From devastation to renewed life.

There is a piece at Rorate from a couple days ago which addresses a massive problems in Italy with paltry vocations, unstaffed churches, and declined church attendance.  They are hitting the pot of strong coffee that we in these USA have been staring at with perhaps more realism.  In Italy, however, much of the infrastructure and the clergy are sustained by the state through taxes.

The Rorate piece starts with a a focus on the area of Tortona, which once had as a bishop, the infamous Bp. Viola now in the “Dicastery” (Congregation) for Divine Worship (who wears Bugnini’s episcopal ring).  He is the clerical side of the team with the layman Mr. Cricket who, under Roche, are trying to kill off the traditional Roman Rite and eliminate from the life of the Church the people who desire it.  Remember, its just as much about the people as the Rite they desire.  They don’t like the people.

The article explains that where Viola was once bishop there is ecclesial devastation.

All over Italy there are efforts to redraw parish lines, consolidate.  This is even going to extend to dioceses.  Italy has quite a few small dioceses, some of them already merged into hyphenated entities.

Here’s the last part of the piece with my emphases and comments.  The mention of Ratzinger is an earlier reference to he prediction about a smaller Church and its reemergence.

A new geography made up of new boundaries is being redrawn, in an Italy of churches that first empty and then close. Man will experience “indescribable loneliness,” Ratzinger warned, and “having lost sight of God, he will ”feel the horror of poverty.”

The structural crisis is also felt outside the circle of diocesan priests. “Of the 43 Augustinian convents of the 1990s, today there are 20 left. There were 230 of us in 1996. Today there are 106 of us left,” explains Father Francesco Giuliani, pastor of the Shrine of Santa Rita in Milan. “We also have the dilemma in our order: put one in each convent and thus give minimal service or rather to come together and close places? I believe that more than organization we should have the courage to call the process by its own name: reduction. And it is better to look straight into the face of reality, without shame, without unnecessary guilt.” [NB…] The patterns of the past no longer hold, just as the traditionalism of the past provided a structure that no longer has the numbers to sustain it, despite the consternation of the faithful who have remained frightened by the changes. [It makes you pound your head on the table.  If what you are doing now and for the past decades doesn’t work… try what did work.  I am reminded of my old pastor Msgr. Schuler upon reading the “new diocesan ‘five year plan’  to deal with the shrinking numbers of priests without doing anything to change their approach toward vocations.  Comparing the situation to the famine in Ireland (apt because Irish clergy with mainly in control), he said, instead of planting different crops let’s all sit around and plan how we are going to starve to death.] “We in the diocese of Tortona,” Fr. Paolo continues, ”like others before us, have raised the issue of giving proper dignity to the liturgies. [Hence, it has been lacking?  Whose fault is that?] With few faithful maintaining the high standard is difficult, there is a shortage of volunteers at the reading during the celebration, [?!?  So what?  What are priests for?] catechists for the children, not to mention the choir that would be an important element of the liturgy and is now a mirage.” [Brick by brick my man.  Look at the enormous success of Ss. Trinità in Rome and other places – even in Italy – where the Vetus Ordo is used.] Father Giuliani also agrees: “Because of the reduction in staffing not all churches are able to hear confessions; [Keep throwing the traditional-leaning men out of seminaries and you get what you created.] rather, it is necessary to join forces.  Just as Ratzinger said, according to whom Christianity will be communities that are no longer large, but small, with an almost family-like flavor, in which people will participate not so much out of duty as is perhaps done today in some cases, but out of true conviction. And we will have gained in quality.”  [GAH!  I remember how, decades ago, the vocations people in LA crowed that its program was a huge success focused on quality of candidatesTheir screening process was so effective that they didn’t have a single man enter that year.]

It still comes back to him, to the young Bavarian theologian on the run from Tübingen, a refugee in the quieter Regensburg from which he looked out to interpret the future. It was from there that he assured the radio microphone, “It will be a long process, but when all the travail is over, great power will emerge from a more spiritual and simplified Church.” The process seems to be only halfway through.

Halfway or quarterway… it’s on the way.  There is a demographic sinkhole opening up.  And where it is worse there is a kind of blinkered lemming-like forward dash to the cliff.

About that last part, “when all the travail is over, great power will emerge from a more spiritual and simplified Church”.

This is what I have been saying.  My recent attendance at the priest’s conference held by the St. Paul Center confirmed it for me through my conversations with priests.  My email confirms it.  Of course the plural of anecdote is data.

As I see it, as the sinkhole swallows larger number because of the unwillingness of church leadership to find a new path, there will remain

When the demographic collision happens, and it will, only the strong and disciplined will survive.

