Card. Burke on the LCWR’s view of religious life

I wrote about how screwed up Sr. Joan Chittister’s view of religious life is HERE.

Review that and then listen to this:

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Same wave length, no?

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36 Comments

  1. Ad Multos Annos to Cardinal Burke….

  2. Athanasius says:

    When will we have this discussion about the USCCB?

  3. I sincerely, honestly hope that Cardinal Burke is our next Pope…

  4. Jason Keener says:

    Ah, we can always depend on Cardinal Burke to gladden the hearts of the weary! He would one day make an excellent Supreme Pontiff, no?

  5. kallman says:

    Amen Cardinal Burke

  6. Fr. Frank says:

    I agree with you, Jonathan.

  7. Maxiemom says:

    Cardinal Burke as Pope – sorry, no thank you.

  8. TomG says:

    Maxiemom: Don’t know that I’d necessarily disagree with you, but why not?

  9. acardnal says:

    God bless Cardinal Burke. Ad Multos Annos

  10. TZ says:

    Thanks, JonathanCatholic! I’ll add this intention to my prayers right away! Just think: the first-ever American Pope.

  11. Maxiemom says:

    Tom G – He’s so ultra conservative and I personally believe that he would attempt to reverse Vatican II. I think this would be the end of the Roman Catholic church. Mainly because many people are more educated than pre-Vatican II and would make a decision to leave a church that they perceive to be almost repressive.

  12. RichR says:

    Clear, concise, no ambiguities, defending the Faith and the HF.

    When JPII was reigning, Card. Ratzinger was my hero with the red hat. With Ratzinger reigning, Card. Burke is my hero with the red hat.

  13. Dr. K says:

    Cardinal Burke for Pope!

  14. frjim4321 says:

    It is possible that he could be elected. He would not be my choice but it could happen.

  15. Iowa Mike says:

    Insightful, concise and correct as usual…….thank you Cardinal Burke.

  16. Scott W. says:

    Anything could happen, but I think the mere fact that he is American is enough to disqualify him in the minds of most cardinals.

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  18. Springkeeper says:

    LCWR is having a news conference today at 2:45 p.m. Central Time. Their lastest statement from their newly elected president makes it pretty clear what they’re going to say. They are so manipulative and evil, what a contrast to Cardinal Burke.

    http://ncronline.org/news/lcwr-president-sisters-be-fearless-vatican-mandate

  19. Aegidius says:

    The mere fact that Cardibal Burke is American may never disqualify him as papapile – think of Benedict being (horribile dictu) German. Would you have risked a dollar that a German could be Pope after 500 years and after what had happened in the past centuries?

    Anyway, I deem such speculations way off the point and even disrespectful: we enjoy having the best, most humble, most courageous, most intelligent, most charitable, clearest, simplest, most straightforward, most strenuous and effective, Pope we may think of in our wildest dreams – apparently in “his best years” of full strength of will and judgement, so very obviously carried and consoled by the Holy Trinity – would you mind holding back your speculations another 10 years, or so?
    Benedict, ad multos annos!

  20. Scott W. says:

    would you mind holding back your speculations another 10 years, or so?

    Yes I would because I don’t find them disrespectful at all. If you don’t like them, don’t participate.

  21. Aegidius says:

    Scott, your kindness is disarming and your logic is convincing, but let our common love for the church and for the reigning Supreme Pontiff, Vicario Christi, not be spoiled by competition whom the Holy Ghost choose to replace Benedict once he enjoys full vision of our Saviour. For some reason, it is the conclave alone, which will discuss and decide. No primaries, no campaign, no polls, no impact from posting blog readers, thank God.

  22. anilwang says:

    Scott, I’ll have to agree with Aegidius.

    Either the election of a Pope is political or it is lead by the Holy Spirit. While it is true that some countries will have a disadvantage on the political front (e.g. the US precisely because it is so influential now, Italy precisely because it was so influential in the past, the Global South precisely because it does not have a dominant representation in he college of cardinals, etc), if the current crop of cardinals are trying to follow God’s will rather than man’s, even these disadvantages can be overcome. In any case, such speculations are worth the sand they are written on since there are so many variables involved.

  23. Elizabeth D says:

    http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=15214

    National Catholic Register reported that Tom Fox, “the publisher of the National Catholic Reporter called upon the sisters present to “just say no” to Vatican concerns—leading to “audible groans” from some of the sisters. ”

    This was NOT reported on “fishwrap” coverage of this panel. Let me sum up: Publisher of the fishwrap serves as host of a panel at the LCWR meeting, at which he takes an activist role, telling the sisters to choose disobedience… while his publication “reports” a highly distorted version of the LCWR story.

