QUAERITUR: Why so many variations in Mass depending on the priest?

From a reader:

I am a new convert to the Faith within the last nine months, and I am
still in the process of joining the Church formally. As such I’m still
learning a good deal about the Church, her liturgy, etc. One thing
that I’ve noticed that’s struck me as odd is the sheer number of
variations there are within the ordinary form. I’ve seen Priests vary
how they hold the Hosts during consecration, I’ve seen some not even
raise the Host. Then after the canon of the Mass I’ve seen some
variance regarding whether the Priest raises the Host over the Chalice
in front of the people, or whether they just raise them both in
opposite hands, and on and on. Are any of these type of variations
liturgical abuses, or is there *that* much room for variation in the
OF?

Congratulations on your journey into union with the Church Christ Himself established.

In a nutshell, some decades ago in the books for the older form of Holy Mass, what we call the Extraordinary Form, there were clear indications that some “defects” in how the priest celebrated Mass were sins. The Missal said, in black and white, that if a priest did certain things wrong he committed a sin. Furthermore, since the issue of rubrics (the red writing in the Missal providing “stage directions” for Mass) was a matter of moral theology, when seminarians and priests studied moral theology and also how to say Mass, they learned specific ways to do things. There would still be a little variation from priest to priest, but in general every priest in the world said Mass more or less the same way.

Sadly, some seminarians and priests who came out of particularly rigid programs of formation because, if they were on the scrupulous side, fixated on certain details of celebration to such an extent that their concerns for perfection were rather unhealthy. This rigidity in some, tarred the whole clear, precise method and approach to following the rubrics with the same brush. When the chance came with the post-Conciliar reform of the liturgy, the complex web of clear and understandable rules was swept aside. There was no longer any mention of sin in the forward for the newer Missal (Ordinary Form) if someone went off and did his own thing or made up his own words. There was also a terrible antinomian spirit that flooded into the Church through that crack Paul VI famously mentioned as the ingress of the smoke of Satan. There was a wave of wild-experimentation that was utterly at odds with the way Catholics had done things for centuries.

We are still living in trailing edge of the riptide of those times, especially when it comes to priests who went through those wild days in the 60s and priests who were trained by the iconoclasts through about the 80s.

Another problem is that the book for the Ordinary Form describes how to do certain things in rather vague terms. Therefore, variations crop up.  Some legitimate.  Some not.

Happily younger priests are more and more inclined to follow the book exactly, to say the black words on the page and do what the red words indicate. They are happy to take their cue from the older, Extraordinary Form to recuperate a Roman style of celebration consistent with our Latin Church identity.

In short, we are growing out of the silly season.

But we are a long way from consistency from priest to priest (especially those of a certain age) when it comes to the Ordinary Form. It’ll take quite a while for that to happen.

This is one of the reason why we need more and more and more celebrations of Holy Mass with the Extraordinary Form. This is one of the reasons Pope Benedict issued his provision in his document Summorum Pontificum, the “emancipation proclamation” for the older form of Mass.  He thinks that a kind of gravitational pull will be exerted by side-by-side use of both Forms of the Roman Rite.  The growing use of the older, Extraordinary Form will do a great deal to clean up liturgical sloppiness in the Ordinary Form.

In the meantime, don’t let the small variations bother you too much, unless they are simply weird.  And you should also attend the Extraordinary Form if it is available in your area.

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QUAERITUR: Why does the pope say a couple living together is “not excluded from the love of the Church or from the love of Christ”?

From a reader:

Why does the pope say a couple living together ‘married’ without an
annulment of a previous marriage is “not excluded from the love of
the Church or from the love of Christ”? Christ said they were
committing adultery. Mortal sin excludes one from the sacraments
because without repentance the soul is dead to the love of God.

Think about what you asked.

Even though we sin, God loves us and desires us to return to the state of grace. God gives us graces also when we are separated from Him in mortal sin so that we may the easier return to His friendship.