Right now, who are the strong?  Traditionalist Catholics, for sure, and probably also those of a more charismatic bent. Yes, some nasty critters will survive, too. They always do.

Those who are attracted to traditional worship are strong, hard-identity Catholic.  They are young and they are having lots of children.  Also, strong, are those next-generation young people who have inherited a saner and sounder charismatic approach.  They pray the Rosary and attend Eucharistic Adoration.  They are informed and they love the Faith.   Converts are coming into the Church, often from a background that grounded them well in Scripture and works of mercy.  Among seminarians these days still a high percentage are open to or eager for tradition, even to the point where the bumfuzzled swotters on the Left are ringing their hands.  The religious orders still attracting postulants are imbued with Tradition.

NB: I’ll add here that these groups will out of necessity have to work together in a smaller, demographically and financially devastated Church.  There will be frictions, but the fruits could be amazing.  Catholics with a stronger grounding in Scripture, with zeal fueled by the Holy Spirit, on the foundation of traditional worship.  Holy cow.

Some years ago I wrote this.  I trot it out in honor of the anniversary year of the death of the Professor:

In these USA, we as a Church are like band of adventurers on the march towards a long-desired destination.  We have swamps and storms and enemies to face at every turn.  Sometimes we are forced on horribly high and perilous paths only to find tenuous bridges over chasms heading towards tunnels filled with orcs or forests with hypnotic spiders.  The voyage takes its toll on our numbers.

And, soon, a big drop in numbers will result when the inevitable battle takes place.  A heavily-armed force named Demographics is coming at us from the other direction.  We will soon collide.

The number of people saying they are or pretending still to be Catholic will soon plummet.  The number of diocesan priests and religious will shrink as the Biological Solution catches up to presbyterates and orders.

This is the state of the question after decades of both purposeful and systematic corrosion of Catholic identity as well as erosion through neglect and incompetence.  Europe is worse and Latin America is incomprehensible.

When the demographic collision happens, and it will, only the strong and disciplined will survive.

 There are also market forces at work here.  As demographics shift in the Church, lots of people who have written books and speak and teach see what’s going on and they adapt.  I am in no way suggesting insincerity.  They are genuine and they are learning and being influenced by what they learn.  Believe me!  As a convert – and the impact of converts on the Church today is huge – I get it.  And by convert I mean both formal and interior, reverts and those who have had ongoing deepening of the gift they were given from their families.  Conversion must be ongoing if it is truly conversion and not just role-playing (aka hypocrisy). It takes a long time to convert.  As a matter of fact, it lasts until your final breath.  And there is a great deal to discover in Holy Church’s treasuries.

Coming into the Catholic Church, or recommitting, is like coming into a vast store of riches, like finding the hoard hall under Erebor, the Lonely Mountain.  Imagine the time it takes to explore it and benefit from new discoveries.  A small band, converts all in the large sense, enter in wonder.  Some track in one direction in the great cavern and find this or that treasure while others clamber off in another direction.  Eventually, after one awesome revelation after another, they come together again and point and say to each other simultaneously:

“You have GOT to see what I found over there!”

And mutual enrichment begins.

The treasury, by the way, has been guarded by a dragon who wants to keep it away from all of us.

Let’s beat the dragon, claim the treasure, and together build what it can build.

 

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15 Comments

  1. Hb says:

    All I know is when I’m at the Novus Ordo
    It’s gray, blue and white hair. Very few young folks if any.

    When I’m at the TLM, it’s a mix of folks with lots of young families, many of which have more than 2 children.

  2. summorumpontificum777 says:

    I’ve been traveling throughout Italy the last couple weeks, and it’s obvious to me that the Church in this country is on the ropes. Of course, there’s an embarrassment of wealth in terms of gorgeous cathedrals, basilicas and regular parish churches. And there’s still a strong cultural Catholicism that manifests itself in unabashed displays of crucifixes in private businesses and in terms of local festivals centered around saints’ days, etc. But stick your head in the door of nearly every church during Mass, and you’re unlikely to see any sort of crowd to write home about. The Sunday before I departed from the USA, I attended a diocesan TLM in the Southwest of the U.S., and frankly it was day vs. night compared to what I’ve seen in Italy. God bless the TLM parishes/communities I’ve seen in Italy, as they’re undoubtedly doing their best in a hostile environment, but I’m not seeing TLMs packed with young adults and families like I’ve seen in America (and France and the UK). And certainly the Novus Ordo in Italy is doing no better.

  3. Rob83 says:

    We are on round 3 of reduction. Nothing changed in terms of ordinations, but the future mindset isn’t changed much…yet, so everyone is surprised that more closings are coming. All the parishes on the chopping block can put up a plan to stay open…but the hitch is this pretty much means recommending somebody else close.

