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  • 28 May 2008

    Mpls - St. Joan of Arc Church - I don’t even know how to label this tragic abuse

    CATEGORY: SESSIUNCULUM — Fr. John Zuhlsdorf @ 11:21 am

    Remember the Potato Head Puppet Mass perpetrated by Call To Action in California?  Go here, but not on full stomach.  And to think a bishop was involved.

    BUT WAIT!   THERE’s MORE!

    I had mentioned in that entry about the Call To Action stupidity, that I had seen years ago a mystery play in the Cathedral of St. Paul by the "Heart of the Beast" giant puppet troop.

    Lupus in fabula, here they are again!

    At the infamous St. Joan of Arc parish in my home town Minneapolis, one of the weirdest, wackiest, liturgically and doctrinally worst parishes probably on our Mother Gaia, there was a Palm Sunday "liturgy", I am guessing mostly oriented to children.

    Behold, the Palm Sunday 2008 Mass at St. Joan of Arc Catholic Church in Minneapolis.

    Here is the video which I captured, but it got a little squished:

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    If you want to get at what they perpetrators think children should absorb from this "liturgy", and you can check your gag reflex for a while, go to about minute 10:20 in the video for a sort of litany of woes.

    Remember, how we pray and what we believe have a reciprocal relationship.  So, what will all this do to a child’s perception of the Church and himself as a Catholic, over time?

    I know that the former Archbishop, H.E. Most Rev. Harry Flynn tooks steps to clean this place up.  I suspect that the present Archbishop, H.e. Most Rev. John Nienstedt will have a lot to say to this community of faith.  I sure would.

    Here are some stills which you can find at Orate Fratres.

    “Around the alter, the Last Supper is prepared as the Jesus mimics Father Jim Cassidy as he performs the Consecration and gathers us for the Our Father and exchanging the sign of peace. Singing “Lamb of God” we share in Communion…”

     

     

    I really hope these people just don’t know any better.

    Did you need another reason why Summorum Pontificum is so important?

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    90 Comments

    1. When I clicked the video it said it was no longer available. They removed it I guess.

      Comment by semperficatholic — 28 May 2008 @ 11:31 am
    2. There’s quite the treasure trove of material to send on to the Congregation for Divine Worship and Discipline of the Sacraments floating around on Youtube. The unbelievably tragic thing about Saint Joan’s is that they’ve posted all of their videos themselves! The Maid of France is weeping in heaven on their behalf.

      Comment by SFCM Organist — 28 May 2008 @ 11:40 am
    3. You can still view it here:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz_hzHW_bRg

      Comment by Joe — 28 May 2008 @ 11:40 am
    4. Thanks for the link; now I am beginning to wonder why I looked at that morbid whatever you want to call it. That just ain’t right! I thank God everyday that we are blest with a pastor, who is holy and obedient.

      Comment by semperficatholic — 28 May 2008 @ 11:52 am
    5. On their website, I found it interesting that under Sunday Mass for the liturgy/music section, they said that they have a range of music from liturgical to contemporary. At least, then, they know that there’s a difference.

      Comment by Thomas — 28 May 2008 @ 11:53 am
    6. I am just dumb founded. Our Dear Lord had to sit through the mess. they could of at leat had the kindness to remove him and repose him eleswhere

      Comment by Fr. Dan — 28 May 2008 @ 11:57 am
    7. This would actually be scary for kids! How bizarre can they get? Let’s pray the new breed of bishops are able to right the ship! God bless! Padre Steve

      Comment by Padre Steve — 28 May 2008 @ 11:59 am
    8. “Forgive them Father for they know not what they do.” This is all I can hold on to after see such absolute insanity. It goes way beyond blasphemy into a whole new dimension. I am in an absolute state of shock.

      Comment by AnnaTrad — 28 May 2008 @ 12:05 pm
    9. It’s no worse than the first Mass.

      Comment by Joe — 28 May 2008 @ 12:10 pm
    10. Oh my, that was horrid. Its even worse than the Call to Action mass. At least that was directed towards adults (who should know better). Its shameful to subject this creepiness on small children. Just shameful.

      Comment by Renee — 28 May 2008 @ 12:16 pm
    11. Pope Pius XII declared “I am worried by the Blessed Virgin’s Messages to Lucy at Fatima. This persistence of Mary about the dangers which menace the Church is a divine warning against the Suicide that would be represented by the alteration of the faith, in her liturgy”

      I believe this video says it all and proves Pius XII prophetic. It also reinforces the fact that our struggle to reinstate the traditional Mass these last 40 years was well worth the sufferings we had to undergo.

      Comment by cascadura — 28 May 2008 @ 12:20 pm
    12. The only things missing are: (1) a proper Deacon – may I suggest the Rev. Mr. Rodgers?; (2) Bert and Ernie Altar Servers; (3) the Romper Room All-Star Choir; and (4) Beanie and Cecil ushers. Seriously, this monstrous sacrilege bears more of a resemblance to a pagan ritual than to the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.