Such a couple may be excluded from receiving the sacraments until they get things straightened out. That doesn’t mean they can’t be members of the Church or that God has stopped loving them.

Holy Church continues to hold the door open for sinners, for the Church never desires the permanent exclusion of any person from a fuller participation in the Church’s journey towards God in heaven. Holy Church asks, however, that they be honest and not receive the sacraments if they are impeded for some reason (read = mortal sin, risk of public scandal, etc.).

When YOU commit a mortal sin, do you think God stops loving you? Do you think the Church slams the door of reconciliation in your face?

I think you need to review a bit.

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Whatever happend to transparency?

Over at the National catholic Fishwrap there is an interesting story about SNAP resisting a deposition.

Whatever happened to the transparency SNAP always demands from everyone else?

Hasn’t SNAP perpetually demanded that every diocese hand over every scrap of paper that has ever crossed a diocesan desk? Am I mistaken about that?

NCR seems to be taking SNAP’s side. What a surprise!

I noticed this line in NCR’s article: “NCR is one of the organizations that may be impacted by the submission of documents, as reporters have been in contact with Clohessy as a source for decades.”

We shall have to watch how this all works out.

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Your checked luggage: where does it go?

Biretta tip to Patrick Madrid, who also flies a lot.  Delta (with which I am … never mind…) has a new app for the iPhone that tracks your checked luggage.  I have used it, as a matter of fact, recently.  I had a flight delay that caused me to miss a connection.  The app tracked my bag, as advertised!

To advertise their app Delta has a video of where your bag goes, from the time it disappears behind the rubber flaps until you pick it up.  They made a case with 6 cameras and sent it from Atlanta to La Guardia in NYC.

UPDATE:

Remember this one?

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The Feeder Feed: Rose Without Thorns Edition

Here is a lovely statue of Mary, portrayed as a Queen, with her scepter of a stem of roses. She was made in about 1350. This statue is related to one in silver given by Jeanne d’Evreux to the Abbey of Saint-Denis in 1339.

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Her scepter is a stem of roses without a thorn.

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The Lord has His bird, probably a dove in this case, rather than His finch.

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But for those of you who want a finch, look closely at this unicorn tapestry.

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Zoom in on the fountain.

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It is probably not a coincidence that the finch is here, since the unicorn to be killed in this series is a symbol of Christ.

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Impossible lunch

I came today to Veselka in the East Village. It is jammed but I slid into a seat at the counter. I am across from the grill where a very competent fellow is doing well. It brings back memories of my first cooking job.

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I dream about their borscht. Fir Christmas they added mushroom dumplings.

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And, ever the optimist, I ordered a sandwich.

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If this wasn’t enough it came with a potato pancake.

Impossible.

It has been fun trading quips with the guys next to me and tucking into this provender. I’ll have to take half the sandwich with me.

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QUAERITUR: simultaneous Masses v concelebration

From a reader:

Canon 902 states that “Unless the welfare of the Christian faithful
requires or suggests otherwise, priests can concelebrate the Eucharist. They are completely free to celebrate the Eucharist individually, however, but not while a concelebration is taking place in the same church or oratory.”

So how is this to apply in Traditional Simultaneous Masses?

Simultaneous Masses (EF or OF) seem to be licit under can. 902, as long as one of the simultaneous Masses is not being concelebrated.

Since concelebration is pretty unlikely in the Extraordinary Form, let a hundred simultaneous TLMs blossom! Let a hundred priests discourse over Mystic Monk Coffee afterwards!  (Fathers, refresh your coffee supply now!)

I’m not sure how this “no simultaneous Mass where there is a concelebration” is squared with the common practice in, particularly, St. Peter’s Basilica, in Rome.  In St. Peter’s and other pilgrimage places, individual priests are celebrate Mass at one altar simultaneously as another Mass is being concelebrated at the next altar over. There may be some sort of a dispensation or particular law governing St. Peter’s, St. Mary Major, etc.. Otherwise, those in charge are just bowing to the obvious and ignoring a silly canon.

