I don’t even know what to say.
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The Blue Meanie Chasuble ?
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Really, Father Z, don’t be silly! That isn’t a chasuble, it’s a shower curtain!
Is that what they are going to make His Holiness wear at the Mass at the Basilica in Washington DC when he comes to America.
Gerald at the “Cafeteria is Closed” has photos of the abominable altar design that Bishop Wuerl is going to make the Vicar of Christ offer the Holy Sacrifice on.
Lord have Mercy.
Blue Meanies? This calls for a parody.
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In the town, where I was born
Was a Priest, who “knew the scene”
And he told me of a time
When Latin would be obscene.
So the Vatican we shunned
Till we found what was right for “we”
And we read our N.A.B.
Never thought about the Trinidine
We all live without the Trinidine,
without the Trinidine,without the Trinidine….
The one consolation in this picture? That beautiful crucifix on the wall! I wish someone took a picture of that instead!
Now that is a vestment that took my breath away, and almost my lunch.
No as I look at it again he isn’t going to say Mass. No, he is doing the chicken dance! To bad there isn’t a man with a hook to pull him out of there.
Hopefully the Mass was a full Beatle’s Mass with “Let It Be” sung as the gathering song, “My Sweet Lord” as the closing song, and maybe a couple of verses of “Lady Madonna” during Communion.
Whatever are these people thinking?
The one consolation in this picture?
I can think of another. We’re facing the crucifix with him.
“Look, up in the sky, it’s a bird, it’s a plane, no its “Superpriest.” If I saw this at Mass I would walk out to protect my eyesight. Tom
That cannot be a mass – he is not wearing an alb.
Scary isn’t it? Had this been a submission in the 2007 Ugliest Vestment Contest it might have won.
I wonder what liturgical season it is suppose to represent.
My 14 year old daughter: “Is that a rain poncho? I *hope* that’s a rain poncho…”
Is he about to celebrate Mass ad orientem?
Another consolation: the back of the chasuble is clearly meant to be seen, so it must have been designed for ad orientem use.
groovy man…
It looks like something out of a Pink Floyd psychedelic nightmare.
I through up a whole bag of Doritos in college, once, and it looked like that, “Peter Max” peyote blanket.
Lord help us.
now I just pray my pastor doesn’t see this,,,what am I thinking….never mind he would never find his way to this blog….
Ya know, while it’s still shocking, it’s not surprising anymore. Just isn’t.
This is a poignant fact. Whenever there is a greater call to holiness, the Opposition tries to keep pace and so makes the greater call for the antithesis of it, thus the greater the silliness.
Is that chasuble actually going to be worn at Mass or were they just showing how stupid it really is?
It’s so versatile! It doubles as a kite!
I think I had an album in the 70s with those 2 faces on it. If only I could remember…
What the well-dressed priest wears to say a Clown Mass! (Oh, wasn’t this a caption call?) ;-)
In 1969, when I was a tyke of 6, I went Trick or Treat in a Blue Meanie costume.
Now I feel cheated.
Send it to France. It fits in better with the juggling and the Mass du Soleil.
It’s sort of like a train wreck…You want to look away, you just can’t.
Gerald at the “Cafeteria is Closed” has photos of the abominable altar design that Bishop Wuerl is going to make the Vicar of Christ offer the Holy Sacrifice on.
Does anyone else get the impression from these photos that the USCCB is not asking the Pope to celebrate the Washington Mass in the extraordinary form?
I’ve not read the link, but just from appearances, it looks as if it is designed for some sort of homosexual/inclusive ritual. The rainbow hues and the rather androgynous faces gazing at each other affectionately lead me to think so.
And what fine cloth is that made from…..NYLON????
Oh I get it …it rolls up into a pouch, and fits in your pocket so you can
have one of those Camping Trip Masses
I’m convinced the designs of the two people on this thing that he’s wearing were based on the sisters of perpetual indulgence who went up in the Communion line to what’s his face at what’s that church’s name in San Francisco. Did anyone see that video? But, seriously, this thing must be designed for Mardi Gras in New Orleans or Rio or… (vomit).
