ASK FATHER: If the priest says an invalid absolution and I drop dead after… what happens to me?

From a reader…

QUAERITUR:

Father, a question – if a penitent is in a state of mortal sin, and they go to confess their sins to a priest, and the penitent does everything necessary on their part for the sacrament to be valid, but then priest uses an invalid form of absolution – and the penitent may well have insufficient theological and liturgical knowledge to know that invalid form is invalid – is the penitent still in a state of mortal sin? If they have a sudden heart attack and die on their way out of the confessional, did they die in a state of mortal sin?

Frankly, we can’t know for sure about the state of the person in that scenario.  However, I think our God is a loving and merciful God, who knows us better than we know ourselves.

Just as “baptism of desire” is a thing, whereby the person isn’t baptized but God treats him as if he were, especially because he would have been if he could have been, I suppose that God will be merciful to the penitent sinner who has done his very best to confess all mortal sins in kind and number, with a firm purpose of amendment, and then longs for valid absolution.    Through no fault of his own he was denied valid absolution.   If he didn’t know enough to raise a question, he is not to blame.

How well this question underscores the importance of knowing by heart and really meaning a good, traditional Act of Contrition.  We should know it, understand all its components, and truly mean it when we say it both in and out of the confessional.  And we should say it often, as part of our regular prayers along with Acts of Faith, Hope, and Love. After all… we never know.

AND GO TO CONFESSION!

This raises a question, however, of ignorance which is either culpable or inculpable, ignorance of something important that we, as Catholics ought to know and, through our own fault haven’t made the effort to learn, or something important which is outside the normal stream of things Catholics could be expected to know.

If a priest doesn’t know what the true form of absolution is, and he blithely blathers in the confessional, I hold that he is culpably ignorant.  He is guilty of sin in regard to his lack of knowledge of something so fundamental to his work as a priest that he cannot be excused for not knowing it.   We hold doctors and dentists, etc., to know the basics of their trade and we hold them guilty if they don’t or if they don’t make some effort to stay abreast of new developments and to refresh their knowledge.  So too with priests.

Priests need refreshers and continuing education.  Priests need to know the basics.   A soldier or other warfighter who doesn’t know how to operate properly the system of weapon he has been given, such that in the fight he chokes and fumbles, endangers the mission and the lives of his squad.   He and his team and his officers are guilty for his incompetence.

Likewise, in the Church if a priest doesn’t know the form of absolution, or he is using the wrong form of absolution such that people get out of the confessional either scratching their heads or else not absolved, there will be actual hell to pay in the judgment of his formators and his superiors.

Is a woman employed by the French Department of a university a good professor if she can’t read French well enough to get through a novel by Victor Hugo?   And who hired her?  Who gave her her degree in the first place?

Is a priest of the Latin Church, of the Roman Rite, fully trained and equipped if he doesn’t know the language of his Church and Rite, Latin, and doesn’t know to celebrate both the Novus and Vetus Ordo?   NO.

And who is to blame for his not being properly trained?

BISHOPS.   They control the seminaries.  They control the curricula.

So, if a man does his best in the confessional and the dopey priest, for whatever reason, doesn’t give him a valid absolution, and if the penitent drops dead of a heart attack two steps away from the confessional door, is he doomed?

I can’t bring myself to think that he is.  I trust in God’s mercy.

On the other hand, I tremble for that priest in his particular judgment.

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ASK FATHER: Why do bishops tuck their crosses under their jackets.

From a  reader…

QUAERITUR:

Thank you for your excellent blog! Can you explain why some bishops hide their pectoral crosses by pulling the cross across the chest and tucking it under their jackets? There is something a bit disturbing about it as it feels as though they are deliberately hiding the cross, and it’s something I’ve wondered about for a long time. Thank you for your insight in this small matter. And may God bless you!

Ah!  Finally a break from the insignificant stuff, like validity of sacraments, to something really important: ecclesiastical haberdashery.

