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Oldie PODCAzT 51: Communion in the hand
I got some really nice feedback from via e-mail:
Dear Father:This nice note from a kind reader has motivated me simply to repost my PODCAzT about Communion in the hand, in case some new visitors to WDTPRS haven’t seen it:
After being a Protestant for many years I was confirmed into the Catholic church 5 years ago…. I have always struggled with the communion issue—in the hand or by mouth… your PodCast gave the best convincing arguement I have ever heard on why it was better to receive by mouth. So I have been partaking by mouth for the past week.
Apparently I made the right decision as I was spiritually attacked all last week, which I endured without discouragement. I will pass your podcast along to my friends that they may listen and be informed. This will also help me in my spiritual growth as a lay Discalced Carmelite.
May God Bess you…I pray for you and for all priests daily.
We tackle a thorny issue: Communion in the hand.
To help us drill into this practice, which we can only hope will diminish over time, we have the help of comments by His Excellency Archbishop Malcolm Ranjith, Secretary of the Congregation for Divine Worship and Discipline of the Sacraments.
We also will hear from Thomas E. Woods Jr., in his fairly new book, Sacred Then and Sacred Now: The Return of the Old Latin Mass.
In case you are wondering, I add plenty of my own thoughts on the matter.
http://www.wdtprs.com/podcazt/08_02_25.mp3
To me, if we believe in the Real Presence, how could we possibly ‘touch’ Him. Of course I grew up when that was a grave sin – no one except sacred hands ever handled The Host and if It fell, It was guarded until the Priest took care of the situation. And you would probably not be surprised to find that I quietly make my way to the line where the Priest gives Holy Communion.
Comment by TKS — 23 April 2008 @ 8:17 amAny chance of this pod cast in print ?
Comment by Limbo — 23 April 2008 @ 9:33 amI don’t share the opinion of TKS that belief in the Real Presence precludes Communion in the hand. Receiving Communion in the hands and then puttinng the cupped hands to the mouth (as is the Anglican custom) appears to have been the norm in the early Church. Furthermore, what we “physically” feel are the accidents.
That said, I have memories of kneeling with my hands under the houseling cloth with a golden paten under my chin as a richly vested priest placed the Host on my tongue. I was a young boy in those days and I find it difficult to believe that young children today who walk down the aisle putting the Host in their mouth as if it were a potato chip receive the same sense of holiness that I received.
I receive on the tongue.
Comment by David O'Rourke — 23 April 2008 @ 11:43 amDavid:I don’t share the opinion of TKS that belief in the Real Presence precludes Communion in the hand. Receiving Communion in the hands and then puttinng the cupped hands to the mouth (as is the Anglican custom) appears to have been the norm in the early Church.
No, it wasn’t the norm in the early Church, though that is often claimed. Also, the manner of receiving Communion in the hand is described carefully by the conferences of bishops which permit it: putting your cupped hands to your mouth is NOT the way to do it.
Furthermore, what we “physically” feel are the accidents.
I am not sure why this is relevant to anything. We don’t chose to receive the Host because of the physical accidents.
I find it difficult to believe that young children today who walk down the aisle putting the Host in their mouth as if it were a potato chip receive the same sense of holiness that I received.
I don’t think the purpose of reception of Holy Communion is to “receive a sense of holiness”, though surely that should be a component: that something profoundly Holy has come to you.
I am very pleased to read that you receive on the tongue. Would that everyone did.
Comment by Fr. John Zuhlsdorf — 23 April 2008 @ 5:27 pmI’m listening to the podcast right now and I have to say I really wish more people in my parish agreed with the practice. I am definitely the exception rather than the rule by receiving communion on the tongue. Actually, I can probably count on one hand the number of people who tend to go to the same masses as I do who also take communion that way. I definitely get looks when I step up to receive communion (especially since I’m 23 and the only other people who don’t take communion in the hand look to be pushing 150).
Of course, it also doesn’t help that one of the priests in the parish clearly doesn’t like it when I don’t put out my hands to receive communion. It’s gotten to the point that I avoid masses when I know he’s celebrating (not to the point of not fulfilling my obligation, of course, rather rearranging my schedule to go at a different time). I have thought about taking up the issue with the pastor, though I’m not entirely sure that won’t do more harm than good knowing this particular priest as I do.
