ASK FATHER: Interfaith marriage – Catholic and Muslim

From a reader…

QUAERITUR:

Hello Father, i have a question about interfaith marriages. I’m Muslim and the woman I’ve been thinking of marrying a nondenominational Christian, but she fears it is sinful, there is a verse that suggests not to be unequally yoked with a nonbeliever, but i argue that Muslims are believers, for the reason we believe in Jesus Christ, and God with the capital G. I would love to hear your interpretation of such issue.

GUEST PRIEST RESPONSE: Fr. T. Ferguson

I can only speak from the Catholic perspective. A marriage between a Catholic and an unbaptized person can only be allowed if the bishop grants a dispensation.

This is out of a recognition of the great difficulty (not impossibility) of the success of a marriage between one person who believes that Jesus Christ is the sole source of salvation, and the Sacraments of the Church are the vehicle used to effect that salvation for a believe, and another person who does not believe this.

How is this disagreement solved in a marriage? By avoiding the issue? By constant bickering?

Moslems may “believe” in Jesus Christ, but they do not believe Him to be the only begotten Son of God, nor do they believe Him to be the sole source of salvation, otherwise they would not be Muslims.

Christians and Muslims also have strong differences in their understanding of marriage.

Muslims believe that the marriage contract can be voided. Either party is free to seek divorce. Christians (though many denominations have neglected this teaching) accept Jesus’ teaching that marriage is binding for life.

Those two very different understandings of the nature of marriage would seem to make a marriage between these two people difficult at best.

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ASK FATHER: Why is a Mass during Lent called “Sitientes”?

From a reader…

QUAERITUR:

Good morning, Father!
Greetings from snowy Colorado! I was setting up my new Android calendar on my phone because I’m no longer using google, etc.  As I was making notations for the TLM calendar for March 20, 2021, I saw this phrase on the FSSP calendar for the day: Feria of Lent (Sitientes)

I grabbed my trusty Dr. Traupman Latin/English dictionary: “adj thirsting, thirsty; arid, parched; parching; (w. gen) thirsting for, eager for ”

I looked it up online and could not find a liturgical explanation. Could you explain this, please?

Thank you very much! God reward you for what you do for us!
Pax et bonum!

Good question.  Thanks.

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Sitientes is what that Mass formulary is called because the first word of the first antiphon, or Introit, of the Mass is, in fact “Sitientes“.  “Sitientes, venite ad aquas, dicit Dominus…“.  This is the Mass formulary for the last day in Lent before Passiontide begins, in other words, Saturday in the 4th Week of Lent, just before 1st Passion Sunday.

Sometimes formularies are called by their Introits.  Say you are looking at Masses in the Common of Martyrs.  You will see the Mass “Statuit ei Dominus” or “Sacerdotes Dei” or “In virtute tua“, etc.   The Mass for Quinquagesima coming up can be called “Esto mihi“.

If you look at the great resource page latinmass.live right now you will see in the list of upcoming Masses that, at the beautiful church St. Eugene in Paris, tomorrow they will celebrate St. Scholastica with the Mass “Dilexisti“.  There are two Mass formularies “Pro virgine tantum”.  The first word of the Introit tells you which to follow.

That’s the story behind “Sitientes“.

Thanks for being thirsty for an explanation.

And as a bonus, here the Introit Sitientes sung by the nuns of Santa María de Benifassà.

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“Prisoner 5993, you have been denounced as having attempted to communicate with a mythical transcendent being for the sake of petitioning a selfish and criminal outcome.”

At First Things read this carefully: “Prohibiting Prayer in Australia” by Carl R. Trueman

The core with my emphases and comments:

[…]

The state of Victoria in Australia … just passed a bill that will considerably intensify the conflict between religious freedom, individual choice, and identity politics. And it might well become a model for laws elsewhere in the democratic world.