    What I would prefer to see happen is this – if a parish wants to stay open, and has not produced a priest in at least 10-15 years, it has a year to furnish at least one man from among its ranks under the age of 45 to the seminary with a full pledge toward the cost of seminary. Basically produce a priest and prove you can support him and you can stay open – or else.

    I doubt many bishops have the stomach for this kind of tough love, but it would likely bear more fruit than a process where the primary solution is to argue who should be eaten first.

  4. Not says:

    21 Years ago my 15 year old Son and I went to France. Sister Marie Jean made him fluent in French. All the famous Churches and Shrines were full of tourist. That Sunday we went to a Pius X Mass that was standing room only. We took a wrong turn one day and ended up in the red light district. We started walking up to the next street to get out of there. We stopped at a store front that had a little Chapel with Exposition of the Blessed Sacrament. It was packed. Amazing in the heart of sin was this little store front Chapel, everyone silently praying.

    We have a Priest who taught at the local Seminary. He taught the TLM. More and more of his past students are in Dioceses saying the TLM.

  5. Venerator Sti Lot says:

    Fr. Paolo says, “not to mention the choir that would be an important element of the liturgy and is now a mirage.” I do not know that prescription is possible, but I have seen the TLM chanted a cappella by the priest and two schola members with “proper dignity”, when the circumstances dictated that. If a parish can come up with one person (probably other than the overworked priest) who can chant, others, with more or less musical training or experience – or a good ear – can learn, and so help give “proper dignity to the liturgies.” (I suppose it could be a women’s schola, if the only person who knew how to chant was a woman: or she could teach two men…)

  6. GregB says:

    In Revelation in Christ’s message to the church at Ephesus, He warned about the removal of its lampstand. The demographic sinkhole may be the removal of lampstands. If so, this may be a chastisement.

  7. mburduck says:

    Brilliant post, Father.

  8. BeatifyStickler says:

    We have noticed that joining of the clans in Canada. Places like Our Lady Seat of Wisdom Academy have united a generation of young Catholics together from both the Traditional side and a little more charismatic side.

  9. EAW says:

    Venerator Sti Lot is on to something. A week and a half ago at that Sunday’s Solemn High Mass (we were lucky to have a visiting Oratorian priest who made that possible, otherwise we usually have to settle for a Missa Cantata) the schola was down to just two and it still sounded great. The church is quite large, but has excellent acoustics.

  10. JonPatrick says:

    Hb’s post above describes exactly my transition from an NO parish in Eastern Maine (with exactly one young person under 21) and my current FSSP parish in Eastern Pennsylvania.

    I was thinking about that analogy with the Irish Potato Famine. There are some historians who say that the indifference of the British government to the plight of the Irish was deliberate in order to decrease the surplus population of those troublesome Irish people. It sometimes seems almost deliberate this destruction of the Church, to build in its ruins a new “Synodal Church” modeled on a mainline Protestant denomination, like the Anglicans (who seem to be collapsing even faster than the NO church).

  11. L. says:

    Our diocese specialized in disposing of good Priests and potential seminarians, and in promoting the bad ones.
    It seems so unfair that 1. we have manifold reasons to despair but 2. despair is a sin.

  12. monstrance says:

    Return to what previously worked.
    That would mean a Modernist would have to admit mistakes.
    Has that ever happened ?

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  14. Benedict Joseph says:

    The end of the pandemic of Post-Conciliar Derangement Syndrome has to be on the horizon at some point sooner rather than later. What a grace it would be to see it before I die…how long, O Lord, how long?

  15. TonyO says:

    when all the travail is over, great power will emerge from a more spiritual and simplified Church.

    Great power will emerge because God will not allow Satan to prevail. But the power will not emerge BECAUSE the Church is small, or simplified, or “family flavored”. If that were so, God would not have allowed the Church to become big. But he told the Apostles to “make disciples of all nations”.

    not to mention the choir that would be an important element of the liturgy and is now a mirage.

    I call BS on this.

    It’s brick by brick. I know it is possible, because my wife has done it: taken on a parish that had NO music (after years of desultory, bad music, then nothing during COVID), and built a real music choir. You could say she started with a big bonus – all my (now grown) kids sing Palestrina and Mozart etc. But that’s just an example of the brick by brick: they GOT that way because of years of work and practice and planning and dedication, each kid individually and all of them together. And offering to sing for Confirmation mass, Christmas mass. And so on. It also took God’s grace and His opening doors, and it took prayers requesting exactly that.

    In some places, perhaps a priest cannot expect to build a good choir, because for 50 years their predecessors have actively destroyed the music. But even without any expectation, they can pray and TRY.

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