I have never been a bishop and I have never played one on TV.  I did in a play, once, but that’s another universe away.    My point is that I have never had to deal with wearing a pectoral cross on a daily, all day, basis.   Therefore, my speculation is worth precisely what it is worth.

I suspect that the tendency of bishops, when wearing a suit (in Italian: in borghese) to tuck their pectoral crosses into their pockets is more a practical matter than a statement of meager faith or cowardice in view of bearing witness to their faith.   I suspect that the cross “gets in the way” a lot.  “Which the irony is rich!”, as Preserved Killick would say.

Cf. 1 Corinthians 1:23

Back in the day, bishops wore their cassocks.  Back in the same day, bishops did not just let their pectoral dangle on a too-longish chain, thus becoming an obstacle (there’s that irony again).  They would generally hoist the cross up (more irony) and with a hook suspend it from a button or from a specially placed button hole, thus letting the two slack lengths of chain drape to either side.   That was practical, because it kept the cross under control and it also looked spiffy.   There were, of course, variations and exceptions.  For example, you will see photos of John XXIII with the hitched up version and without.  But it is safe to say that was a general rule of style.

I wouldn’t read too much into it, except that right now, the hitched up version could signal a more traditional inclination.

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OLDIE POST: “Bob, you’ve been traded to Archdiocese of Red Bird.”

NOTA BENE: I originally posted this back in 2012.

I ran across this by chance looking for something else. It struck me as opportune, given what is going on in some places… the lot of some tradition-leaning priests.   It’s a bit ironic that, in 2012, the cleats were perhaps on the other foot.


I have watched Moneyball a couple times.

The movie offers grist for our mill.

In one scene Carlos Peña is curtly traded by the A’s to the Tigers because of internal team management (vision) conflicts.

Priests are mostly treated like indentured servants.  The “Dallas” thing made this worse.  The lack of charity and justice with with many priests have been treated should fill many with concern and anger.

Leaving aside – without question – all cases of priests who commit crimes, could a baseball model work better?

After all, this isn’t a game we are playing!

In Moneyball, the main characters want to get the stats down to one number. The overriding task of the Church is to get as many people as possible to heaven (i.e., keep them out of hell).

Sooooo….

A scene at the chancery of the Diocese of Black Duck:

“Hey Bob, do you have a moment?  Have a seat…..

[Father “Just Call Me Bob” Liberal sits down in Msgr. Manager’s office.]

“Father Bob, you’ve been traded to the Archdiocese of Red Bird.  Here is the number for Msgr. Rossi’s office.  He is their Manager and he is expecting your call.  Good luck and God bless you, Father!”

Later, in Red Bird, Msgr. Rossi receives Father’s call:

“Bob!  I’ve been expecting your call.  Welcome to the Archdiocese of Red Bird!  We believe with the Cardinal Archbishop, Bob, that you’ll be a fine fit with our diocese’s “Spirit of Vatican II vision”. His Eminence wanted me to tell you that you will be a great asset here as chaplain to the Aging Post Catholic Lesbian Sisters Who Evolved Out Of Perpetual Adoration Of Jesus In The Poor-Oppressing Bejeweled Monstrance.  Check your email for your airline ticket.  We have already contacted a moving company for you, Bob.  Your condo is ready. See you soon!”

And so, the small market Black Ducks, who because of a shift to a more traditional Catholic vision has been ordaining 6 men a year – good farm teams in parishes and from elsewhere – send the 55-year old liberal “Bob” to the big market Red Birds – who ordained 1  and where his liberal vision is still the norm.  In exchange, the Black Ducks receive 2 younger priests. Their love of the older liturgical forms made them sub-optimal for the Red Birds. The Black Ducks also picked up a priest-canonist who had to refused to rubber stamp annulments at the Red Bird Tribunal.

Baseball is the game God loves the most.

