Pontifical Mass sighting

I am hoping for an widespread outbreak of Pontifical Masses in the traditional form of the Roman Rite.

Thus, I was pleased to receive photos of a Pontifical Mass at the Throne celebrated by His Eminence Raymond Card. Burke when he was down-under in Sydney, Australia.

What a shame that they had that table altar in the way.  I’m sure that complicated things.

The “winter cappa” was used.

Let there be more Pontifical Masses.  Let us recover our Roman Rite.

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19 Responses to Pontifical Mass sighting

  1. Tim Ferguson says:

    Interesting that the winter cappa was used – I suppose it is still winter in Australia – or did this Mass take place earlier in the year?

  2. FrAnt says:

    I am trying to get my mind and heart around the use of the Novus Ordo, and the Traditional Mass. I see the beauty, sacredness, the awe of the TLM, but I also believe that if the NOM is celebrated well and according to the rubrics it too can express the beauty, sacredness, and awe of the sacrifice of Christ. My thoughts are that if Vatican II called for the reform of the liturgy and the fruits of that reform (the NOM) were approved by the Holy See, then we should positively promote both forms of worship, not one over the other?
    I agree that there are not enough TLM celebrated for the faithful, but that is going to take time to change. I, myself, do not know Latin or how to celebrate the TLM, but I do try to celebrate NOM by saying the black and doing the red (Love the cup by-the-way.)

  3. rms says:

    I agree about the table altar Father. The Pontiffical Mass at Holy Family Cathedral in Tulsa back in October 2013, they used the table altar for that mass too. I was confused that they used it then because they have a wonderful main altar! Their table altar is very very nice and it matches the original high altar as well but the could have moved it I think? Naturally I do not know why they do not just go ahead and use the high altar for all Pontiffical Masses being it in the Extraordinary or Ordinary form since Bishop Slattery prays both forms Ad Orientum in his Cathedral! Off subject a bit, the wonderful and great new Ordinary of Wichita, Bishop Carl Kemme is an awesome breath of fresh air for us lay faithful and the priest of Wichita! He prays mass very reverently, he is truly a great pastor as well! Bishop Kemme is the Bishop many of us have been praying for. He has publicly supported the Extraordinary form and the priest whom pray it! This is MUCH different than our previous ordinary now Archbishop Michael Jackels. Archbishop Jackels was very hostil to the Extraordinary form and to the priest and faithful who admire it and do or wish to pray it. When a priest friend of mine was ordained his parents were ordering new vestments for their son from the Kansas City Benedictines. They happened to be roman vestments and then Bishop Jakels told the new priest that he could not have that type of chasuble in the diocese of Wichita! He also told his priest that the could not kiss the cross on the stole because that was a “mixing or rites” the same he said of wearing the birreta! As well you could not pray the TLM unless 2/3 of the Parrish asked for it. Praise Jesus we have a bishop who is not hostile to tradition! Ok off the soap box! Please pray for both Bishop Kemme and Archbishop Jackels. Thankyou for your blog Fr. Z

  4. APX says:

    Are there anymore pictures of this somewhere? I live vicariously through seeing pictures of other Pontifical Masses since I know I will never get to attend one in person.

  5. majuscule says:

    This is not in the same class as a Pontifical Mass but yesterday we moved the table altar out of the way in preparation for an EF Mass today for a retreat at my (admitedly very small) church. This is a church that somehow missed having its altar rails torn out removed.

    Of course, the table altar will be moved back for Sunday…but at least we have today!

  6. MonkChanan says:

    I thank God for Raymond Cardinal Burke, for Archbishop Charles J. Chaput, for The Cardinal Newman Society and for Eternal Word Television Network , each of which pulls more than its own weight for what really matters and without which things would be bleak.

    I think I am on the same wavelength as Father Z who feels uncomfortable about the “resignation” or “retirement” of Pope Benedict XVI particularly when he was doing so much good in areas that conservatives like and liberals frowned upon. I can’t see too much change that Pope Francis has brought about yet, although he is popular.