The legislation that just passed is the Change or Suppression (Conversion) Practices Prohibition Bill 2020. Its basic intention is “to ensure that all people, regardless of sexual orientation or gender identity, feel welcome and valued in Victoria and are able to live authentically and with pride.” It is hard to argue with that, both because the aim seems laudable enough (who wants to live in a place where she does not feel valued?) and because it embodies the nebulous jello-speak of our current therapeutic age. Feeling valued and living authentically are useful, empty phrases that sound wonderfully reassuring but can be given whatever content the month dictates. [This could also describe the state of belief in the Church’s teaching on the Eucharist in many places, where not the Catholic Faith reigns but rather a moralistic (or not!) therapeutic deism.] I assume, or at least hope, that those whose “sexual orientation” leads them to abuse underage minors are unlikely to feel welcome and valued in Victoria despite this new legislation.

The law defines a change or suppression practice as follows:

a practice or conduct directed towards a person, whether with or without the person’s consent on the basis of the person’s sexual orientation or gender identity; and for the purpose of changing or suppressing the sexual orientation or gender identity of the person; or inducing the person to change or suppress their sexual orientation or gender identity.Note that the consent of the person is immaterial to the legal point: The change or suppression practice is illegal regardless of the attitude of the person involved.

But the really important part of the bill from a religious perspective is its list of “change or suppression practices.” This includes: “carrying out a religious practice, including but not limited to, a prayer-based practice, a deliverance practice or an exorcism.

[NB…] In short, if someone asks a pastor, a priest, or a Christian friend to pray for him that his sexual desires or gender dysphoria might be changed, that pastor, priest, or friend runs the risk of committing a criminal offense. Presumably this also applies to parents praying for their children—or perhaps even parents teaching their children that untrammeled expressions of sexual desire (at least within the canons of contemporary bourgeois taste) are inappropriate.

This provision is clearly not based on any coherent metaphysical objection to the practice of prayer. If the legislators believe God exists, they presumably believe that he is wise enough to ignore such prayers if they are indeed truly harmful. And if they do not think he exists, then it seems reasonable to assume they would regard such prayer as a rather pointless, even nonsensical, exercise.

[…]

Again, the concept of coherence enters in, as it did in Weigel’s piece the other day about abortion promoting Catholic politicians, Communion, and the bishops who won’t act like bishops.

But that’s the inevitable liberal outcome, isn’t it: truth isn’t rooted in anything objective, it is rooted in how much power I have over you, in my will.  It is the lie of the serpent in the garden: You shall be as gods, determining your truths.  No matter matter if other people have their own truths that differ from yours: you are more powerful than they are, so they are screwed and your truth prevails.  Black is white, up is down, in is out, 2+2=5, women can be ordained, adulterers can receive Communion, masks are a sacrament… whatever the hell they want you to accept.

Scene: an interrogation room with a one-way glass window by a heavy metal door.  Guards with truncheons flank a uniformed interrogator of indeterminate sex.  From above the window, bright lights are focused on a man shackled to the opposing wall.

“Prisoner 5993, you have been denounced as having attempted to communicate with a mythical transcendent being for the sake of petitioning a selfish and criminal outcome.  In outdated terms, you “prayed”.  Your accuser, an autonomous individual with whom you share DNA from the same biological pairing, filed a charge of praying against you.  Your DNA corelative stated that, in the time before the Great Reset, xe had fallen into the error of questioning xis desire to alter xis gender identity and asked you to pray for xem, because you were, at the time, still involved in the illegal activity of a so-called ‘priest’.”

The interrogator swipes through some views on a hand-held screen.

“While you offered those infamous petitions before the change to the laws of this now free and borderless domain, Article 2 of the Democrat Reset Reformation Act makes that which is now criminal also retroactively criminal and subject to the Pelosi guidelines of the Build Back Better Proclamation.”

More screens are consulted.

“It appears, Prisoner 5993, that you have also been observed moving your lips when alone while – and we can hardly bring ourselves to say this – you have been present with us as a recipient of the State’s benevolent rehabilitation efforts.  That constitutes a crime under Ordinance 32 of the Harris Act, which specifically outlaws attempts to communicate with mythical beings deemed by the ignorant to be transcendent.”

The guards being to tap their truncheons into their free hands.

The interrogator turns to address those who are unseen behind the glass.

“Prisoner 5593’s lack of gratitude and attitude of defiance even while receiving such munificent remedial treatment has been noted.  As a result of xis unacceptable defiance, it has been deemed both necessary and generous to make certain adjustments to xis program of self-recognition and renewal.  This decision for continued forbearance is for the moment taken in place of the usual proscription and termination. Please make the official log entry after witnessing the State’s leniency.  Please begin the video recording for for educational broadcasts.  Ministers of grace, please apply the Prisoner’s care.”

