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“The altarpiece is by Rubens. The music was Haydn’s Missa in Angustiis.” And the chasuble was a fiddleback.
In other words, there was nothing remotely British about this Mass…sigh…
Fascinating. I didn’t know that the OF rubrics allowed for a sub-deacon. Is that because the celebrant is a prelate?
In Christ,
Oooo-that’s sooo beautiful!
A perfect example of what the OF can be.
So sad it wasn’t the “Solemn High Mass”. Solemn: sacred, marked by ceremony or majesty.
Jayna, my thought exactly. This is what the OF could be…
Beautiful. It is hard to argue discontinuity when you see such inspiring events like these.
However, I think that most people who are into this type of stuff would just rather go to an EF Mass than an OF Mass that looks traditional.
The one advantage to a Latin OF that I can see is, from the priest’s POV, the rubrics are easier and more familiar (even when done ad orientem). In fact, I would encourage any priest toying with the idea of an EF Mass to “test the waters” with something like this Latin, ad orientem OF Mass. It requires little extra training (assuming you already can read Latin words out loud), no extra furnishings, and no major disorientation. You might try the “Mass of Vatican II” worship aid from Ignatius Press for the people to follow along in. Also, have a small choir to lead the chants and sing some communion meditaitonal hymns. If people like it, great! If they don’t, you haven’t spent tons of time and money in training an preparing for an EF Mass.
If only the OF were always like this.
I actually like hearing the Canon of the Mass; and that is something that I miss in the EF, given that in the EF the Canon is only said audibly in Ordination Masses. I know, I know, it is not about personal preferences, and we can’t pick and choose.
Still, if the OF were celebrated more like this, more like the EF, in continuity with the EF and in perfect accordance with the rubrics, and always following the liturgical tradition of the EF when the OF rubrics are silent, it would be great.
Jayna said it: that is a perfect example of what the OF can be. Thank God that we have freedom to have the EF celebrated now, so that it can positively enrich the OF too. That’s part of the Holy Father’s desire, according to his own letter issued with Summorum Pontificum, and it is a great and worthy enterprise.
It is hard to argue for dicontinuity when the OF is celebrated like this. Until one compares the texts (the Black) of the two forms. Then it’s, um, less hard. I wonder if the abuses so common to the OF are God’s way of making sure that we don’t settle for Bugnini’s impoverishments.
You know, the really important thing is that the abbot of DOWNSIDE is the celebrant!
Pray for vocations!
How does one have a Solemn Mass in the new rite?
“Mass with a Deacon” is the new Solemn Mass.