The Goat Rodeo Continues: correction of French text of CCC 2267

When the Holy See released the changes t0 CCC 2267 in various language, the French was different from the rest.  While the rest of the languages said that the death penalty was “inadmissible”, the French version said that it was “inhumane”.  That’s quite a difference.  It also reveals the deep dysfunction within the process.

Today I read that the Holy See has altered the French version.  HERE

Le Vatican corrige la traduction française de son article sur la peine de mort

La Congrégation pour la doctrine de la foi a amélioré la traduction française du nouveau chapitre du Catéchisme de l’Église catholique sur la peine de mort.
Plus fidèle aux propos du pape en italien, la nouvelle rédaction qualifie cette mesure d’« inadmissible car elle attente à l’inviolabilité et à la dignité de la personne ».
La nouvelle formulation – en français – du numéro 2267 du Catéchisme de l’Église catholique sur la peine de mort vient d’être actualisée sur le site Internet du Vatican. La nouvelle traduction est plus fidèle à l’italien (mais aussi au latin, à l’anglais ou à l’allemand).

Dans la première traduction, communiquée le 2 août par la salle de presse du Saint-Siège, le dernier paragraphe était ainsi rédigé : « C’est pourquoi l’Église enseigne, à la lumière de l’Évangile, que ’la peine de mort est une mesure inhumaine qui blesse la dignité personnelle’ et elle s’engage de façon déterminée, en vue de son abolition partout dans le monde. »

Or cette citation fait référence à un discours du pape François prononcé le 11 octobre 2017 et adressé aux participants à la rencontre organisée par le Conseil pontifical pour la promotion de la nouvelle évangélisation.

Désormais, la nouvelle formulation rectifiée par la Congrégation pour la doctrine de la foi est plus conforme aux propos du pape en italien?: « la pena di morte è inammissibile perché attenta all’inviolabilità e dignità della persona ».

Inviolabilité et dignité de la personne
La mesure n’est plus « inhumaine » mais « inadmissible ». Et elle « attente à l’inviolabilité et à la dignité de la personne » au lieu de « blesser » seulement sa « dignité ».

Le numéro 2267 du Catéchisme de l’Église catholique est donc désormais ainsi rédigé en français ?: « Pendant longtemps, le recours à la peine de mort de la part de l’autorité légitime, après un procès régulier, fut considéré comme une réponse adaptée à la gravité de certains délits, et un moyen acceptable, bien qu’extrême, pour la sauvegarde du bien commun.

Aujourd’hui on est de plus en plus conscient que la personne ne perd pas sa dignité, même après avoir commis des crimes très graves. En outre, s’est répandue une nouvelle compréhension du sens de sanctions pénales de la part de l’État. On a également mis au point des systèmes de détention plus efficaces pour garantir la sécurité à laquelle les citoyens ont droit, et qui n’enlèvent pas définitivement au coupable la possibilité de se repentir.

C’est pourquoi l’Église enseigne, à la lumière de l’Évangile, que ’’la peine de mort est inadmissible car elle attente à l’inviolabilité et à la dignité de la personne’’ et elle s’engage de façon déterminée, en vue de son abolition partout dans le monde. »

For more on the text, try HERE

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VIDEO Interview: Bp. Gainer of @HBGDiocese about Traditional Roman Rite and vocations

In the older, traditional way of thinking about Holy Mass, when we celebrate a traditional Pontifical Mass, especially at the throne, we perceive the Mass as being the spiritual gathering of the entire diocese in that moment and place in the person of the bishop and his sacred ministers.  This is one reason why there would be present at these Masses, as servers or ministers, members of the bishop’s household or chancery: it is as they were official witnesses to the act, in a manner not unlike the counter signing of documents by a chancellor and notary.

Hence, the celebration of these Pontifical Masses in the older, traditional Roman Rite, I believe, are moments of tremendous blessings for a whole diocese.

I just watched an interview with Bishop Ronald Gainer of Harrisburg who celebrated a Pontifical Mass at the Throne for the blessing of the chapel and cloister of a new group of Carmelites.   He spoke of the link between this form of Holy Mass and vocations.

Tune in at 4:00.

Bishop Gainer Interview – “Don’t Be Afraid Of Holiness” from Jim Hale on Vimeo.

One of the things I really like about this interview, is that the Bishop admits that he wasn’t trained in these solemn traditional forms, but that he relied on the experience of the sacred ministers around him. In other words, he trusted them and went ahead and did it anyway! That’s impressive. He knows Latin but he is learning the gestures and so forth.