No, it’s even worse. The artist was serious. Those two figures are the cherubim (wings outstretched) guarding the way to the cross, the tree of life. Too bad it has to done in way that purposely seems to go out of its way to be blasphemous. And too bad vestments are used for advanced story telling, which seems to point again to people thinking that they have to present their own cleverness to make up for they seem to think is a lack in the salvific power of the Holy Sacrifice, and what they seem to think is a lack in the symbols already present in the Rite itself.
Fr. Joseph and the technicolor nightmare coat!
VERSUS POPULUM! FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!
Archbishop Piero Marini was interviewed right after he was removed as the Vatican Master of Ceremonies in September 2007. Among other comments, he said that the people are the main actors in the mass, not Christ. I wonder if such informalities (to say the least) as the priest vestment shown and the encouragements of people to people peace offerings in novus ordo masses are the result of that.
I was a server in traditional mass when I was a kid, and I remember there were strict rules of when to play church music. At the time I never bothered to ask why, but now I surmise that it was made so that we do not confuse pleasing God with pleasing ourselves. We go to mass primarily to worship Dod, secondarily to receive grace. The people’s offering of peace (not the priest’s) has the side effect of introducing the mundane before the blessed sacrament. It makes us forget that in front of Christ in the blessed sacrament we should act above the mundane. If we are in front of the pope, we give him our full attention. See how often people vocally greet each right in front of the blessed sacrament, as if it were a protestant church! It might be more properly done in the hallways a stone’s throw away.
Tom Liang
This chasuble is going to haunt my dreams for weeks! Its starring at me…
Ugh…
Thomas: It would be helpful to have the quote of that by Marini.
My eyes, my eyes!
You know, at the “Little French Church” in St. Paul, MN, their sacristy is like a museum. Cabinet after cabinet of some of the most gorgeous vestment sets I’ve ever seen, including a black set with gold orphreys, etc., that they use on Good Friday. Just for comparison, they have retained from the “good ol’ days” a burlap chasuble with felt peace signs, rainbows, bread loaves, wheat sheaves, grapes, etc., and one that looks like it was made from a flannel bedsheet dyed pink with the words “Happy Birthday Jesus” scrawled on the front in brown felt-tip Sharpie marker.
Looks like someone wrapped himself in a banner
for the Gay Pride demonstrations.
Mass /ad orientem/? probably not. Consider the
possibility that this guy was so ashamed to be
recognized, that he wore the vestment backwards.
Does this come with matching maniple, burse, and veil?
Fr. Z: Regarding the P. Marini quote, I found this, from the New Liturgical Movement:
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The idea of “active participation” came up a number of times. It is clear that Archbishop Marini shares the common misunderstanding of what “participatio actuosa” means. For him, it must involve making a noise, and/or running around. Such a misunderstanding necessarily leads to all sorts of other errors, like the rejection of most of the Church’s patrimony of sacred music. But another, and even more serious error came to light near the end of his talk. He was explaining how the liturgy is not a spectacle. I found myself nodding in agreement, as he said, “We must ever remember that the principal actor [“agens”] in the liturgy is…” From what had gone before, I was expecting him to say, “Christ.” So when he said, “the People of God,” I almost fell off my chair. This is not what “Sacrosanctum Concilium” says:
“Proinde omnis liturgica celebratio, utpote opus Christi sacerdotis, eiusque Corporis, quod est Ecclesia, est actio sacra praecellenter, cuius efficacitatem eodem titulo eodemque gradu nulla alia actio Ecclesiae adaequat.”
It is the action of Christ, and the action of the Church inasmuch as she is His mystical body. To say that the principal actor is the People of God makes the liturgy into the work of the headless body, a cadaver.”