What I strongly object to is any pressure on priests to concelebrate or any fisheye if they choose not to.  Sometimes even priests who should know better get obnoxious about this point.

Concelebration should be safe, legal and rare.

Let there be Masses!  Masses, I say, many and simultaneous!

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Detroit: New orchestral Mass premiered at Assumption Grotto, composed by the parish priest!

I posted about the comments made by Msgr. Miserachs-Grau about the state of sacred music. Now I would like to share something about a friend of mine Fr. Eduard Perrone at the great Assumption Grotto parish in Detroit. He is a music and composer. This is from the Freep:

Assumption Grotto: Pastor creates music for mass, lifts spirits at vulnerable parish
Dec. 28, 2011

The Rev. Eduard Perrone, while on vacation last summer at his mother’s home in Warren, awoke from an afternoon nap with a melody in his head. He scribbled it down before he forgot it.

Over the next few days, more musical ideas popped into his mind, often after he woke up.

That was the start of what has turned into a full orchestral piece for Catholic mass, a 30-minute composition being performed for the first time this holiday season. It’s rare for a full-time priest to compose his own music for mass, but for Perrone, 63, it fit well with his role as pastor at Assumption Grotto, a historic Detroit church with a rich musical history.

Called “Fountain of Beauty,” Perrone’s composition is dedicated to the mother of Jesus.

“It’s my belief that the Virgin Mary is the most beautiful of all God’s creatures,” Perrone said.

Divided into six parts, the piece is written for a 65-member choir and 38 musicians, some of whom are professionals with the Detroit Symphony Orchestra and Michigan Opera Theatre. On Dec. 21, it was performed for the first time with the full orchestra during a rehearsal under the neo-Gothic arches of the majestic church.

“That was stunning, Father,” Diane Korzeniewski, a choir member and member of the church, said after the rehearsal.

Unifying the parish
Born to parents who were both musicians, Perrone learned music at Cass Tech High School and at a now-closed school in the Detroit archdiocese that taught church music. He learned piano, organ and Gregorian chanting.

But his heart was set on a higher calling.

“I felt being a priest would be the greatest thing I could do in my life,” he said after practice inside the sacristy, the room where items used for services are kept.

For years, he said, “I dropped (music) entirely.”

But after becoming pastor at Assumption Grotto in 1994, Perrone was encouraged to renew his love of music. The church’s outstanding acoustics, its pipe organ and an eager choir were a good fit for his interests. He often conducted classical music and put together musical performances of popular Broadway shows like “My Fair Lady.”

“It was a great unifying thing for the parish,” Perrone said.

A couple of years ago, parishioners asked him: “Why don’t you write a mass?”

At first, Perrone dismissed the idea. But in July, while on vacation, the music came to him.

“I’m sleeping in bed, and then I hear a melody,” he said. “One after the other, the ideas came.”

A reason to keep going

Perrone’s efforts come at a time of change for historic churches such as his in the Archdiocese of Detroit.

Started in 1830, Assumption Grotto is one of the oldest parishes in Detroit. It continues to attract a lot of Catholics, especially since it still offers the old, traditional Latin mass, also known as Tridentine mass. But it’s in a rough area on Detroit’s east side that doesn’t have too many remaining Catholics.

In November, a committee recommended it be merged with another church and closed down in the future if Perrone retires and a replacement is not found.

But to parishioners such as Korzeniewski, the orchestral mass Perrone composed is one of many reasons the church should be kept alive. Orchestral masses have a long history in Western classical music, with many noted composers — Mozart, Schubert and Haydn included — creating them.

“Where else do you get this — a Catholic pastor conducting a mass he created?” Korzeniewski asked.

Many Catholic churches have guitar and piano music, but few offer the classical musical tradition that Assumption does, with Gregorian chanting and orchestral music.