      Comment by John Enright — 28 May 2008 @ 12:35 pm
    13. They have a list of this year’s ceremonies with photos.

      http://www.stjoan.com/erfr.htm

      Do you think it’s all a big joke on us?

      Comment by Ttony — 28 May 2008 @ 12:40 pm
    14. Mercy, why don’t our bishops stop these shenanigans? What do I tell my Eastern Orthodox friends who accuse the Catholic Church of not caring about the liturgy or the Eucharist when such abuses do not cause swift rebuke and corrective action? What do I tell my Protestant friends who tell me what use are bishops if they do not shepherd?

      The lack of pastoral leadership on the part of our episcopacy is destroying the Catholic Church’s witness. Priests who continue to sanction/perpetrate this stuff MUST be disciplined, or the chaos will continue to wreak havoc on our Church.

      Lord have mercy . . . St. Joan of Arc is a PARISH, and it is notorious for the craziness that goes on there. . . can’t anything be done to clean up this great scandal of a parish? Fr. Z, why does this parish continue as it does with impunity?

      Comment by James — 28 May 2008 @ 12:44 pm
    15. Fr Z: “...one of the weirdest, wackiest, liturgically and doctrinally worst parishes …”

      Wow. You were not kidding. On their website, in the community building section, they have a gay and lesiban group section.

      Comment by WDPRSer — 28 May 2008 @ 12:57 pm
    16. Bored, in the one case, we have criticism of something being done that is authoritatively allowed and welcomed by the Pope, by Church Council, and by canon law – and we even have criticism of canon law. In the other, we have criticism of a mockery of the Church’s liturgy that was never envisioned by the Church, is corrosive to Catholic liturgy and culture, and that turns liturgical law and custom on their heads.

      Comment by Jordanes — 28 May 2008 @ 12:59 pm
    17. cascadura,

      Just out of curiosity, where did that quote from Pius XII come from? I’d not before heard anything so direct regarding the matter.

      Thanks in advance.

      Comment by AnAnonymousSeminarian — 28 May 2008 @ 1:04 pm
    18. Joe: It’s no worse than the first Mass.

      I think it is. This is aimed at children.

      Comment by Fr. John Zuhlsdorf — 28 May 2008 @ 1:23 pm
    19. WDTPRSer: they have a gay and lesiban group section

      You know… I don’t in principle have an objection to having a parish based group for homosexuals. I would call it something else, such as “Courage” and keep the program oriented along those lines.

      The problem arises when such an initiative attempts to explain away Church teaching, or resist the Church’s teaching about this affliction.

      But in this video, you hear them lament as an evil a “heterosexist” view. You can hear a whole litany of bad things from about 10:20 on in the video.

      Comment by Fr. John Zuhlsdorf — 28 May 2008 @ 1:27 pm
    20. Regardless of whether or not they know better than to use puppets at mass, how do these people not see how creepy those things are? Liturgical abuses aside, this is the stuff of nightmares. I’m not kidding, I’m sleeping with the lights on tonight.

      Comment by Jayna — 28 May 2008 @ 1:33 pm
    21. I think I saw the elk I hit in Teton NP last summer pass by in the procession.

      My daughter thought it was the Mass of Dr. Moreau. “We are not men; we are not animals; we are nothing!”

      Comment by MacBeth — 28 May 2008 @ 1:39 pm
    22. “Lord of the Dance” was a treasured memory from my childhood in a good Anglican primary school and Sunday school. That has now been ruined for me. Part of the liturgist in me just died…

      Comment by Augustine — 28 May 2008 @ 1:46 pm
    23. It’s hauntingly like the pagan procession in the classic 1970s horror film “The Wicker Man”.

      Comment by Dr. Lee Fratantuono — 28 May 2008 @ 1:47 pm
    24. Fr. Z:

      “I think it is. This is aimed at children.”

      Good point – well taken.

      Joe

      Comment by Joe — 28 May 2008 @ 1:50 pm
    25. Isn’t using clay vessels a grave liturgical abuse by the priest (besides all the other obvious insanity?)

      Comment by Steve — 28 May 2008 @ 1:55 pm
    26. Steve: Do you really have to ask?

      Comment by Fr. John Zuhlsdorf — 28 May 2008 @ 2:01 pm
    27. Struth!

      Comment by Corboy — 28 May 2008 @ 2:03 pm
    28. Wow… you’re not kidding:

      (from the St. Joan of Arc website:)

      “Pride Week Prayer Service: Please join us on Wednesday, June 25 at 7 pm in the church for a prayer service to celebrate and give thanks for the gifts of our Gay/Lesbian/Bisexual/Transgendered community. Celebrate with us in prayer and song – we’ll be joined by guest musician and SJA f