Daily Rome Shot 1246 – Why Pre-Lent was dropped

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1. Fr. John Zuhlsdorf says:

   16 February 2025 at 9:09 AM

   

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2. EAW says:

   16 February 2025 at 5:27 PM

   I for one am grateful to be able to experience the spiritual richness of Pre-Lent. To difficult to pronounce? How condescending!
3. BeatifyStickler says:

   16 February 2025 at 6:24 PM

   What style of architecture would that Church be considered? Beautiful.
4. monstrance says:

   17 February 2025 at 12:22 AM

   Priestly Vocations in Columbus. I’m assuming that’s Columbus Ohio.
   The Vocations Director is a Fr William Hahn.
   Scott Hahn’s son ?
5. Dustin F says:

   17 February 2025 at 10:04 AM

   Columbus, OH resident here. For full context, we have consistently had a high number of seminarians in this diocese since I’ve been here. Bp. Fernandes is great, but this isn’t new since he’s been here. We had a good number under Bps. Brennan and Campbell as well. A substantial number discern out during the process. Other factors that seem to impact the numbers include a few great priests we’ve had for a number of years and the recent influx of dynamic young priests, who have made vocations more attractive to young men in the diocese.
6. Ionathas Gnosis ph. d. says:

   17 February 2025 at 11:50 AM

   Of all the changes which were made to the liturgy in the twentieth century, the dropping of pre-Lent is one of the relatively few to which I do not object. If I correctly understand the last sentence quoted in the X post (“Tempus Septuagesimae….novitatis notam detrahebat liturgiae paenitentiali Quadragesimae”), the concern was that pre-Lent was taking away from the uniqueness of Lent, and I see validity in that concern. Also, at the risk of being called a rationalist, I do not support the imprecision of naming the three Sundays before Lent with numbers which do not correspond to the actual number of days between them and Easter. Even after reading Fr. Z’s previous post on the topic, I would say that if the time of pre-Lent was to be kept, the Sundays should at least be renamed. They could have been called antepenultimate, penultimate, and ultimate before Lent. Three cheers for hard words!
7. Geoffrey says:

   17 February 2025 at 12:42 PM

   The “Burying of the Alleluia” …Is this in the Rituale Romanum?
8. TheCavalierHatherly says:

   17 February 2025 at 2:51 PM

   “Difficilimum erat munus de eo loqui ad populum”

   “For it was a most difficult duty to speak about it to the people”… which reads more like the problem here is with the general run of the clergy.

   Yes. Yes it is.
9. amenamen says:

   17 February 2025 at 3:03 PM

   Nf6+, Pxf6
   Be8#
10. jaykay says:

    17 February 2025 at 5:14 PM

    BeatifyStickler: it’s Santa Maria della Pace, in the Baroque style

    https://www.walksinrome.com/church-of-santa-maria-della-pace-rome.html
11. BeatifyStickler says:

    17 February 2025 at 6:41 PM

    Jaykay. Thank you. What a magnificent building.
12. amenamen says:

    18 February 2025 at 2:19 AM

    No. That was not solution. A blunder.
13. Imrahil says:

    18 February 2025 at 11:39 AM

    Difficilimum erat munus de eo loqui ad populum.

    One thing is that this is plainly not true, at least where where a few words without much depth and sophistication are concerned. What’s so difficult about the three words “Lent is coming”? As for the name, if you don’t like the sound of “Septuagesima” and think “Shrovetide” sounds too much like “Carnival” (not that the would be bad i.m.o., but I digress), what is so difficult about “pre-Lent”?

    For another, if you don’t like to say anything, just say nothing. It would in general be somewhat of a loss, but still, if you don’t like to, just say nothing.

    What’s so difficult about: “Today, the liturgy of our holy mother the Church presents us with the parable of the workers in the vinyard. Now, when we look at it, we might be inclined to think”, etc. etc. They do have the workers in the vinyard somewhen in the NO, right? What’s so difficult about that?

    Septuagesima also happens to have the appropriate Epistle for Super Bowl Sunday, which it sometimes is… just by the way…

    The other two Sundays are even more obvious. He can preach about St. Paul on Sexagesima which is sort of “St. Paul’s Sunday”. He can on Quinquagesima preach about both the “going to Jerusalem” as well as on the Epistle, which is 1 Corinthians 13, he will want to preach about that anyway?

    Or else, what’s so difficult about: “I take a step back from the pericope of this Sunday. On the occasion of Election Day being in a week, allow me to say a few words about our relations as Christians to the Civil Power, and what can perhaps be said from a Catholic standpoint on the political movements now in motion. Now,” etc. etc. He will preach somewhen on such-like topic anyway. What’s so difficult about that? (Apart from the fact that this specific apart-from-the-texts sermon topic is rather difficult?)

    Or about something that happened in the parish? Or about the path from Christmas to Easter?

    If you don’t want to talk about pre-Lent as such, let others do so and find some other topic. Right?
14. Panterina says:

    18 February 2025 at 7:47 PM

    1.Rb4 and now black is in Zugzwang. If black’s Bc3 moves anywhere, then 2.Rh3#. If black’s Bc4 moves, then 2.Rh4#.

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