“We have to keep this going,” Korzeniewski said. “This is a place where the music lifts your soul to the heights.”

Contact Niraj Warikoo: nwarikoo@freepress.com or 313-223-4792

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A fun statistic for readers who use my amazon links

Many thanks to those of you who have been using my Amazon.com links or the boxes on the sidebar!  In particular thanks to the people who go into amazon and do shopping other than for the book or object I have highlighted.

When I look at the stats for clicks and sales, etc., I am amazed at the huge range of things which are ordered.  Of course I cannot tell who orders anything or where the stuff goes, but the variety of things reflects normal daily needs and also a pretty rich intellectual life.

For example, here are a few items I saw in the list – again, I cannot tell who orders what or where it goes.

  • Handbook of Neurosurgery
  • Graduale Romanum [hurray!]
  • 12 Madagascar Vanilla Beans
  • Levi’s Boys 8-20 505 Straight Regular Jean, Armor, 14 R
  • Alec Guinness: The Authorised Biography
  • Orka Silicone Tagine, Black [I had to look that one up to see what on earth it was.  I figured it was something for the kitchen, but… now I know.  Want one?  Click HERE.]

By far, the most clicks and the most sold was the great book by Edward Feser, The Last Superstition: a reputation of the new atheism.

Since I posted about that book there have been 2165 clicks on the link and over 50 copies have been sold!  I’m impressed.

We are making the world smarter book by book.

I wish I had a way to see what sort of Mystic Monk Coffee people were drinking as they read Feser’s Book.   Or more like… the Handbook of Neurosurgery.

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More on Card. George’s comparison of the homosexual parade to a KKK demonstration.

From the Chicago Tribune:

Cardinal defends comparing gay parade organizers to Ku Klux Klan

By Brian Slodysko
Tribune reporter
1:03 p.m. CST, December 28, 2011

Setting off a new round in his dispute with gay right activists, Chicago’s Cardinal Francis George has issued a statement defending his recent comparison of the gay rights movement to the Ku Klux Klan.  [O most excellent Eminence.]

George’s initial comments came in connection with a controversy over whether next summer’s gay pride parade would interrupt morning services at Our Lady of Mount Carmel Church in the Lakeview neighborhood. [Remember the initial report? There was concerned that before the parade reached the church there would have been among the paraders considerable consumption of alcohol.  What could possibly have gone wrong?]

That dispute was resolved last week, but the cardinal’s KKK comparison – and his new explanation of those comments – have kept the controversy boiling. [Good.]

“Organizers (of the pride parade) invited an obvious comparison to other groups who have historically attempted to stifle the religious freedom of the Catholic Church,” the cardinal said in a statement issued Tuesday. “One such organization is the Ku Klux Klan which, well into the 1940s, paraded through American cities not only to interfere with Catholic worship but also to demonstrate that Catholics stand outside of the American consensus. It is not a precedent anyone should want to emulate.” [But that is precisely what homosexual groups are trying to claim.]

Gay rights advocates said today that George was expressing “bigotry” and should apologize and resign.

In October, the route and time of the pride parade were changed to accommodate larger crowds. The start was changed from noon to 10 a.m., and the new route went past Our Lady of Mount Carmel. Church officials later objected, arguing that it would interrupt morning services. Last Wednesday, an agreement was reached to move the start time back to noon.

Meanwhile, George was interviewed by Fox News Chicago. He said: “You know, you don’t want the gay liberation movement to morph into something like the Ku Klux Klan, demonstrating in the streets against Catholicism. So I think if that’s what’s happening, and I don’t know that it is, but I would respect the local pastor’s, you know, position on that.”

When excerpts from the interview were disclosed last week, a spokeswoman for the archdiocese said people should view the entire interview, which aired on Fox on Christmas Day.

[…]

Read the rest over there.

The KKK pushed something that was abominable.  The KKK relentlessly attacked the Church.  The KKK is now seen by most people as ghastly.

I think Card. George’s take is dead on.

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