Comment by Jayna — 23 April 2008 @ 6:54 pmJayna,
Hope this helps. We attend a progressive parish in a progressive diocese in the SE(Georgia) and have learned to go ahead and do what you know is right regardless of how the priest reacts. Remember that the function they perform is to serve the flock. If you have a TLM nearby I would suggest that you go there occassionally to remember what the purpose of Mass really is(worship of God, ot self). It is easy for those who have options to criticize those who have to faithfully endure day in and day out the effects of the rebellion fomented by the lack of guidance from our shepherds. The bottom line is ‘You Are Not Alone’. We will pray for you and we ask your prayers for us. Be the example, and even priests need to see that. Pray for them too and be assured that you are touching the hearts of someone who is watching. You may never see the fruits but our Lord does and that is so much more important than anything else. God must be pleased by your reverence. Your devotion to God will not be popular but rejection by the worldly was guaranteed by Jesus himself. You are in good company with all the persecuted and the Saints.
Omnia possum in eo qui me confortat.
God Bless You and All who suffer for the Kingdom.
Lance Patrick
Comment by Lance Patrick — 23 April 2008 @ 7:58 pmLance,
Thanks for the support! There is a TLM parish south of me (I’m also in Georgia, by the way!), I think about a 45 minute to an hour drive. I keep planning on making it down there, it’s just that their mass times are in constant conflict with my work schedule.
The thing that’s the worst about the whole situation is that I really like the parish, I like the people and the priests are really good guys on the whole. There are just times when one of them will say something that I just can’t wrap my head around a priest saying. For instance, I was speaking to one of the priests about two or three weeks ago and he was complaining about having to do a confession outside of the normal time the church sets aside for doing them. (I might add that they only do them for about an hour one day a week.) I kept thinking that he should have been pleased that this person even made the effort to go to confession at all.
Ah well, I doubt I’ll be changing their minds anytime soon, but maybe through my actions I might be able to find some other people in the parish on the more traditional side who will band with me in my constant requests for an EF mass at our church.
Comment by Jayna — 23 April 2008 @ 8:54 pmNo, it wasn’t the norm in the early Church, though that is often claimed. Also, the manner of receiving Communion in the hand is described carefully by the conferences of bishops which permit it: putting your cupped hands to your mouth is NOT the way to do it.
It may not have been the norm, but it was certainly not… not the norm. There was a great diversity in the early Church as to how Communion was received. In some places, Communion in the hand was the norm. In fact, the Council of Trullo actually forbade receiving Communion without receiving it in the hand. I don’t think that it is possible to say that any method was the norm. It was done in different ways, and I don’t know of any evidence which would suggest that any one particular method was more common than others.
Unfortunately, it is correct that putting the cupped hands to the mouth is not the way the conferences proscribe the method. The USCCB says:
“If Communion is received in the hand, the hands should first of all be clean. If one is right handed the left hand should rest upon the right. The host will then be laid in the palm of the left hand and then taken by the right hand to the mouth. If one is left-handed this is reversed. It is not appropriate to reach out with the fingers and take the host from the person distributing.”
This is not the method of reception in the hand that was present in the early Church – at least not as far as the evidence suggests. As I said, there was a diversity and so I suppose that this may have been the case in some areas, but the evidence that we do have for Communion in the hand is that it was to be done in the method that David described. He was correct to say that this is what we see happening in the early Church. Cyril of Jerusalem wrote:
“When thou goest to receive communion go not with thy wrists extended, nor with thy fingers separated, but placing thy left hand as a throne for thy right, which is to receive so great a King, and in the hollow of the palm receive the body of Christ, saying, Amen.”
I have no problem with Communion in the hand, because it is very apparent that the early Church not only did not have a problem with it, but in many places encouraged or even required it. I think that I do have a problem with the USCCB permitting it in a manner inconsistent with the early practice.
Peace and God bless
Comment by Shane — 23 April 2008 @ 11:02 pmI used to receive in the hand, and then I learned what VII had to say, and my inspiration is St. Therese, and I’m not more worthy than her to be standing, as well as received in my hands
Communion in the hand wasn’t the norm in Rome.
I saw a kid in Mass eating Jesus like a cracker, and for that, Communion in the Hand should be banned, (deo gratias Cardinal Cipirani)
For me Communion in the Hand is simple, if you love God so much, you want him to come to you through the hands of the priest.
Communion in the Hand is against the understanding of how God came to us, not us to him. :)
Comment by Joe of St. ThĂ©rèse — 24 April 2008 @ 12:12 amCommunion in the Hand is against the understanding of how God came to us, not us to him. :)
I think I agree with a lot of what was in this post, but not this point. Communion