added) “Dynamic of Tradition”?!?!? Black of white? Francis is preaching a new religion that evolves, a new church that doesn’t possess Truth but keeps on looking for it. I won’t join Francis’ new religion to get his blessing to attend the TLM.

  6. tgarcia2 says:

    “ God bless the youth who did this, but…”

    Always a “but” or something like that. Imagine if they didn’t. I appreciate it for what it is.

  7. Adelle Cecilia says:

    “With the express provision that those attached to this more ancient form re-affirm their submission to the Roman Pontiff, the full teachings of the Second Vatican Council and the validity and liceity of the post-conciliar reforms of the liturgy, I wish to offer the opportunity for this liturgy to continue in the Diocese of Knoxville.”
    – Most. Rev. Richard F. Stika, Bishop of Knoxville (July 21, 2021)

    While I’m very happy that the TLM will continue in the Knoxville Diocese, at least for now, I do wonder:
    1) When would lay Catholics have ever expressed such and therefore be “re-affirming?”
    2) Would not those things be specific to priestly ordination, religious vows, etc?

  8. jz says:

    Can you imagine a bunch of progressive young Catholics (an endangered species I know) making a video like this? They would never do it because in reality they don’t care what the Holy Father or their bishops think. If you’ve already decided that you can pick and choose your Church doctrines, you’ve already decided the pope’s approval is nothing but a nice to have – useful to bash trads over the head when you can get it. Otherwise they just make recourse to conscience as an inviolable domain. The hierarchy is nothing but a useful political tool in this dynamic.

    I’ve been trying to figure out why this thing has me down in the dumps so much. There’s only been one other time in my life when I felt like I just didn’t want to be a Catholic anymore – right when the McCarrick scandal hit. Why is this such a big deal to me? The truth is I care what the pope thinks! Sometimes I wish I didn’t, but I do just like those young Catholics do. I want to be in communion with my bishop. Francis is making me – all of us – choose between two thing we love. Face his constant ire and suspicion or give up traditional worship.

    It’s an unbearable abuse of his paternal authority. An assault upon the Catholic soul.

  9. cathgrl says:

    If Pope Francis does not repent and soften his heart, I envision our Lord showing him this video at his particular judgment, then quoting both Lk 11 and also John 21:15-17. Frightful prospect.

  10. donato2 says:

    JZ I know what you feel as I have had that reaction too. However I’ve not only gotten over being down about this but have now reached a point of joy as I’ve come to realize that there are spiritual blessings to be had as a consequence of what has happened. This whole thing has made me realize that the Church and the traditional Latin Mass are realities that are much greater than, and transcend, any Pope. It has made me come to understand that the traditional faith and traditional Mass are eternal, that they belong to the faithful and are theirs as of right, and can never be taken away from them. I have come to understand the present effort to suppress the traditional Mass as a persectuion that is to be suffered in union with Christ’s perseucution and sufferring. Finally — and this is not option for all but it is for me — I have decided to consecrate the balance of my life to perserving the traditional Latin Mass no matter how tiny and insignicant my support may be. Were the traditional Latin Mass ever suppressed entirely in my diocese (I don’t think it will be) I will move to wherever it is necessary to continue to attend it.

  11. Andrew says:

    In the “be wise as serpents and innocent as doves” – the “wise as serpents” part seems to escape many commentators. A little astuteness might serve us well.

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