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Is this photo current?? How do we know how old this is?? Reminds me of thos chenille bathrobes with the peacocks on the back you could buy in the Ozarks.
jane in memphis
Actually, Father Z, that interview of Piero Marini was from an interview given by a link in one of your posts. The interviewer, I remember, was a lady, and the place was in some kind of an ecclesial gathering. But since you do not have a search facility, I am having trouble finding it. I did try.
Tom Liang
Yes, Jeff, that is the right article! Piero Marini was talking about “active participation.” Apparently, my memory of a lady being the interviewer is wrong. Either that, or the news service was a different one and that it was abridged.
Tom Liang
Why the fancy image on the rear? Would he EVER have his back to the people?
The pastor at the local institution for the retarded used to wear a chasuble with Snoopy and Woodstock on the FRONT.
Ave Maria , is this person part of the mother god thing that rolled around in the 70’s . my friends suggest the book of numbers .
QUAERITUR: Does he have it on backwards?
Some interpretations of the N.O. include dancing around, which means that there really is no front or back, or, better, everything is back to front and inside out and upside down.
Ah yes! The improved Roman rite is so vibrant and engaging! Watch out Protestants and people of the modern age! You just might find yourselves flocking to the Catholic Church. We are the definition of groovy.
My theory is that those are the official Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence vestments.
Maybe they were going on the veggie principle that the worse the taste the better the nutrition?
It’s like kids with veggies: if you ask them, healthy stuff must always taste bad. They need to grow up.
May the saints perserve us!!!
“Gr–.”
“–oss.”
“Gross.”
(for you Electric Company veterans out there)
Sorry ’bout the double-post; it didn’t seem to have posted the first time and to top it off I thought of a slightly clearer way to put it… 8^)
Is this for real?? Ick.
Is he actually trying to model it?! I….I…..I’m not sure what to say exactly.
Thats “threw up”
Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No! It’s Super Parrot!
It looks like ‘native American’ something…quite ecumenical.
“The Crescat” links to a German site that seems to be the origin of the picture. I don’t read German so I couldn’t really tell if the chasuble was from a Catholic Church. Could someone who reads German clarify this? thanks.
Tom Liang writes:
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Archbishop Piero Marini was interviewed right after he was removed as the Vatican Master of Ceremonies in September 2007. Among other comments, he said that the people are the main actors in the mass, not Christ. I wonder if such informalities (to say the least) as the priest vestment shown and the encouragements of people to people peace offerings in novus ordo masses are the result of that.
Then he continues:
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Actually, Father Z, that interview of Piero Marini was from an interview given by a link in one of your posts. The interviewer, I remember, was a lady, and the place was in some kind of an ecclesial gathering. But since you do not have a search facility, I am having trouble finding it. I did try.
Tom Liang
And ancore:
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Yes, Jeff, that is the right article! Piero Marini was talking about “active participation.” Apparently, my memory of a lady being the interviewer is wrong. Either that, or the news service was a different one and that it was abridged.
Tom Liang
My comments:
Obviously Tom Liang , you haven’t got a clue of what you are talking about, but you dare to write about it as if you were there. Shame on you ! Nobody seems to know what is it that Archbishop Marini said, nobody of you people. Shame on all of you who keep bringing the name of Archbishop Marini back here, just to try to trash him , and to makes vicious and ridiculous speculation about him …like the Quebec’s Eucharistic Congress fiasco what Matthew M. organized not long ago. All your comments always leave me bewildered and disgusted. You are heading for surprises…
Fr.Z. with all the respect due to you as a priest, I find that all these personal attacks to Mons. Marini are happening on your blog way to often, and I beg you to stop them.
Here is my comment on another forum after you Fr.Z annonced Arch. Marini’s departure as a papal MC.
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I was totally shocked as well, reading Fr. Z’s way of annoncing the departure of Archbishop Marini.