Is it analogous to how the Church is might be governed?

I dunno. Maybe.  Maybe I am just venting even as I throw out some ideas for discussion.

Consider: Isn’t this how bishops are handled these days?

In the ancient Church, moving a bishop from a diocese (to which they had been wedded) to another diocese was considered adultery.  That model has, it seems, changed.

Obligatory membership in territorial parishes is all but over. Law will eventually reflect this change (unless the global economy collapses first and people can’t just drive around anymore).

Incardination is less than the vinculum particolare that the Council Father’s idealized.  The assignment of priests to parishes is limited to 6 years with a possible renewal.  What’s with that?  Can a priest really do anything in a parish in that time?  I think not.

Everyone is on the move.  If lay people have multiple careers, well….

Since dioceses and parishes are so heterogeneous these days, well….

There are lessons to be learned from the scenario in Moneyball.

Given our challenges right now, we have to think outside the box.

First, let’s accept that our entire Church is “an island of misfit toys”.  Nevertheless, some toys can fit better in, and be happier in, another “fit”.  Then “market forces” can take over… okay… call it divine providence.

We have to depend on Our Lord’s promises to the Church.  Christ didn’t promise that the Church would prevail against Hell in the Diocese of Black Duck, but we know that He uses us for His plan and purposes.  We must use our gifts and work out in prayer and in the tangle of our minds and with the help of grace and from history to discern His will.

As times change, the basics remain the same.

We must, however, change our approaches at the times require.

So.

“Father, have a seat…”

Yes? No?

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UPDATE: Wherein the Bishop of Black Duck gives pastoral care to a pro-abortion ‘c’atholic politician

UPDATE: 27 May 2021

I’ve lately read that some 60 bishops are pressuring that the issue of Communion for pro-abortion politicians NOT be even be discussed at the USCCB meeting.   I don’t get it.   The Lord says that if there a problem with one of the brethren, after talking with him about it first, and if that doesn’t help take it to the Church.   But no bishops don’t want to talk about something that is really serious and a public scandal.  They don’t want to talk about upholding the law they took oaths to uphold.    What with that?   Talk about and then vote on it.

In any event, I saw this snippet with Bp. Paprocki, Bishop of Illinois’ state capital.  I thought it a good addition to my earlier post.

___ Originally Posted on: May 18, 2021

On 7 May 2021, the Prefect of the CDF, Card. Ladaria, sent a Letter to Archbp. Gomez, currently President of the USCCB.  The letter addresses the issue of the formation of a national policy about Communion for public figures who support and promote moral evils.

Ladaria’s letter is not all that it could be (as Fr. Murray pointed out).  It isn’t really all that much, as a matter of fact.  It repeats – and this is not bad – what has been said before.  That said, constant repetition without subsequent action demonstrates weakness or … worse.    Incessant reference to dialogue, when for decades with the same people dialogue has been entirely fruitless, is tantamount to Samuel Beckett’s oft quoted phrase:

All of old. Nothing else ever. Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

When it comes to bringing these public figures around by dialogue, the US bishops are getting better and better at failing.

The other day pro-abortion Nancy Pelosi told a reporter who asked about her Archbishop’s (Cordileone) letter concerning Communion and support of abortion:

“I think I can use my own judgment on that but I’m pleased with what the Vatican put out on that subject. Did you read that?”

Dialogue isn’t going to cut it with the likes of Pelosi and Biden.  Not by itself.

Archbp. Cordileone responded to Pelosi’s remark with a statement.  He repeated what Pelosi already knows, the number of the unborn who did not come to light because of abortion.  Just before the end of his statement he also repeated what Card. Ratzinger wrote in 2004 to US Bishops (which McCarrick lied about):

[Ratzinger] goes on to say in that letter that, if these dialogues

prove to be fruitless, then, out of respect for the Catholic belief of what it means to receive Holy Communion, the bishop must declare that the individual is not be admitted to Communion.

