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Tag Archives: concelebration
Concelebration and COVID-1984: a San Francisco strategy
This is interesting. His Excellency Most Reverend Salvatore Cordileone arranged for multiple Masses to be celebrated simultaneously on the plaza in front of the Cathedral of San Francisco. Alas, these Masses were versus populum, but they were Masses in what … Continue reading
Concelebration, the rights of priests, and changing times
At NLM Peter Kwasniewski has a piece about how concelebration has been and still is being forced on priests. For some, this is almost a mania and you incur their wrath if you don’t con-comply. I say that concelebration should … Continue reading
ASK FATHER: Is a concelebrated Mass just one Mass or several Masses?
From a reader… QUAERITUR: Your recent post and “rant” regarding concelebration made me realize…I don’t actually know what happens at a concelebrated Mass. Is it technically two Masses (if there are two concelebrating priests)? How does that actually work? At … Continue reading
Great concelebration photos during Chartres Pentecost Pilgrimage
During my last Rome visit I posted a photo of real concelebration: three priests at the same time saying their Masses at three altars in the nave of a Roman church. Today I found a great series of pics at Messa … Continue reading
Posted in Just Too Cool, Liturgy Science Theatre 3000, Mail from priests
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VIDEO: Bishops saying private Masses during Vatican II
This is terrific. Here is old video of some bishops at the Second Vatican Council saying their private Masses! The best form of concelebration! Council Fathers offering their Private Masses after the Second Vatican Council was solemnly opened by Pope … Continue reading
Concerning concelebration, variety, and fraternity
I have opined that concelebration should be “safe, legal and rare”. I have, in a jocular mood, posted pics of the sort of concelebration of which I approve. For example: And here are a couple of guys concelebrating… at different … Continue reading
“And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars.”
Fama volat, it is said. No aphorism is truer than this when it comes to Rome all the way back to Virgil, who coined it. So, reminding everyone that we are in the realm of Rumor, I’ve been exchanging texts with … Continue reading
Pope Francis to expand concelebration into the “Tridentine” Mass
I’m not sure what’s up with this, but it can’t be good. From Pisces News with my emphases and comments: Pope Francis to Change “Tridentine” Rite in spirit of Mercy ROME (PiscesNews): In a long-anticipated surprise move Pope Francis has begun his own … Continue reading
Concerning concelebration
At his excellent blog, Mutual Enrichment, Fr. Hunwicke has a few posts about concelebration. Samples… Pope Innocent III on Concelebration: Innocent III takes it for granted that “from time to time many priests concelebrate” and adds “the Cardinal Presbyters of Rome … Continue reading
The Cardinal (Burke) on concelebration
I have said again and again on this blog and elsewhere that concelebration, several or many priests saying Mass together, should be safe, legal and rare. In the Latin Church this practice has been aggressively promoted since the Second Vatican … Continue reading
“Don’t take offence if they have to decline your invitation.”
There is a great post over at my friend Fr. Finigan’s blog, The Hermeneutic of Continuity about lay people and their weddings and inviting priests… and concelebration. Remember, I think concelebration should be safe, legal and rare. Fr. Finigan seems to … Continue reading
QUAERITUR: Distance of a priest’s valid consecration
From a reader: Dear Father – Like yourself I am not a fan of concelebration, but I would like to ask two questions. These questions came about in one of those after dinner discussions which come under the heading of … Continue reading
More on concelebration
At NLM I saw a nice photo of Benedictines at Randol in France in their usual mode of concelebration. I approve. Included is a link to a film, Noir et Blanc, about the monastic life of the Benedictines at the Abbey … Continue reading
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My preference for concelebration
Every time I post about concelebration and private Masses, interesting discussion evolves. This was sent by a reader. From this Pinterest page, these priests are saying their daily Masses during the annual Chartes Pentecost pilgrimage. On another note, here is … Continue reading
My idea of concelebration
Here’s my idea of “concelebration”. The other kind should be safe, legal and rare.
Safe, legal and rare
For two summers in Rome I lived with Ukrainian Catholics. They had their Divine Liturgy each morning and I attended. They appreciated the contribution of my bass singing voice. One of the things I noticed in their Rite that … Continue reading
QUAERITUR: simultaneous Masses v concelebration
From a reader: Canon 902 states that “Unless the welfare of the Christian faithful requires or suggests otherwise, priests can concelebrate the Eucharist. They are completely free to celebrate the Eucharist individually, however, but not while a concelebration is taking place in the … Continue reading
QUAERITUR: Penalty for allowing a “womanpriest” to concelebrate
From a reader: What penalties, if any would a Catholic Priest incur if he allowed a “womanpriest” to “concelebrate” Mass with him? In the 1983 Code of Canon Law for the Latin Church we find can. 1365: “One who is … Continue reading