How disgusting, ungraceful, undignified, mean,vile, vicious and vulgar to say the least. And most of his friends’s comments show nothing, but people (” al borde del abismo ” ) totally crazy , out of their minds . Instead of being thinking and talking about that future, they so badly wanted, they are filling up that blog with hateful nonsense, offenses, and speculations about Archbishop Marini’s future, who as you mentioned is a priest who has served faithfully two Popes for 20 years.
Just curious, does anyone remember that beautiful prayer of Francesco di Assisi …
Here is just a bit of it:
Give Lord perfect charity,
profound humility , sense anf knowledge Lord so that I’ll be able follow your commandment.
” love my brothers as myself” ???
Let’s all follow the today’s anti-spam word. “Pray for our priests”
Adoremus Jesum
I wouldn’t even USE that as a shower curtain!!! That’s wrong on so many different levels…. :-O
The German translation is:
“My eyes, oh my eyes. Oh my God”
Fr Z:
In response to your quaeritur: Yes, he does have it on backwards. (His head, that is).
and from what I can surmise reading through the blog, it claims to be from a Catholic Church
He’s a real nowhere priest.
Its a Couatl Chasuble.
view this site
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/couatl.htm and click on the eye in the upper left to see an image.
What is needed is a liturgical version of the Trunk Monkey – call it the Sacristy Simian. Press a button; the Sacristy Simian removes the liturgically aberrant individual(s); and deposits them into the nearest dumpster.
Fr Z:
I don’t care if you dearest Aunt Zoe sewed that by hand, you are not wearing that at Mass!
(if this is inappropriate, please do erase)
It’s Fr. Joseph and the Amazing Homocolor Dreamcoat!
Father Z, putting an image like this up on your blog is a bit like chumming for sharks, don’t you think? And by the way, I think it looks a bit like a butterfly. You know the monarchs butterflies migrate to Mexico each winter. Or perhaps there will be a convocation of priests wearing butterfly vestments.
…Aelric, you’re right. That’s definitely the Couatl Chasuble. How considerate of the designer, to want to make one-ton flying snakes feel at home at Mass celebrated by a human!
…then again, Couatl are lawful good. I suspect they would find this a touch too chaotic for them. ;)
Victoria:
Me thinks it’s time to for a very LARGE glass of wine and some calming background chant . . .as in Gregorian. Pax
“Shame on you…. nobody of you people….Shame on all of you ….How disgusting, ungraceful, undignified, mean,vile, vicious and vulgar to say the least….totally crazy , out of their minds….hateful nonsense, offenses, and speculations ….” —Comment by Victoria
It’s amazing you can spit out all the vicious vernom and yet dare call to adore the Lord.
I realize this is extremely off-topic, but … heck, Father Z and everyone else needs some GOOD news after this wigged out vestment.
Namely, this item that just ran on the NLM:
Lewis and Short
posted by Shawn Tribe
Some of you may be interested to learn that the famous Lewis and Short Latin Dictionary (published by Oxford) is available online in a searchable format.
Looks like an explosion in a paint factory.
This appears to be one of the works of “art” presented in a meditative event/celebration in 2003 in the Catholic Diocese of Gurk, Austria, with the theme of women in the Bible. It is titled “Mann/Frau” = man/woman or husband/wife. Even more scary is the photo of the front side, while worn by the project director Gertrude Klampferer, which you can view here:
http://www.kath-kirche-kaernten.at/rpa/foto/2003_11_13_frauen_der_bibel/w_132-3297_IMG.jpg
This may be the front:
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And in this corner.. From Rio De Janeiro, Brazil – the Home of Carníval.. Weighing in at 180lbs.. Padre “Last Rites” Rodrigués!! LET’S GET READY TO RUMBLE!!!
Shockingly, the front is even uglier. If you don’t believe me (I barely do myself), there’s a picture of the entire thing spread out here.
It seems to be part of a series of religious articles produced by some German feminist writer or group.
Quick! Refresh your spirits with this lovely icon, which oddly, is from the same picture set as the others…
“Good morning everyone!”
