Another Traditional Latin Mass cancelled! Happy New Year! – UPDATED… sad

Happy New Year!

UPDATE:

I received this note from a reader:

Father:

They early didn’t fully explain the origin of this Mass.

It was one of the first 2 authorized under Quattuor abhinc annos.

Canceling this one, in some ways, is incredibly significant. It was authorized in response to a letter from academics at Yale and elsewhere similar to the Agatha Christi indult.

It’s the parish I first went to for it when I was as 15. I am 53 now.

How very sad.

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17 Comments

  1. Grabski says:

    It’s like they want loyal Catholics to submit in the most unpastoral way.

    Which does imply that the Bishop of Rome’s game isn’t quite legitimate.

  2. redneckpride4ever says:

    I’ll just leave this here:

    https://sspx.org/en/state/connecticut-0

  3. I have attended this Mass for several years, and I am very disappointed that it is being cancelled. This Mass was always reverent and frequently had great music. I am grateful to the St. Gregory Society for arranging it. For the first half of my life I attended the Novus Ordo, mainly because it was all that I knew in my limited experience, but having found the Traditional Latin Mass I now, of course, have absolutely no intention of “return[ing]…to the Roman Rite promulgated by Saints Paul VI and John Paul II” (Jorge Bergoglio, letter accompanying “Traditionis Custodes”). For the mediocre patchwork of a committee cannot hold a candle to the masterful tapestry of tradition, both in terms of beauty and with regard to creating a feeling of unity with those who came before. So it looks like I’ll be going to St. Patrick’s in Waterbury.

  4. BeatifyStickler says:

    Nice people. Like Jacob Marley’s with Mitres. Nah humbug. Grinch’s indeed

  5. monstrance says:

    How many vocations to the priesthood in New Haven ?
    Archbishop Blair spent time in the Toledo Archdiocese. By the time he left, Church consolidations were in full swing. Vocations at a trickle.

  6. Robert says:

    The St. Gregory Society is where I learned to serve the Vetus Oreo as a high school student, although in its previous church, now closed. It is where I attended my first Pontifical Mass. I am quite sorry to hear this, and feel particularly bad for Mr. Riccio, who kept everything going for decades.

  7. Trad94 says:

    One has to wonder if the plan is to herd the traditionalists into the Ecclesia Dei Orders and the SSPX, then cancel the Ecclesia Dei orders and excommunicate the SSPX. I feel the next shoe to drop (after the 2 year probationary period is up for Traditionis Custodes this summer) might be something like requiring at least one Sunday a month to be Novus Ordo. Next step, the re-education camps!

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  9. jflare29 says:

    I do think it quite odd: Many dioceses have begun creating “parish families” because they lack priests and faithful to sustain regular parish life. Meanwhile, traditional parishes often suffer being closed down, sometimes for rather murky reasons, though they have been growing.

  10. summorumpontificum777 says:

    I was traveling for the holidays and went to mass a couple days ago at an FSSP parish in the city I was visiting. I won’t say what city as I don’t want to add more targets on anyone’s back, but it was a small church in a lower-middle class neighborhood… and it was absolutely bursting at the seams… at their 7th Sunday mass of the day. This is in a diocese in which the obsequious local prelate has eagerly implemented T.C., banishing the TLM from regular parishes. We’re living in a truly absurd situation. Grand diocesan parish churches are near-ghost towns where aging Bob Dylan-wannabes belt out Dan Schutte ditties for a vestigial remnant of septuagenarian and octogenarian parishioners … while faithful Catholic families of all ages and demographics, united in their love of Holy Mass and the Catholic faith, are crammed and quarantined in our ghettos. It made me feel bitter, but I also realize that I am witnessing something unsustainable. The status quo will not hold. The Novus Ordo establishment can’t and won’t run on fumes forever.

  11. Kathleen10 says:

    Do they get bonus points for bringing the axe down at particularly happy times for Catholics? Can’t help but notice the diabolical FS came out Christmas week. Let’s grow up, it’s not coincidental. These Mass-goers find out a few minutes before Mass at New Years.
    Connecticut is a Catholic wasteland and it’s not looking up for the future.

    When Blair goes (toodles!) Archbishop Coadjutor Christopher Coyne (his replacement) will take over. Coyne was recently interviewed by WTNH in Connecticut, which you can read online. His recommendation to Francis was to move the Vatican out of Rome, emphatically he said this, because “Rome is too Roman”. Brilliant, but it tells you the direction. Apparently he’s got ambition.
    It’s coming for almost all of us, most likely, and going underground is only going to make it grow, and grow, and grow. The young people will discover it, because the conciliar church has only made it more intriguing, super. But most of all, because it’s the most real thing there is on earth, totally different from the Novus Ordo. We’ll go to fields or gymnasiums to have it. As long as there are priests to offer it, we’ll find it and go, God willing. There is nothing Rome or conciliar church can do about that except rail. Let them. But I am sorry for people who lose the Mass due to…these people, especially when it has such history and represents so much work and so many contributions. God sees their sacrifices.