The guards take a step forward.

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ASK FATHER: A one-page info sheet to help get the TLM started in a parish. ACTION ITEM!

From a reader…

QUAERITUR:

We’ve communicated a few times in the past concerning efforts to get the TLM going our parish. Thanks for your advice and input along the way. We are making progress.

Can you suggest a simple one-pager that could be made available to first-time attendees at the TLM to help them follow along and get the big picture? If not, what would you suggest?

I found Treasure and Tradition a great resource as a follow-up for those who want to understand and appreciate the Mass at a deeper level.

Looking for something much simpler and easy to absorb, if there is anything.

I figured you would know about it if there is anything. Thanks again for all your help.

Firstly, I can’t speak highly enough of Treasure and Tradition.  It is spectacular.  US HERE  There is also a Spanish version.  HERE  Also, if you buy in quantity directly from the publisher, St Augustine Academy Press, there is a discount.

To your question: a simple one-pager.

I don’t have one.   However, I’ll bet there are some readers, including priests who have implemented the TLM in their parishes, who have created something like that.   It could be good to gather them into one place (here!) for people to use as starting points for their own parish’s liturgical catechesis.

I invite any of you readers out there to send me via email the resources you created… bulletin series, inserts, pamphlets, etc.   Write to me HERE.  Put TLM RESOURCE in the subject line.  I’ll write back and you can, in response, attach your scans, files, or photos of your examples.  I’ll see what I can do about putting them into a useable format for consultation.

This was a good question with a good idea.

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Is survival mode all we have now?

No one can give what they don’t have.  In fun-Latin, nemo dat quod non ‘got’.  And yet the universal vocation to evangelize is predicated on what we have, what we have received.

We haven’t been evangelizing well.  Rather, we seems to be more and more, in the presently ascendant institution which is the Church, “conformed to the wisdom of this world” (Rom 12:2), which, while it is the smoother path and the one to chimeric success, is actually “folly with God” (1 Cor 3:19).

We haven’t been evangelizing, because we haven’t been handing down and receiving what has always been handed down.

Yet, the urgency of evangelization is greater than ever.

Or … are we prepared simply to batten down the hatches on the Barque, close up the gun ports and cut away the ropes and spars that have been brought down to the decks in our recent engagements?  Cut them loose with crew still clinging and then run before the wind of secular mores?

That’s one approach.

It might be the only one for now, since we don’t have any other coherent plans in the offing.

Maybe survival mode is all we have now.

In a piece at Catholic World Report George Weigel addressed the crisis – yes, crisis – in the Church that is provoked by “Eucharistic incoherence”.

Given that Catholic Joe Biden, a perennial promoter of abortion and also same-sex marriage, receives Communion with the blessing of the local bishop is nothing short of a crisis of incoherence, especially of what the Church has taught about the Eucharist for millennia. In modern times, John Paul II issued Ecclesia de Eucharistia… the Church from the Eucharist.  Then-Card. Bergoglio signed a document of conferences of Latin America, the Aparecida Document, which Weigel reminds us “insisted on ‘Eucharistic coherence’ in their Catholic communities.”  Namely,

“the Church’s Eucharistic coherence required that holy communion not be distributed to those Catholics in politics and medical practice who were not in full communion with the Church because they were facilitating or participating in such grave moral evils as abortion and euthanasia.”

You’ve seen the numbers about how many Catholics believe in what the Church teaches about the Eucharist.  They are pretty low.  Frankly, I’m surprised that they are as high as they are, given the appalling catechesis, preaching and liturgical worship of the last decades.

Consider also the issue of Mass attendance on what used to be “the Lord’s Day”, Dies Dominica.

I suspect that in many places the average Catholic notion about the Sunday worship and Eucharist runs along these lines: “They put the white thing in our hand and then we sing a song.”   Everyone is happy because they all feel like they belong to the club.  They got the white thing which means there is no judgmentalism.

There is nothing coherent, in a truly Catholic sense, about that, and yet that seems to be the prevailing state of affairs.