“Good morning father!”
“We gather here today as a living community of faith to celebrate the memorial of Rainbow Brite, a truly relevant figure in our modern age…”
Perhaps this is an”ordination” gift for one of the ladies excommunicated by Archbishop Burke. It certainly fits in with the ambiance of that movement of madness.
Shakespeare’s Cobbler: You’re right; it may actually be a food theme. From the middle to the extremities, then:
Dolly Madison Zingers
Dreamsicles
Bananas
Pole beans
Gas grill flames
And grape Kool-Aid, no doubt containing some substance that gives meaning to the entire experience.
“It’s amazing you can spit out all the vicious vernom and yet dare call to adore the Lord.”
Comment by Theodorus —
Theodorus , the vicious vernon is not in my heart but in what I read in the comments here. If people don’t agree with someone , pray for that person and keep looking at the Cross.He is our only answer.
Yes, I adore our Eucharistic Lord and when I am there prostrated at His feet I pray for “all of us”, so that we may learn to LOVE.
Thank you “kdpfam”, I don’t like wine but I do listen to Gregorian chant often, it’s beautiful and I love it.
A liturgical question; Can I use my Rainbow sash as a stole to go with this?
Well, we now know that there’s at least one member of the Piero Marini fan club.
Well, we now know that there’s at least one member of the Piero Marini fan club!
Victoria,
Abp Marini is considered by many a good example of everything that is wrong with the liturgy today–this is confirmed by his own comments. Further, he was treated pretty well by the pope. There was talk of him being exiled to Switzerland or to an Italian diocese, but the pope let him stay in Rome. Abp Marini showed his gratitude by making public a letter than basically said that he was write and BXVI was wrong.
Anyone ever see the Mummers in parades? That chasuble reminds me of something they would wear.
Should be: “Abp Marini showed his gratitude by making public a letter than basically said that he was right, and BXVI was wrong.”
Where in the world do peeps come up with this stuff..
K said, “A liturgical question; Can I use my Rainbow sash as a stole to go with this?”
Although I’m no expert, my hunch would be yes, but only if you wear the stole on the outside. Looks better that way.
I think it was made by the same person who made this for an Orthodox priest:
http://flickr.com/photos/mariagwyn/217871071/in/set-72157594241004604/
What can one say?
Gordo
Clavem Abyssi writes, “Shockingly, the front is even uglier. If you don’t believe me (I barely do myself), there’s a picture of the entire thing spread out here.…”
The first two “paintings” on the left look somewhat Freudianly obscene to me.
–Guy
Those first two paintings are of Eve and Hannah (so they say).
One would suppose that the ad populum liturgy has its advantages in such a case as this “vestment” since it will be mostly unsighted.
“Welcome to Liturgy-stock. Our entrance hymn today shall be ‘This is the Dawning of the Age of Aquarius.'”
Eamon has it right – it’s shower curtain for Fr. Finocchio.
As for Donna Girl in Washington, he has hired some company to produce a Papapalooza. Donna is truly disgusting and quite viscious.
LeonG said, “One would suppose that the ad populum liturgy has its advantages in such a case as this “vestment” since it will be mostly unsighted.
Then you would have the “vestment” facing the tabernacle (if it’s in it’s proper place) and the cross (provided there is one as well). Then again, anyone place that possesses said “vestment” isn’t likely to have either.
You’ve got to be kidding me…These must be banned…Return to the old for the glory of the new…wonders if there is any rule against wearing 1962 Vestements and prior in the NO Mass?
Hey, Mister!! Throw me something!!
“You’ve got to be kidding me…These must be banned…Return to the old for the glory of the new…wonders if there is any rule against wearing 1962 Vestements and prior in the NO Mass?”
Nope. None at all, I believe. Just look at the Holy Father last Christmas, for example.
What does this chasuble “mean”?
Rainbow=Gay
It’s that simple.
I thought we were done with this?
Then why did you post to it and bring it forward?