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OnlyTheTruth00 on Card. Koch, Prefect for Christian Unity, makes observations about the SSPX: ““I would very much like to see a moderated but forthright dialogue like that take place.” Me too. But the…”
Lurker 59 on Distressing words of Leo about the SSPX consecrations: “@Dantesque I’ll be brief. By definition, the HC/HDC are interpretative lenses — they are not Rosetta Stone decoder rings. The…”
mickeyfitz on ASK FATHER: Lay people, SSPX and excommunication: “It seems that when it comes to the SSPX a lot of Catholics, including the Vatican, are quite ready to…”
Venerator Sti Lot on The DDF’s procedures for “reconciling” both clerics and lay people from the SSPX: “Phil_NL2, Thanks for your reply! I heartily agree that “It would probably be wiser to have left the laity out…”
JamesM on ASK FATHER: Lay people, SSPX and excommunication: “@redneckpride4ever I don’t for a second deny that there are many fine priests out there. I am friends with plenty…”
Lurker 59 on ASK FATHER: Lay people, SSPX and excommunication: “@Ages First, we must determine the existence of a fringe on the Vatican Flag and, if present, what color. But…”
redneckpride4ever on ASK FATHER: Lay people, SSPX and excommunication: “@JamesM I have been avoiding publicly commenting since the consecrations because I tend to lose my cool and type stuff…”
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- WDTPRS – 14th Ordinary Sunday (Novus Ordo): from dust to freedom
- Card. Koch, Prefect for Christian Unity, makes observations about the SSPX
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- My View For Awhile: Philly on the 4th
- ASK FATHER: Lay people, SSPX and excommunication
- Daily Rome Shot 1654: facade
- The Bishop of Salt Lake City reduces priests celebrating the TLM, despite conversions of Mormons
- The DDF’s procedures for “reconciling” both clerics and lay people from the SSPX
- Daily Rome Shot 1653: Pius X’s caption call
- What constitutes “formal adherence” to schism? It is NOT merely attending Masses. There’s more to it.
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Tag Archives: SSPX
ASK FATHER: Lay people, SSPX and excommunication
I have several of these in my mail box, similar situations. From a reader… QUAERITUR: I am a lay person who attends a diocesan Latin Mass with my family. On occasion, we attend SSPX Masses or devotions out of necessity … Read More
What constitutes “formal adherence” to schism? It is NOT merely attending Masses. There’s more to it.
The Explanatory Note from the DDF today references the Pontifical Council for Legislative Texts’s Explanatory Note on the excommunication for schism incurred by adherents of the movement of Bishop Marcel Lefebvre of 24 August 1996. The DDF says they adopted … Read More
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Leo wrote to the SSPX. The SSPX wrote back. Fr. Pagliarani’s response.
Leo XIV wrote an impassioned letter to the SSPX. I posted it HERE. Leo wrote with a plea not to go forward. He hinted at dialogue. NB: I turned off comments here and posted this as an update also with … Read More
Leo XIV has written to the SSPX: “I plead with you and ask you with all my heart: please turn back!”
Leo XIV has written to the SSPX. UPDATE: Fr. Pagliarani’s response to Leo HERE LETTER OF POPE LEO XIV TO THE SUPERIOR GENERAL OF THE PRIESTLY FRATERNITY OF SAINT PIUS X ___________________________________ To The Reverend Davide Pagliarani Superior General … Read More
I have to post these. I know you can find them on your own. But I must post them.
I have to post these. I know you can find them on your own. But I must post them. I pray to God and the angels and any human agents out there that they be made known to Pope Leo … Read More
Distressing words of Leo about the SSPX consecrations
Distressing. BREAKING: Pope Leo XIV on the upcoming SSPX Consecrations: “I am considering making another appeal saying don’t do this, let’s try to live the communion of the Church. But it’s their choice. One must realize what it means for … Read More
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ASK FATHER: Is religious liberty in “Dignitatis humanae” the same as before the Vatican II? Of SSPX relevance. Wherein Fr. Z also makes an impassioned plea to Leo.
From a reader… QUAERITUR: Could you explain how the definition of religious liberty in Dignatis Humanae is the same as how Popes defined it previously before the Second Vatican Council, I don’t quite understand how it can be said to … Read More
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Tradition … “safeguard the faith and combat error”
Msgr. Gherardini was one of our profs at the Pontifical Lateran University. Check out this piece at One Peter Five, in which Gherardini’s thought about Tradition and the 1988 consecrations by Archbp. Lefevbre is briefly exposed. […] I will not … Read More
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SSPX in Italy sent a book all Italian Bishops about the upcoming consecrations
The days are ticking down. What’s going to happen? The SSPX in Italy has sent a booklet to all the residential bishops of the Italian Bishops Conference. HERE The Priestly Society of Saint Pius X has sent to all the … Read More
A ‘Cri de Coeur’ from the heartland
From a reader on this 2nd Sunday of Lent. (Note: because of the blog migration Early Tuesday 2 March, comments posted after 0600 EST 11 UTC) will not migrate. That’ll give you time to “think before posting”.) Wanted to pass … Read More






















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