Our Catholic identity flows from the Eucharist and returns us to the Eucharist.  It is an existential dynamic summed up in the phrase of ancient martyrs of Abitinae, used as a title for a book by Bp. Schneider, “sine dominico non possumus…  without that which pertains to the Lord (Sunday and Eucharist) we … just can’t, we cannot live, cannot go on”.    The Acts of the Martyrs says that when the Christians were interrogated about having met on Sunday, their leaders said: “As if a Christian could be without the Sunday Eucharist, or the Sunday Eucharist could be celebrated without there being a Christian! Don’t you know, Satan, that it is the Sunday Eucharist which makes the Christian and the Christian that makes the Sunday Eucharist, so that one cannot subsist without the other, and vice versa?”

This is one of the reasons why I keep saying that WE ARE OUR RITES.

Our beliefs form our rites, which in turn shape who we are and what we believe, and as an inexorable consequence how we are to live as Christians in this world, dominated as it is by its Prince.

We are our rites.

There is an order, a hierarchy to our loves and activities. At the pinnacle we find that which we owe to God. All things follow after. What we owe to God is governed by the virtue of Religion. Just as Justice guides what we owe to fellow human persons, Religion does so for what we owe to God, a qualitatively different person, divine. The principle thing that we owe to God is loving worship.   Proper liturgical worship is the first, foremost way we fulfill the virtue of Religion, as individuals, families, communities… as a Church.

If we are screwed up, individually or collectively, in the matter of the virtue of Religion, then everything else in our lives is going to be screwed up.

The Church is screwed up in large part because our sacred liturgical worship is screwed up.

Our rites are a mess today and the manifestation of the mess is a vast swathe for whom the Eucharist Host is like a token of club membership that can blithely be given even to someone who blatantly works against the tenets of the club.

Coherent sacred liturgical worship is an essential element of any way forward toward evangelization. Heck. It’s about survival now. The Lord promised that the Church would prevail against Hell, but He didn’t say it would prevail in these United States. Consider the mighty, vital Churches of ancient Asia Minor and of North Africa. What we have can be lost, as is being lost, at an ever accelerating rate. Motus in finem velocior. When full-scale revolution finally burst out of the preparatory stage, it happens fast. That goes for the Church as well.

That the spirit of revolutionary change, which has long been disturbing the Church throughout the world, should have passed beyond the sphere of liturgical worship and made its influence felt in the cognate spheres of faith and morals is not surprising.

It is good for Roman Catholics to know, for the sake of your Roman Catholic identity, that your ancient brethren looked on anything new with severe suspicion. The very term in Latin for “revolution” is res novae, “new things”, and it always has a negative connotation.  Think Leo XIII and his foundational encyclical,

“That the spirit of revolutionary change [rerum novarum], which has long been disturbing the nations of the world, should have passed beyond the sphere of politics and made its influence felt in the cognate sphere of practical economics is not surprising. The elements of the conflict now raging are unmistakable,… The momentous gravity of the state of things now obtaining fills every mind with painful apprehension; wise men are discussing it; practical men are proposing schemes; popular meetings, legislatures, and rulers of nations are all busied with it – actually there is no question which has taken deeper hold on the public mind.”

No new initiative we undertake in the Church is going to succeed unless we revitalize our sacred liturgical worship and seek to fulfill the virtue of Religion, to give God what is His due.  Everything we do must flow from the Eucharist – by which we must understand both the sacred Eucharistic species and also its celebration which is Holy Mass.  Everything we do must then be brought back to the Eucharist.

Let us recover what we’ve lost.  We’ve gone down the wrong road for too long and we are paying the price.  As in geometry, the farther two rays extend from a point, the farther apart they get.  As in making a journey, if you want to get from, say, Wisconsin to Florida and, after driving for a long time, discover you are at the Canadian border, you would do well to turn around, retrace your MISTAKE, and start again on the right road.  As a matter of fact, you would be stupid to keep driving north.

The losses were incremental.  The recovery will be incremental.

Among the things that we can do relatively quickly are reinstitute many of our devotional practices: recitation of the Rosary (perhaps with a priest in the confessional), exposition and benediction (perhaps with a priest in the confessional), novenas on weeknights (perhaps with a priest in the confessional), processions, litanies, vespers, Forty Hours.

