Welcome to another installment of What Does the Prayer Really Sound Like?
Today we will hear the prayers for the 24th Sunday after Pentecost in the 1962 Missale Romanum. The texts for this Mass are from the 5th Sunday left after Epiphany. This is explained at length in a recent article in The Wanderer. I speak all the prayers and readings and also sing the Collect and Post Communion prayers in the Festal Tone.
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If priests who are learning to say the older form of Holy Mass can get these prayers in their ears, they will be able to pray them with more confidence. So, priests are my very first concern. However, these audio projects can be of great help to lay people who attend Holy Mass in the Traditional, or extraordinary form: by listening to them ahead of time, and becoming familiar with the sound of the before attending Mass, they will be more receptive to the content of the prayers and be aided in their full, conscious and active participation.
My pronunciation of Latin is going to betray something of my nationality, of course. Men who have as their mother tongue something other than English will sound a little different. However, we are told that the standard for the pronunciation of Latin in church is the way it is spoken in Rome. Since I have spent a lot of time in Rome, you can be pretty sure my accent will not be too far off the mark.
I deliver them more slowly than I would ordinarily during Mass. But hopefully the pace will help you hear the words a little more clearly.
If this was useful to you, let your priest friends know this resource is available. And kindly make a little donation using the donation button on the left side bar of the blog or or by clicking here. This is a labor of love, but those donations really help. And don’t forget to check out the PODCAzTs!
Pray for me, listen carefully, and practice practice practice.
Nota bene: With the beginning of a new liturgical year at the 1st Sunday of Advent, I will be evaluating whether or not I want to continue to do these audio projects based on the download statistics. Good stats – PRAYERCAzTs – Bad stats – …. cf. Hamlet V.ii.363
“becoming familiar with the sound of the before attending Mass, they will be more receptive to the content of the prayers and be aided in their full, conscious and active participation.”
Nice point. Interestingly, I have four kids, and they are much more bored and misbehaved at a NO mass; at the VO they stare in awe and reverence.
The canard that the VO doesn’t precipitate participation should be firmly put to rest. I am a thousand times more fully active following my missal (and, frankly, by the moments of silence) than when I am watching a big stage production. And now that I can also follow the latin without a missal, I feel that I am participating much more fully than at a NO mass.
Of course, the Priest is acting in persona Christi, and this aspect shouldn’t be downplayed with the idea that we are all just sitting around a table without distinction–we should give our priests a little credit, since they sacrifice so much to be what they are: families and often much better paying jobs, since most priests could do very well in the secular world…
Father, I know your time is valuable and I suspect that these PrayercaZts require a lot of your time. Nonetheless, I think you should definitely continue this project because it is a service that will remain useful far into the future — long after you have finished recording the entire missal!
Since I know that I will not download every PrayercaZt, I will do my part to encourage you by picking a few items off your wish list.
As a DRE, I thank you for these Podcasts. I know many good priests who have not been given the opportunity to learn Latin, either the meaning or the pronunciation.
As a lover of languages, the diction of the language is so important for beauty in the liturgy as well as poetry. Fr. Zundel was one, I am aware of, who referred to the “the poem of the liturgy”.
Thank you for providing a forum for those priests (and laity!) who no longer have the seminarian-like leisure to explore and learn the official language of the Church.
Father Z: One reason for priests to use good clear Latin at Mass is to support active receptivity. Well-enunciated Latin is much more readily \”received\” (and understood) at Mass. This is why I think these PrayCazts are an important new contribution.
Many like me are more at home with read than spoken or Latin. Listening to a PrayerCaZt several times (with open missal in hand) before going to its Mass makes me much more receptive during Mass to the priest\’s spoken or sung Latin (especially if it\’s not as sonorous as yours).
So these PrayerCazts have the potential for a solid contribution to actual and conscious participation at Mass. I hope you\’ll stick with them long enough for the word to get around.
I think you should consider the Podzcasts as an essential part of your apostolate. Consider this miracle: in the Springfield/Cape Girardeau diocese 6 diocesan priests came forward to Bishop Leibrecht saying they wanted to learn the TLM. This is about 10% of our priests. Many of them have little or no exposure to Latin. They can, at their convenience in the midst of covering 2 or more parishes, hear Latin as it should sound. I am encouraging all priests I know who are learning the TLM to do this.
Consider another aspect: one of the priests said that he thought that after the six, spread across the lower part of Missouri from the Oklahoma border to the Tennessee border, started celebrating the Extraordinary form, other diocesan priests would step forward. A very good point. The pebble has been thrown into the water and the rings shall reach the far shore. What you are doing is REALLY IMPORTANT!
Thank you, thank you, thank you!
Thanks, everyone, for the wonderful and thought provoking comments.
They can, at their convenience in the midst of covering 2 or more parishes, hear Latin as it should sound.
May I suggest, folks that you do as I do. Namely, don’t just listen to these PrayerCazts yourself. Instead, download them to your hard drive, then burn CD’s to give your priests always on the go, too busy to do this for themselves, so they can listen to them as they drive from one of their parishes to another (with nothing else to do while driving).
Please keep the Sunday Latin Class. I know priests and seminarians who rely on it every week. Thank you for all your hard work.
I appreciate very much the recordings. I am learning the Ancient Mass when I have time; it may be a few years before I am a pastor and can work it into the parish, so having these recordings at hand will prove immensely useful, now, and especially then.
P.S. – Why do you not record the ‘Solemn Tone’ anymore. It is beautiful!
Kindly continue your wonderful work here, as it has been most enlightening to me and, for the most part, has been a blessing in the learning of ecclesiastical latin; if not for popular demand, then for charity.
Thanks and God Continue to Bless You!