“Dominus vobiscum”…What the…??

I am sure more than one of you have been wondering what the heck is going on in papal liturgies.  If the Holy Father wants more Latin, why isn’t their more Latin in his Masses right?

On this note, I saw an amusing picture at The Crescat.


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  1. Jennifer says:

    Hahahah! That made me laugh out loud… thanks for that, Fr. Z ;)

  2. danphunter1 says:

    What kind of chausable’s are thier Eminence’s wearing?
    They look like African bowling mu-mu’s.

  3. LOL
    [sprays keyboard with coffee]

    Too easy to think that really happens.

  4. Patrick Kinsale says:

    Father, you didn’t answer the question. Also, the Holy Father, in so me of his writings, seemed to like the idea of Mass ad orientem, and yet …

  5. Patrick Kinsale,

    I believe that the Holy Father says his private Masses every morning ad orientum. As for the High Altar in St. Peter’s Basilica, it always faced that way, towards the East (while some churches might be content with “Liturgical East” even if they are really facing North, in Rome that tradition has always been more rigid).

  6. Sarafino says:

    As we all know, after waiting endlessly for the MP, our Holy Father seems to be taking his time in matters liturgical. We must trust that he knows what he is doing! Viva il papa! Viva l’Italia!


  7. What does a mu mu look like?These chasubles look like what they are supposed to be a chasuble-casula,a little house.

  8. danphunter1 says:

    These look exactly like African bowling mu-mu,s
    They are without taste or beauty,objectively speaking.
    There are little consecutive bowling pins that appear in an African style moving across and down these completely unelegant little houses.
    Why is the beauty dead with the majority of these chausables.
    Most of the Roman Vestments seen are exquisite.
    Many Gothic likewise.
    These are not.
    God bless you,Father.

  9. Billie Chiricuzio says:

    Hope it works this time, I tried the I’m not impatient security word but it kept rejecting it until I became impatient.

    So I’ll try saving the world instead.

    But thanks for the good laugh, needed that today.

  10. Geri says:

    This made both me and my raised-Methodist-but-chant-loving-Latin-singing-incense-huffing-fervent-Catholic-convert husband laugh out loud!

    (Save the liturgy, save the world)

  11. Woody Jones says:

    The expressions on their faces are what really make this work. It is priceless. To their Eminences in the upper right hand corner: where are your hats?

  12. It appears that the chasubles are adorned with images of little white and black beer bottles

  13. Andrew says:

    Haha… glad my caption was raised to the glory of the title pic of the Crescat’s blog =)

  14. Andy S. says:


    Look in his hand.


    On the bright side, at least there are no iron-on felt grapes.

  15. TJM says:

    Is that Cardinal Mahony or Bishop Trautman speaking? Tom

  16. Matthew Mattingly says:

    Not amusing at all. I think we all have grossly overestimated Benedict XVI’s agenda and intentions regarding the liturgy.
    The Papal Masses, especially the “anything goes” liturgies in Brazil, proves it is still the same John Paul II style liturgies with no change for the better in sight.

  17. Doug says:

    These chasubles are the ones that were worn at the Papal Funeral of John Paul II. If I’m not mistaken, and I very well may be, they were also used at our Holy Father’s installation Mass. I think the Cardinal who is speaking is His Eminence Egan. It looks as though he’s speaking to His Eminence Keeler. If so, Egan won’t get any clarification from him!

  18. TJM says:

    I don’t wish to appear argumentative, but I watched Benedict’s
    Brazil Mass that was televised on EWTN and respectfully disagree
    that it was a re-tread of John Paul II’s style of celebration.
    The Pope’s vestments were more traditional, the arrangement of the
    altar was more traditional, there were no dancing girls or other
    strange insertions. I would agree that it did not meet His Holiness’s own test, i.e. Sacramentum Caritatis. In that I was disappointed. However, I believe Benedict is trying to “walk the cat back” slowly and I think we need to be a bit more patient. After all, if today we had a pope in the style of Paul VI, there would be no Sacramentum Caritatis, no mention of a Motu Proprio, and Ecclesia Dei would be disbanded. Tom

  19. Geri says:

    I believe Benedict is trying to “walk the cat back” slowly and I think we need to be a bit more patient.

    Marvelous image!
    I’m picturing Bento, the Lion Tamer, working not with whip and chair, but sheer force of personal holiness and intellect. (Or faith and reason, if you prefer.)

    (Save the liturgy, save the world.)

  20. Brian says:

    Comment by TJM: “Benedict is trying to “walk the cat back” slowly and I think we need to be a bit more patient. After all, if today we had a pope in the style of Paul VI, there would be no Sacramentum Caritatis, no mention of a Motu Proprio, and Ecclesia Dei would be disbanded.”

    Well said. The folks who are continually sour and bitter towards this Pope need to walk away from the internet and cuddle up with their Rosary and some lives of the saints. Daily mass wouldn’t hurt either, if they are not already doing so.

  21. Michael says:


    You didn’t really say, “Why isn’t their…”, did you?

  22. Tim Ferguson says:

    looking at that picture again – is that Cardinal Eagen? It sure looks like him. I believe he’s looking at Cardinal Keeler.

    I sense a Monte Python skit coming on: “How to recognize Cardinals from quite a long distance.”

  23. Chris Garton-Zavesky says:

    Surely the caption should be “how are we supposed to follow along?”

  24. shallow fashion guru says:

    Tiger stripe is just sooooooo John Paul 2.

  25. woodyjones says:

    Keep your noses to the grindstone. The greatest joy is the joy
    of duty. Work, work, work.

  26. Mary says:

    Actually, at the Second Sunday of Easter Mass this year in Piazza San Pietro, the –Eucharistic Dialogue I believe it’s called?–was in Italian in the booklet: “Il Signore sia con voi”, but the Pope did it in Latin, “Dominus vobiscum” and so on. I was quite excited. “Is this forgetfulness or deliberate? No–must chalk it up to deliberate.” I don’t know, but either way it made me happy.

  27. swmichigancatholic says:

    A great many of us cannot attend daily mass as we have to go to work early in the morning and there are few evening masses. You must live in a big city?

  28. swmichigancatholic says:

    When I see all the bishops dressed alike like this, it makes me laugh. Is this a modern thing? Who designs all this stuff? How much does it cost? Did they haul all this stuff to Latin America? Imagine having the power to dress all the bishops alike in public? That’s clout. Good thing it’s not me–I’d put them all in blue like the smurfs. ;)

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