Fr. Z kudos!

By the way, the Bishop has recently been in the news, making strong statements concerning L’Affaire McCarrick.

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PODCAzT 164: Open Letter From A Young Priest To Bishops

At Crisis there is posted an open letter from an anonymous young priest to bishops.

It is a cri de coeur.

Where Are the Bishops Who Will Defend Faithful Priests?

I read this letter today, so that it will have greater exposure to those who don’t sit at screens to read.

You should, however, always go to the ever and increasingly valuable Crisis. It is a daily stop for me.

O Almighty and Eternal God, look upon the face of Thy Christ, and for the love of Him, who is the eternal High Priest, have pity on Thy priests. Remember that they are but weak and frail human beings. Stir up in them the grace of their vocation which is in them by the imposition of the Bishop’s hand. Keep them close to Thee lest the enemy prevail against them, so that they may never do anything in the slightest degree unworthy of their sublime vocation.

O Jesus, I pray Thee for Thy faithful and fervent priests; for Thy unfaithful and tepid priests; for Thy priests laboring at home or abroad in distant mission fields; for Thy tempted priests; for Thy lonely priests; for Thy dying priests; for the souls of Thy priests in purgatory. But above all I commend to Thee the priests dearest to me; the priest who baptized me; the priests who absolved me from my sins; the priests at whose Masses I assisted, and who gave me Thy Body and Blood in Holy Communion; the priests who taught and instructed me, or helped and encouraged me; all the priests to whom I am indebted in any other way, particularly N and N.

O Jesus, keep them all close to Thy Heart, and bless them abundantly in time and in eternity. Amen.

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Tradition is about to be totally cleared ‘cleared through customs’

I read this at Messa in Latino in Italian which I share in my translation:

“… I went to the parish to go to confession.

The confessor, in his sixties, asked me, “I’ve been here for almost five years but I don’t think I’ve ever seen you”.

I replied, “It is true, Father, you haven’t seen me because I go to the Shrine of … where every Sunday Mass is celebrated in ancient rite ….”

“I expected the usual rebuke, as happened when I spoke with the Rector of a very famous Marian Shrine.  The confessor told me with great gentleness: “Keep going just like that, my son: that is the true future of the Church! The liturgy of our fathers will save the Church! Keep going and do not give up!”

“Father,I replied, why don’t you celebrate the old Mass as well, since you think so highly of it?”
The confessor: “After my first public celebration, I would be marginalized by my order … but above all I worry that they would will send in a Protestant pastor….  Have patience a little while longer: Tradition is about to be totally ‘cleared through customs’ (sdoganata – legitimized) and the pestiferous confusion that reigns uncontested now will be annihilated. Have faith: Our Lady will help us!”

 

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UPDATE: How I feel right now.

The other day I posted about how I feel these days, through a photo of a Solemn Mass being celebrated in the ruins of a church bombed in WW2.

May I update?

Here is how I still feel. Notice that there is a significant upgrade in my attitude as well as a significant downgrade in the assessment of my surroundings.

Bishop Michael Wasaburo Urukawa offers Mass in the ruins of the cathedral in Nagasaki, Japan – 23 November 1945.

 

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Special message, prayer from Card. Burke for @fatherz readers and others

On 8 August 2018, at the Shrine of Our Lady of Guadalupe near La Crosse, WI, I asked Card. Burke to say a prayer for the Church and for the clergy. Perhaps you, too, would say a Memorare for the Church and her clergy?

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An unsolved priest’s murder and forecast of today’s clerical chaos

Father Kunz in his biretta and traditional Latin Mass vestments, shown with altar boy Mark Nelson. (Photo courtesy of Mark Nelson)

At Catholic World Report there is an article about the unsolved murder of Fr. Alfred Kunz, 20 years ago.

Authorities have some suspects, but not yet enough.

Here is an excerpt from the article which explains why I keep my head on a swivel in Madison… and everywhere else.

Father Kunz was a sign of contradiction; a tradition-minded priest in the shadow of the liberal state capital. He was a 20th century fidei defensor, upholding Catholic teachings amid a sea of post-Vatican-II modernism. He preached the truth, no matter how unpopular. A sharp critic of homosexual corruption in the Church, he worked at the highest levels to expose priestly pederasty in rectories and chanceries. He saw the coming storm of sexual-abuse allegations that would swamp the Church years later and led to more than $3.3 billion in victim settlements and attorney fees in the United States alone. “You will find no justice in the Church today,” he told a friend not long before his death. He worried the pederasty scandals would destroy the diocesan priesthood.