FORTY HOURS!   If there was ever a time in the life of the Church when we needed to recover the practice of FORTY HOURS DEVOTION… not pretend Forty Hours… not dumbed-down Forty Hours… not updated (see previous) Forty Hour… but REAL Forty Hours, it’s now.  Undiluted… unblended… undaunted… unmodified… unapologetic… traditional Forty Hours Devotion.

Thus endeth the rant.

We are our rites.

God, Our Father, with Your mighty steering hand guide Your priests and bishops out of the fog of worldly notions and onto a course of true renewal.

God, Our Savior and High Priest, chart onto the minds and hearts of Your sons a destination of a traditional priestly identity for our turbulent context here and now.

God, Holy Spirit, fill Your sons with zeal and with the courage to persevere when stormy resistance will rise from the agents of the Enemy.

Mary, Queen of the Clergy, put your protecting mantle over your sons who will be persecuted by their brethren and superiors when they implement traditional worship.

St. Joseph, Protector of Christ, Protector of the Church, guide the efforts of your sons to build up the Temple of God for worthy worship according to the virtue of Religion.

Holy Angels, guard us from evil and prompt us to do good.

 

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Your Sunday Sermon Notes – Sexagesima Sunday (NO – 5th Ordinary) 2021

Was there a GOOD point made in the sermon you heard at the Mass for your Sunday (obligation or none), either live or on the internet? Let us know what it was.

Too many people today are without good, strong preaching, to the detriment of all. Share the good stuff.

Also, are your churches opening up? What was attendance like?

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Sammons: “Will Catholic Ever Return to Mass?”

At Crisis there is a piece by Eric Sammons from January which echoes what I have been writing about, what I call the “demographic sinkhole” that has been opening up under the Church for some time now.  The “beige” will fall through this sinkhole and vanish from our churches.   As a matter of fact, our churches will disappear as well.  COVID-1984, which I am convinced is also literally cursed, has accelerated the opening of this sinkhole.  And don’t rule out open persecution.

I have a sense that only the stronger identity groups will remain practicing and vibrant and they will find their source of strength in traditional worship.

Sammons’ piece is entitled “Will Catholic Ever Return to Mass?”

His prognostication is less than rosy.   As he points out, in the 70’s 55% of Catholics in these USA went to Sunday Mass.  In 2019 that dropped to about 20%.  Now… around 5%, given that virtually all dioceses forbade going to Mass for some time.   Once things open back up again… if they are ever allowed to…

From Sammons:

The question that currently hovers over every chancery and rectory in America is this: will they ever come back? Will the Catholic Church in America see a return to pre-2020 numbers, which were already quite dreadful, but weren’t as catastrophic as now? No one knows the answer to that question, but I don’t think Church leaders should have high hopes.

As I’ve detailed elsewhere, the Catholic Church in America was facing a demographic collapse before the Age of Covid. Since 2000, the number of infant baptisms—one of the best indicators of the health of the Church—has plummeted more than 40% after it had remained relatively steady from 1975-2000. And there were no signs that this trend was reversing before 2020. Now add to that the following realities: (1) our bishops, whether intentionally or unintentionally, have signaled to the world that attending Mass is “non-essential;” (2) lifelong Mass-going habits have now been broken; and (3) many parishes are so vigorous in their COVID-19-restrictions that they’ve become less welcoming than an East German Stasi house call. Add it all up, and you’ve got a recipe for empty churches.

A recipe for empty churches.

And yet, where Tradition is tried, things look a lot brighter.

But don’t worry, dear readers, our inventive and committed leaders will find the right combinations of programs and pamphlets and reassuring declarations which will inspire all those lapsed Catholics to return and will win over new flocks of converts. The key will be to make the Church more attractive to the secularized by secularizing the Church. That’ll do it. We have to make sure people know how committed we are to saving the planet from climate change, diminishing the differences between world faiths, and, you know, making sure we don’t discriminate based on our many genders.

You might check out Sammons’ suggestions. They are grim, but they may be realistic.

Orrrr… we can keep doing what we are doing.

Maybe it’s time to stop marginalizing and persecuting those who desire traditional expressions of the faith.

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