  12. mercy2013 says:

    What is the point that our diocesan priests are willing to go underground? I still think it’s going to be a long time. I live in an area several hours from the nearest TLM, which is offered by one of the Ecclesia Dei communities. There are local, diocesan priests who know the TLM and want to celebrate it, but don’t. They are scared to death. Unfortunately, since TC came out, many of them have also been tamed. Even in their NO parishes, where they had been implementing traditional aspects to the liturgy, it’s like their progress stopped in its tracks. Unfortunately, I believe TC actually has had the cooling effect that Pope Francis intended. In the cities where TLMs still exist, yes they are growing. But in semi-urban and rural areas, nope. Now we aren’t even allowed to talk about it. It’s like hush hush.

  13. redneckpride4ever says:

    @mercy2013

    Last rime I was in Lebanon, NH on a Saturday I went to confession at Sacred Heart. An altar rail sat before the sanctuary, and there was no Cranmer table within it, only a high altar. After my confession was done I complimented Father on how wonderful the church looked.

    I have hope for the future despite the challenges we face. Let’s support our good priests no matter what we face.

  14. Imrahil says:

    Dear mercy2013,

    I don’t think a situation where people, priests especially, are under a mixture of scared-of-consequences and after-all-while-he-cannot-validly-command-this-he-is-still-my-superior and thus don’t actually celebrate the TLM is so bad for the TLM’s cause at all.

    It is not a situation we’d prefer, and I do not wish to downplay the inconveniences and sometimes pains it brings for the particular people involved; but as for the TLM’s cause… it is rather improbable, even in mere common-sense psychology, that this cause is damaged when our unbeloved legal guardians treat It as conservative legal guardians of young people would treat a beautiful, flirtatious lady they consider bad influence. As you yourself say, the priests are scared to death and the people hush and hush. That’s quite the PR success, objectively.

  15. Loquitur says:

    I often used to go to a TLM Sunday Mass at a nearby chapel which had its own chaplain. This was sadly shut down some time before TC. It was well attended and the priest was a humble and prudent man. Undoubtedly there were forces at work against it, but I have to be honest that this was not helped by one or two hotheads in the TLM congregation. One in particular held quasi sedevacantist views and was in the habit of going out of his way to harang the local parish priest about anything and everything he felt was wrong with the universal Church. This parish priest was actually a prayerful and caring pastor who made ample provision for confessions and sound devotions, and was introducing elements of traditional liturgical reverence into his NO celebrations. He was perhaps not the sharpest knife in the box, and was instinctively and uncritically loyal to ecclesiastical authority, which in normal circumstances is hardly a fault! I pleaded with this hothead to desist, but to no avail. Inevitably, his views and actions were held to represent those of the whole congregation and the chaplain was, most unjustly, held responsible. In the end, antipathetic forces were able to prevail in getting the Mass shut down. Other places a little further away remained available until TC. Now there is almost nothing for many miles. I only say this as a warning and plea in these increasingly dark times for people not to react into extreme and angry positions or to feed prejudices and alienate those who could still be allies when times are better. Not all NO liturgies are ‘clown masses’ and not all priests are against tradition, even if they may not feel able to put their heads above the parapet just now.

  16. JGavin says:

    Connecticut is not necessarily a wasteland. In the Bridgeport Diocese there are two ICKSP Parishes. St Mary’s in Norwalk continues with the TLM. There is the Sacred Heart Oratory in Redding . Many priests , specifically younger priests are learning and saying the Veyus Ordo. There is not the hostility that I read about elsewhere.
    The oratories seem to be growing.

  17. Archlaic says:

    The inescapable point – as much as I hate to say it – is that the Pope has not only the right, but the duty to ban, extirpate, and anathematize anything which is injurious to the Faith of Christians. Given that the Pope is simultaneously using his power to squelch the TLM while allowing – perhaps one could even say “encouraging – doubt and confusion over the Church’s (i.e. Christ’s, and the Old Testament’s) unchanging teachings on h-mos-xual acts… one could logically (if not inescapably) conclude that by his actions he is teaching that TLM is therefore evil, but the practice of S-d-my good and virtuous.
    What times in which we live

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