His celebration of the Usus Antiquior, or the Traditional Latin Mass, drew congregants from three states. Even though he also celebrated the Novus Ordo Mass, some locals left for other churches. Kunz had a soft pastoral touch and a generous heart. He fixed up old cars and provided them to his cash-strapped teachers. He took no salary. His sister sent him boxes of socks when his became worn. He ran successful fish-fry fundraising dinners to support his parish and school. A typical day for Kunz started at 5:30 am and didn’t end until well after midnight. In between, he was a whirlwind of activity at church, in school, at diocesan offices in Madison, at hospitals and among his parishioners. His sudden, violent death left a trail of tears that still flows 20 years later.

It is an extensive article with lots of information.

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The sky is crying.

I had an eclectic mix playing and the windows down on my way to the Canon Law Conference that Card. Burke sponsors each year at the Shrine of Our Lady near La Crosse.

As I pulled in at my destination, the words of Stevie Ray Vaughn faded with the turn of the ignition key.  Another, non-Stevie version sings: “Close your eyes and see the skies are falling.”

Right now terrible scandals rock the Church Awake.  Terrible prospects face us.

For example, one popular commentator is calling for, pretty much, the resignation of all the bishops, founded on some informal polling that shows that – and I don’t doubt the numbers of his regular adherents – they are really angry and aren’t gonna take it anymore.

This feels like an important moment in the history of the Church in these USA, never mind the rest of the world for now.  They’ll catch up.  Believe me.

There is an adage from the classical corpus: Iustitia et ruat caelum… Let justice be done though the heavens should fall.  Seneca gives the account of a Roman general, Piso, who condemned some legionaries to death for aiding a deserter to desert.  But when they showed up with their companion, whom was thought to have deserted, the general dug his heals in and had them all killed because he had passed the sentence and, by the gods, he his sentence would stand and justice would be done though the sky should fall.

Some days ago I posted about the consequences of sweeping and dramatic action.  For example, lets say that all the bishops should resign.  Okay.  I’m not saying that they shouldn’t.  However, the ancient chess player awakes and thinks through the next board positions.

One person, ultimately gets to name bishops: Pope Francis.

Sweep all the bishops off the chess board, and Pope Francis gets to replace them.  All. Of. Them.

That’s a consequence.   One can argue if that is a good consequences or a not so good consequence.  But, undeniably, it is a consequence.

Then what does the board look like?

This is in no way to say that there shouldn’t be consequences for bishops who have been complicit in slime.

This IS to say that a) be careful about what you wish for, ’cause you might get it and b) you had better have a plan for what you’re gonna get.

Maybe that is the sort of crucifixion the Church needs.   The Passion had various inexorable stages.  They culminated in unspeakable horror followed by exhausted bewilderment and then the unforeseen discovery of joy.

I’ve been with some of the best and most faithful canonists and civil lawyers that the Church has in these USA for a couple days.   These are great and devout Catholics and they are in pain, but they are people of faith.    Without violating even the slightest privilege of confidence concerning names and places, they have confirmed things that I’ve heard about for years from priests, lay people about the machinations inside the violet/lavender machine.

When some of these subjects come up, you can see the distress in their eyes.  All of them have long term perspectives and faith in the indefectibility of the Church.

We have to have great faith in Christ now.

Do reparation for the sins of our brethren.  Take on some mortifications.

Ask Our Lady Queen of the Clergy to guide us as the sky falls weeping around us.

 

 

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My View For Awhile: Annual Canon Law Conference

Off I went to La Crosse and the beautiful Shrine of our Lady.  If you haven’t been…

The morning fog drifting in the clefts of the hills.

A dear friend, Fr. Ferguson, the official Paradohymnodist of the Blog.

I bought a reproduction of the painting, which hangs on the wall of the Cupboard Under The Stairs.

I had a good long talk today with His Eminence about various matters that concern the smaller and the larger Church.  It was great watching him listen to the talks today.  You can’t tell that he really believes.  Even when fairly pedantic quotes were read, you could see him close his eyes and take them in.

Because I am involved with a 501c3 I was especially interested in this talk on charitable giving, etc.

There was a lot to today.  The best part was THE PEOPLE.  Great laypeople and clerics whom I have gotten to know over the years.  These people are fantastic. They come from all over.

You are fortunate if some of them are from your diocese.

There was a lot of disturbing talk today, frankly.  But there was a great deal that was positive too.  God is with His Church, though it is hard to see.