    In my diocese, the new thing going is a positively vibrant Church which is headquarters of the Canadian Deanery of St John the Baptist, where we have four priests to add to our city who are in favour of a solemn liturgy. This Ordinariate Church of St John the Evangelist, Calgary is literally packed and the pews on Sunday are overflowing and which there are not only the convert congregation but young Catholic families with many children which is good to see indeed, but at which I notice those who were regulars at The Latin Mass of the Roman Catholic Diocese of Calgary who seem to have transferred over their membership from the St Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter to the Personal Ordinariate of the Chair of St. Peter, which underscores the power of the vernacular liturgy done in a solemn high mass fashion.

    The Bugnini Mass was such a tragedy when a vernacular Mass could have been designed that was a solid part of the “hermeneutic of continuity.” Either the Tridentine Mass could have been literally translated into the Queens English or the Solemn Liturgy that has been developed in the Personal Ordinariate of Our Lady of Walsingham could have been used, which would have had such a good effect instead of the “sandalista messes” that we now have at most sing-a-long Zwinglian “Lord’s Suppers” on Sundays. Instead Cranmer has won in our city when it comes to a Sunday Mass that is really worshipful – kneeling at the Communion Rail for a largely on the tongue with paten and a reverent sharing of the Chalice of the Precious Blood.

    I like to visit this growing parish, wondering what will have to be their eventual Church because of their real growth. I myself am at the Ukrainian Catholic Church of the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary, which also has a more traditional liturgy of St John Chrysostom. Thus to sum up, Pope Benedict has had, through Anglicanorum Coetibus a permanent legacy. We can only hope Pope Francis will have as equally a positive legacy to remember him by.

  7. donadrian says:

    There appear to be four Assistant Priests – excessive even for a cardinal, surely?

  8. APX says:

    MonkChanan,

    I have attended St. John the Evangelist in Calgary. I don’t think it’s fair to attribute the shift of people from St. Anthony’s over to the Ordinariate simply because of its use of the vernacular used in solemn liturgy. From speaking to people who have made the switch common answers I get are they have a better Mass time, not as cliquey as St. Anthony’s, people aren’t as bitter and carrying around baggage like the numerous Traditionalists, etc. I confess, in weak moments I have wanted to make the switch, but I never did feel quite at home there. It’s a pretty small church, which makes it quite cozy and warm, but I find it depressing when there is a major feast day and there are more statues than people at Mass! Though, I must say something. St. John the Evangelist has a really nice women’s washroom, which I am told does not ring true for the men. There are some benefits to married priests. : -P

  9. So my question, with what seems to be a gradual increase in Pontifical Masses in public, where does one purchase a cappa magna? Anyone know?

  10. Hank Igitur says:

    2 assistant priests to the cardinal (FSSP), deacon and sub (Conventual Franciscan priest and Dominican priest), MC and assistant MC (a diocesan priest and a KCHS) and two lay servers in copes for the mitre and crozier, as well as many servers in albs, the choir and KCHS knights).

  11. rms says:

    To Julian Barkin: The Benedictines of Mary near Kansas City Missouri make them. The problem is that they have a two year wait on all vestments as of now! It’s great they have that many orders to fill but it does cause a problem if you need something quicker than two years from now. I would check with one of the many shops in Rome or inquire the FSSP or ICRSS.

  12. kylie says:

    I don’t think the table altar is the moving kind – I’m pretty sure it is a stone (marble?) altar – Pope Benedict XVI consecrated it in 2008 during World Youth Day.

  13. Hank Igitur says:

    That altar cannot be moved without a crane, solid piece of Italian marble, not a folding picnic table. It was well realised at the time of placement it could not be moved and that it would render the high altar unable to be used. It has been used a number of times for the Tridentine Rite including an ordination. With the antependium as shown it does not work too badly although it restricts free movement and number of people who can be accommodated. Such a shame now the high altar has had the 12 wooden statues put in place after their places having been bare for so many decades.

  14. Gaz says:

    Kyrie is right. I believe it’s the only altar Pope Benedict has consecrated.

  15. SPWang says:

    It can’t be! Is that the one and only Tony Pead there in the background of the Cappa photo with his tie awry?
    Such a man is with more focus!

  16. SPWang says:

    Opps *worth more focus

  17. rms says:

    It it a stone altar and BXVI did consecrate it but it’s not the only one he consecrated as Pope.

  18. Supertradmum says:

    IMHO, it takes a “real man” to wear the cappa magna.

    What great photos and what a great Cardinal.