However, Cordileone concludes:

Speaker Pelosi’s positive reaction to Cardinal Ladaria’s letter, then, raises hope that progress can be made in this most serious matter.

With due respect to His Excellency, if Nancy Pelosi is pleased with what Ladaria wrote to Archbp. Gomez, that must give us pause.   If Fishwrap’s Madame Defarge is pleased with Ladaria’s letter, we should hope for a better letter in the near future.

We will agree that dialogue has to continue.   At the same time other means should be applied.  Maybe… maybe… Cordileone is establishing the groundwork.

Here’s is another way of approaching pro-abortion catholic pols beyond “sola sermocinatio“.

The esteemed Bishop of Black Duck, Most Rev. Jude Noble, would surely write the following to the notorious pro-abortion Mayor of his See’s city.

The Honorable
Nanette Harry
Mayor of Black Duck

Your Honor,

You recently made a statement reported by the press in which you said that you would “make up your own mind” about receiving Holy Communion even after having been instructed multiple times about supporting the evil of abortion.

Your recent statement has brought me to make up my mind.

Given your unswerving support of and promotion of abortion, and given your apparent unwillingness to change your position and make public reparation for the scandal you have caused, in my role as your bishop and in accordance with Can. 915 of the 1983 Code of Canon Law, I herewith admonish you, Mayor Harry, not to present yourself for Holy Communion within the Diocese of Black Duck.

I have also made a public statement about the same.

Moreover, I have issued a directive, also made public, to all the priests serving in the diocese that they are not to admit you to Holy Communion until after such a time as you make a public statement that you regret all your efforts to promote the grave evil of abortion and that you shall endeavor to make some kind of reparation for the damage that you have done.

As your bishop, I also admonish you not to receive Holy Communion anywhere outside this diocese.

I ask my brother bishops everywhere to respect my decision on this matter.

Because you, as Mayor of Black Duck, are a national figure, I invite all my brother bishops of this nation to help me in my pastoral concern on your behalf.   I ask them to defend the Church’s teaching, uphold the Canon Law, and correct among the faithful any false notions your history of support for abortion may have fostered.

I am available to speak with you in private about this matter, to explain in detail why I am doing this and what it means.  Do not hesitate to contact me if you would like counsel about how to make reparation for your past public action in support of such a great moral evil.   I will also continue to speak in public about this matter.

Mayor Harry, for years I have faithfully urged you, with hope encouraged, and in charity pled that you to alter your stance on procured abortion.  Dialogue alone is no longer sufficient in itself.  My duty before the Savior, before the flock entrusted to me by the Church, and before your own soul, requires both the above and what follows.

I will pray for you every day and take on a penance for your intention.  I have invited all the priests of the diocese to do the same, in their own way.

Assuring you of my good will and prayerful best wishes, I am your devoted shepherd in Christ,

+ Jude Noble
Bishop of Black Duck

 

 

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The list is growing.

The list is growing… of persecuted priests.

I understand that there is a fund to help Fr. Parker. HERE

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ASK FATHER: When giving me absolution, Father did not say “ALL your sins”. Was that invalid?

From a reader….

QUAERITUR:

At my last Confession, during the absolution, the priest said: “I absolve you from your sins, in the name, etc.” Note that he did not say “from ALL your sins”. Does this mean the absolution is invalid? Any information you can offer me on this topic is greatly appreciated. Thank You.

It is a pleasure to be able to answer this question.  Usually when I get questions about the form of absolution it has to do with Fr. Jackass who screwed around with the form, thus sewing doubt in the minds of penitents about whether or not their sins were forgiven.

Fathers!  DON’T SCREW AROUND WITH THE FORMS OF SACRAMENTS.

If you heard the priest say “I absolve you from your sins, in the name, etc.”, that’s the proper and valid form.     The proper form does not include “all”.