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The Mysterious Case of CCC 2358 on objectively disordered homosexual inclinations

This is an unusual post.

First, I must preface this that some one sent me information about this recently, but I can’t remember who it was, I’ve looked for the email.  So, someone found this before I did.  I would like to give full credit for the discovery, but I will have to wait until this post shakes the tree.   [Check out the comments.  Some good people have found my probable source.  Although the information might have arrived through a third party.  Anyway, credit where credit is due!]

Next, the change to the Catechism of the Catholic Church 2267 on capital punishment was deeply troubling.

Briefly: It was not troubling because it had to do with capital punishment.  That concerns contingent moral choices about a tiny class of criminals.   It was troubling because it introduced less clarity into a reference work whose very purpose is to bring greater clarity.  The change to 2267 says that capital punishment is “inadmissible” which contradicts the fact that the Church has always taught that it is permitted.  The basis for the change rests on the claim that social conditions have changed.  It also rests on a claim for the protection of the human dignity of the condemned.  However, while 2267 made a global statement about capital punishment being “inadmissible”, social conditions across the globe are uneven.  Also, some might argue that keeping a person in a box like a rat for her entire life without the mortal urgency to reflect and repent is less humane than setting a date.  After all, the Church’s secondary focus considers the exigencies of this life, but her primary focus is salvation of souls and eternal life in heaven.   One could argue that 2267 does not say that capital punishment is “intrinsically evil” which would be a very clear contradiction of the Church’s perennial teaching.  It only says “inadmissible” which, though strong, isn’t the same.  Hence, the change to 2267 is troubling.

It is troubling for another reason.

If this paragraph on capital punishment, then why not other paragraphs?

Capital punishment is not popular in many wealthy countries.  Therefore, the changers of 2267 could relay, fairly safely, on support for the change (by those who didn’t bother to think through the ramifications of changing some teaching in the CCC).

But.. think about this.  The change would also be welcomed by those who think a great deal about the ramifications of changing the CCC.

Furthermore, I found the reasoning in the Letter to Bishops that accompanied the change to the text of 2267 could be used for other issues as well.  You can, for example, substitute some terms and, as I did, argue along the same lines for a change to the Church’s teaching about same-sex marriage.

Thus, I arrive at the deeper point of this post.

Was the change to 2267 was a trial balloon?

Perhaps somebody who really aims at a more controversial change to the CCC is using this as a test case.  A test case or a softening up of the terrain?  A test case, a softening, and an invitation for calls to change other teachings in the CCC, a creation of astro turf?

“But Father! But Father!”, you libs are surely keening as you twist in your shorts, “That … that… that’s loopy even for you, you… you blood-thirsty, xenophobic, homophobic, patriarchal troglodyte.  Doctrine inevitably evolves… er um…develops and, no matter what you blather about ‘always and everywhere and everyone’ and ‘in the same sense’ – ha ha! – you can’t stop it.  It is an inevitable path!  This is the law of history which result in the final glory of societal transformation and peace on earth!   And you have no evidence whatsoever that there is anything going on here other than the loving and wonderful concern for the present life of El Pueblo on the part of those who surround Francis like a phalanx of.. of… a cohort… ummm… a bouquet of … of… …. YOU HATE VATICAN II!”

You know.  You are right.  I don’t have evidence to clinch it.

I do have this.  And I repeat that someone else found this before I posted.  I’d like to give credit.

If you do a search for “Catechism of the Catholic Church” you will be offered the vatican.va official site for the text of the CCC.

Say you want to learn about the Church’s teaching on homosexuality.   Hence, you scroll down to the section on the Sixth Commandment.  Then you click on the section on “The Vocation to Chastity”.

That item has this link: http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P85.HTM

That is the standard format of every other link to the various sections of the CCC on the Vatican’s site.  Note especially that before the P85.HTM there are 2 underscores.

The first thing that strikes you is that this page seems to be “broken” in a couple of respects.  The images for the logo of the Holy See is broken, as are the back and up arrows.  Also, the background is white, whereas the normal background is that dreadful Paul VI Beige that has plagued us since the sites inception.

“Okay,”, you say”.  What does the text say?  That’s the important part.

Here is the text of the paragraph that concerns homosexuality and chastity.  My emphases:

2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God’s will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord’s Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.

The text says that the inclination is “objectively disordered”.

Now comes the really creepy part.

Above, I alerted you to the fact that the link had 2 underscores.

What happens if you remove one of those underscores and then refresh?