  24. albinus1 says:

    Either the election of a Pope is political or it is lead by the Holy Spirit.

    Why “either … or …”? Why not “both … and …”?

  25. Aegidius says:

    Because “political” means part of human political thinking, i.e. gaining, defending, balancing, of power (to do good). If the election is guided by the Holy Ghost, there is God’s provision (strategy), but no space for human political thinking. One precludes the other.

  26. I agree that the election of the Vicar of Christ to the Chair of Peter is guided by the Holy Ghost, and I agree that ‘politics,’ in terms of country of origin or other such factors that ultimately unimportant, are only superficial in terms of the Mind of Christ being fulfilled. But I don’t think in terms of the next Pope being Italian or American or whatever, I think in terms of a Pope that is 1) Unapologetic for the Roman Catholic Church and her entire Faith, Liturgical patrimony, and Sacred Tradition 2) Is outspoken on moral issues, and 3) Is in love with Sacred Tradition and is a proponent of a strong hermeneutic of continuity. All three of these are not ‘political’ factors, but go to the heart of being a faithful Roman Catholic in continuity with the Church of all times and our own Roman patrimony.

    Right now, the figures that stand out most prominently at fitting these three criteria are Pope Benedict XVI (ad multos annos!), Cardinal Raymond Burke, Cardinal Francis Arinze, Cardinal Malcolm Ranjith, Bishop Alexander Sample, and others that I won’t name for sake of brevity. Obviously, I wish our beloved Holy Father, by the grace of God, to sit upon the Chair of Peter for many years. I do not say these things to insult His Holiness, the Sovereign Pontiff, or to somehow wish for (God forbid) an end to his Pontificate. Nor am I under any delusions that my say has any effect whatsoever on the purposes of the Holy Ghost working through the future Conclave. However, I will certainly continue praying for the will of God to come to pass in this and all areas of the Church’s universal Life. My private hopes are that either Cardinal Burke or Cardinal Ranjith were elected. Cardinal Arinze as well, thought unfortunately it is looking less likely since he is somewhat elderly.

  27. robtbrown says:

    Aegidius says:

    Because “political” means part of human political thinking, i.e. gaining, defending, balancing, of power (to do good). If the election is guided by the Holy Ghost, there is God’s provision (strategy), but no space for human political thinking. One precludes the other.

    Completely disagree. God moves through instrumental causes.

  28. digdigby says:

    robtbrown-
    Homo proponit, sed Deus disponit. (Man proposes, God disposes.)
    – Thomas à Kempis
    A Christian Scientist who doesn’t understand God’s working through a pediatrician is just as narrow-minded. I agree with you.

  29. Scott W. says:

    Scott, I’ll have to agree with Aegidius.

    Ahh two votes against. If I believed in democracy, that might mean something. :)

  30. Scott W. says:

    No primaries, no campaign, no polls, no impact from posting blog readers, thank God.

    In other words, “Shut up!”

  31. irishgirl says:

    Amen, Cardinal Burke, amen!
    These foolish women should have been reined in a long time ago!

  32. tealady24 says:

    “These foolish women should have been reined in a long time ago!”
    I agree, but shouldn’t it have been by these same bishops & cardinals???????
    How in God’s holy name, did they EVER get to be where they are today? And still call themselves ‘sisters’ in the Catholic Church????
    Somebody want to answer me that!

  33. Aegidius says:

    Scotty, when I asked that our Holy Father’s heritage not be distributed while he’s still alive (and thank God he is most alive!), your thoughtful comment was this:
    “If you don’t like them, don’t participate.”
    I am sorry I did not exactly get the message right away. Now, thankfully, you are politely providing an easier understandable paraphrase: “In other words, ‘Shut up!’
    Aye, I can do that.

  34. Scott W. says:

    And my perhaps predictable reply: I will not.

  35. Scott W. says:

    So anyway, as I was saying, Cardinal Burke is certainly an excellent spokesman and certainly would make an excellent pope, of course it is possible even if unlikely. And of course the unlikely happens now and then in the conclave. I tend to think that because Catholicism is in decline in the West, but ascending in Africa and the Orient, we could be looking at non-Westerners in the future. I used to be partial to Cdl. Arinze, but I got strongly rebuked and someone made a good case for Cdl. Ranjith.

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