The post-Conciliar, Novus Ordo form:

Deus, Pater misericordiárum, qui per mortem et resurrectiónem Fílii sui mundum sibi reconciliávit et Spíritum Sanctum effúdit in remissiónem peccatórum, per ministérium Ecclésiæ indulgéntiam tibi tríbuat et pacem. Et ego te absolvo a peccatis tuis in nomine Patris, et Filii,+ et Spiritus Sancti. Amen.

God, the Father of mercies, through the death and resurrection of his Son has reconciled the world to himself and sent the Holy Spirit among us for the forgiveness of sins; through the ministry of the Church may God give you pardon and peace, and I absolve you from your sins in the name of the Father, and of the Son, + and of the Holy Spirit. Amen.

The traditional form, also used today freely by any Latin Church priest confessor:

Dominus noster Jesus Christus te absolvat; et ego auctoritate ipsius te absolvo ab omni vinculo excommunicationis (suspensionis) et interdicti in quantum possum et tu indiges. Deinde, ego te absolvo a peccatis tuis in nomine Patris, et Filii, + et Spiritus Sancti. Amen.

May our Lord Jesus Christ absolve you; and I, by His authority, absolve you from every bond of excommunication (suspension) and interdict, in as much as I am able and you require. + Thereupon, I absolve you from your sins in the name of the Father, and of the Son, + and of the Holy Spirit. Amen.

In both cases, no “omnibus/cunctis… all”.

Also, there were a couple of additional, and beautiful, prayers in the traditional form which could for a good reason be omitted.

If the priest were to say “all”, that would not invalidate the absolution.   But the priest should not say “all” because “all” is NOT part of the form.

So, friend, your priest seems to have stuck to the form…. though you didn’t include the first part.   One assumes that he stuck to the form.   Provided that you did your best to confess in kind and number all your mortal sins, were sincerely sorry, and had a firm purpose of amendment, you are good to go.  The sins you forgot are also wiped away in that confession.

There is nothing so bad that one of us little mortals can do that the infinite power of our loving God can’t remedy, provided we ask for forgiveness.   And the way God wanted us to receive forgiveness and restoration for post-baptismal sins is precisely through the Sacrament of Penance which He instituted.

On that note… everyone…

GO TO CONFESSION!

ADDENDUM: 28 May 2021:

From a reader…

QUAERITUR:

Two days ago, I went to confession. The confessor, however, changed the wording of the new rite form to say “I absolve you from your GUILT”, not “sins”. Was this invalid?

That was INVALID.

This priest should be given a copy of the true form of absolution.  If he persists in using the wrong form, invalid form, he should be reported to the local bishop, in writing, and with a view to informing the Congregation.

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Two portentous items: wonders in the heavens above

Today during Holy Mass for Ember Wednesday in the Octave of Pentecost, I read in Latin from Acts 2 what Peter said about the End Times…

I will show wonders in the heavens above and signs on the earth beneath, blood and fire and vapor of smoke. The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the day of the Lord comes, the great and manifest day. And it shall come to pass that whoever calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

As it turns out, on this very day the moon did turn into blood.  Today there was a Blood Supermoon Total Lunar Eclipse.  The Moon is closest to the Earth in its elliptical orbit, and because it appears larger we call it a Supermoon.

Also, I note that at SpaceWeather, a CME struck the planet, which sparked a geomagnetic storm.  Watch for aurora.

The Sun is waking up from “solar minimum”.  There will be more sunspots, to the delight of ham radio operators everywhere.  However, NASA’s Solar Dynamic Observatory has noted a strange sunspot.  It is ring-shaped, which is weird, but it is also “sideways”.  The magnetic field of sunspots is general aligned East-West.  This one is aligned North-South, perpendicular to the Sun’s equator.

What does this mean?

I have absolutely no idea.

However, I do find it interesting that we read about a Blood Moon at Holy Mass on the very day of a Blood Supermoon.

“Wonders in the heavens”.

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