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_P85.HTM

Look at this!  The Paul VI Beige background is back.  The logo and arrows are back.  The text, this times, as links for all the vocabulary.

Link a term, like “chastity” and you go to a page that shows every use in the catechism.  Spiffy.

But that is not the point.

Scroll down to that paragraph on homosexuality that we looked at above.

What does the text say?  That’s the important part.

2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. They do not choose their homosexual condition; for most of them it is a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God’s will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord’s Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.

The text is different.

Compare:

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P85.HTM

2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God’s will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord’s Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_P85.HTM

2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. They do not choose their homosexual condition; for most of them it is a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God’s will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord’s Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.

What on earth is going on with this?

On one page of the Vatican’s site, the official link, is the text about homosexuality being “objectively disordered”, but buried… hidden behind that page is another version that says something different.   First, the problem is that it says something different.  Next, the problem is that is says something extremely slippery.

Jesuit homosexualist activist James Martin has said that the teaching in the CCC about homosexuals is cruel.  For example, regarding Martin’s controversial book:

The real purpose of this book is to advocate for a relaxation of the Church’s teaching that sodomy is gravely immoral and that any attraction to commit acts of sodomy is an objective disorder in one’s personality.

Father Martin rejects the teaching of the Catechism of the Catholic Church that the “inclination” to “homosexual tendencies” is “objectively disordered” (2358). He writes:

“The phrase relates to the orientation, not the person, but it is still needlessly hurtful. Saying that one of the deepest parts of a person — the part that gives and receives love — is ‘disordered’ in itself is needlessly cruel” (pp. 46-47).

So, what would Martin change in CCC 2358 if he could?  This is what he says at Jesuit-run American Magazine.  My emphases:

To that end, it’s important to state that in the eyes of the church simply being gay or lesbian is not a sin—contrary to widespread belief, even among educated Catholics. That may be one of the most poorly understood of the church’s teachings. Regularly I am asked questions like, “Isn’t it a sin to be gay?” But this is not church teaching. Nowhere in the catechism does it say that simply being homosexual is a sin. As any reputable psychologist or psychiatrists will agree, people do not choose to be born with any particular sexual orientation.

But when most people ask questions about “church teaching” they are referring not to this question, but to restrictions on homosexual, or same-sex, activity as well as the prohibition on same-sex marriage. Homosexual acts are, according to the catechism, “intrinsically disordered” and “contrary to natural law.” (The bulk of the catechism’s attention to homosexuality is contained in Nos. 2357-59.) Consequently, the homosexual orientation (and by extension, any orientation other than heterosexuality) is regarded as “objectively disordered.”

Martin has said that the CCC should say something like “differently ordered”.

What’s wrong with that?  What’s wrong with saying, in the Catechism, that homosexual inclinations are “not chosen”?  That they are merely “different”.  Those approaches suggest that homosexual acts are be natural behavior for “differently ordered” people whom, perhaps, God made to be homosexual.

Here is an interesting point.  Martin has tweeted on this very paragraph and this very discrepancy of text!

Did you get that?   It is not hard to check old editions of the Catechism.  However, let’s think about this.

First, why would the older, abolished text be preserved and why would the newer text be on a broken or incomplete page?

Those who strongly oppose the application of capital punishment will now insist that we have to accept the change to CCC 2267.    The text was corrected.  Right?

However, the text of CCC 2358 was corrected to say that homosexual inclinations are objectively disordered.  Right?   Don’t those who are homsexualist activists have to accept that teaching rather than call for yet another change?

John Paul II called the CCC “sure and authentic reference text for teaching Catholic doctrine and particularly for preparing local catechisms.”

Did you get that last part?   The CCC can be a basis of local catechisms.  The Bishop of Libville is free to teach something different from the Bishop of Black Duck… I guess.  That’s been the result of Amoris laetitia chapter 8, as well, even in the cases of conferences of bishops.

I ask a couple questions.

Could someone explore other sections of the online CCC to see if this same phenonenon exists?

Is there a change that this phenomenon in CCC 2358 presages a change to the Catechism about the intrinsically disordered nature of homosexual inclinations and acts?

Was the change to 2267 a rehearsal?

BTW… the homosexualist group New Ways Ministry has already connected the dots between the change to the teaching on the death penalty and now changing teaching on homosexuality.

I tried the double underscore trick on CCC 2267 and there is nothing unusual.  Also, the unchanged text is still on the Vatican site.

And with the single underscore:

It could be that no change will be made until the new text appears in Acta Apostolicae Sedis.  Right?

Right?

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