SSPX reporting in Germany

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1. Catholic says:

   6 February 2009 at 9:07 AM

   I am sure you will love this, Father Z.:

   Support Pope Benedict XVI:

   http://www.soutienabenoitxvi.org/index.php?lang=uk

   Perhaps you could post it as a feed or twitter or whatever possibilities you have.

   Let us pray for the Holy Father and show him our support!
2. Steve says:

   6 February 2009 at 9:09 AM

   Of course there’s pressure. The Germans are naturally very sensitive about the Holocaust, and for the most part that’s a good thing. However, some German media use everything with a Nazi theme as a pretext to beat up on the Catholic Church. That kind of “reporting” never actually comes to a complete stop in Germany–just take a look at Der Spiegel, for instance, every few weeks, and there will almost always be some article purporting to link Catholics or the Catholic Church to Hitler’s worst crimes. This time, unfortunately, they’ve backed into high gear.
3. Steve says:

   6 February 2009 at 9:11 AM

   “Backed into high gear”? I’m mixing my analogies horribly. I meant to say: They’ve gone into high gear now.
4. IvoDeNorthfield says:

   6 February 2009 at 9:12 AM

   Is it pressure or desperation? Unless Germans are completely brain-dead, the incessant banging away at the Holy Father in the media is probably getting on a good many people’s nerves. I mean, it’s pretty obvious that people can be in communion with the Church even if they’re Holocaust deniers, and that the Holy Father is not endorsing Bp Williamson’s views on the Holocaust.
5. mike-c says:

   6 February 2009 at 9:17 AM

   Pressure? How about “coordinated agenda?”
6. LCB says:

   6 February 2009 at 9:31 AM

   It’s not sufficient that the opponents of secular liberalism be silenced.

   In the name of diversity, in the name of tolerance…

   You. Must. Agree.
7. baymedlevel says:

   6 February 2009 at 9:47 AM

   The excommunications needed to be lifted. Bp Willliamson, whatever the reason, should have kept his opinions to himself. Does he not know when he is being baited? Pray for all of them. The Pope, the SSPX, the Bishops, and the media.
8. jaykay says:

   6 February 2009 at 9:48 AM

   “In the name of diversity, in the name of tolerance… You. Must. Agree.”

   And ve haf vays of making you agree vich you vill not find pleasant… :)

   It’s actually not quite so bad over here in Ireland, amazingly enough, despite the desperate cravings of our soi-disant lib media to appear every bit as up-to-the minute as their hero figures in big, grown-up countries (for which read the US, UK and the northern bits of Europe). I mean, all this Catholicism, haven’t we outgrown that now that we can actually pronounce “latte” properly? On the other hand the economic crisis is taking up a lot of the space and, after all, that’s the real priority, isn’t it? Gotta serve our TRUE master…
9. Irenaeus says:

   6 February 2009 at 10:32 AM

   “take a look at Der Spiegel, for instance, every few weeks, and there will almost always be some article purporting to link Catholics or the Catholic Church to Hitler’s worst crimes”

   I get really annoyed about this — Der Spiegel seems to hate the Church (protestants too), and everyone forgets that the one German institution to resist the Nazis was the Church, broadly speaking. Newspapers? Nazi. Universities? Nazi.
10. rob says:

    6 February 2009 at 12:01 PM

    Our Lady of the Roses said, ” …in the end… they
    [the SSPX bishops] will go into full schism.”
11. Paul says:

    6 February 2009 at 12:31 PM

    “Our Lady of the Roses said . . . ”

    Isn’t that a Bayside apparition?
12. John says:

    6 February 2009 at 6:28 PM

    Bayside was declared not credible!
13. Rob says:

    7 February 2009 at 8:09 AM

    Our Lady of Bayside, September 1985

    Traditionalists being led astray
    “We hear all names coming forward to Our ears of churches being born anew, called the Traditional Roman Catholic Church. My child and My children, We need no more Traditionalists running around and creating new churches. We have to remain steadfast and firm in our convictions that with enough prayer, and, also, the firm example of holiness among many, this will not happen.

    “We do not condemn those who make these side churches, the Traditional Roman Catholic churches; they mean well, but they are being led astray. There will be eventually an American Catholic church if this continues. This is not approved by Heaven. Man’s judgment can always err, especially when he discounts the knowledge of the supernatural.

    Breaking away must stop

    “Remember, My children, I have asked you to remain steadfast in your parish churches, even though it will be a crucifixion to you. We cannot have schism in the United States and Canada. For those who are united shall stand, and those who divide themselves shall fall. My child and My children, do not discount this part of the Message from Heaven. It is most urgent that this breaking away stop now before it evolves into a major schism.

    “My child, you will continue with the prayers of atonement. There is much that We wish to discourse with you at this time, but I understand, My child, the weakness of your human body. We do not expect you to give in to all of your wishes to do as much as you can in short a time. You must also exercise good common sense, My child, and not wear yourself thin. For you will not be able to do your mission well. Take each day as it comes, My child, for tomorrow is another day. I also want you to remember this, My child: to allow yourself to go without sleep gains nothing. There are seven days of the week. There are six days in which to do your work, a seventh shall be a day of rest and prayer. Remember, My children, that the moon has come and the sun has gone, it is time for all children, good or evil, to rest. For the moon has come and the sun has gone, I repeat: it is time for all children to rest. That, My child, will now end the discourse with you this evening.

    “But I assure you, We shall not put you through the strain again that forces you to miss My Mother’s Vigils here at the Vatican site. Yes, My child, you will not be free from suffering, for you have accepted once those sufferings sent upon you, and in this manner will you keep yourself in the state of grace so necessary for the deliverance of Our Message to the world.”
14. Rob says:

    7 February 2009 at 8:33 AM

    Our Lady of Bayside:

    Feb 1977:
    Not to create schism

    “We ask you from Heaven not to leave, not to create a schism from your main body in Rome. You must remain within My Son’s Church and pray a constant vigilance of prayer. Satan and his agents have entered in full battle upon My Son’s Church. Satan has entered into the highest ranks within My Son’s Church and the world. He will manipulate powers, provincials, until he brings about a great chastisement, because man will not listen and mend his ways.

    July 1979
    Remain united with Rome

    “I ask you not to judge another. You may counsel, you may give your viewpoints, but no violence must be used. And I do not want schism. I do not want any interference from separated brethren in My Church. They must be brought back. Convert the unbeliever! You must remain united with Rome.

    “The gates of hell shall not prevail against My Church, for a cleansing will come about and all that is rotten will fall! And My Church shall be restored to its former glory!

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