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If they haven’t said anything yet, they never will. Niederauer retires in a year or two, doesn’t he?
What do you suppose would happen if a bishop actually did his job, stopped beating around the bush, stopped merely recommending these politicians refrain from Communion, and actually formally excommunicated one of them.
Would it be an isolated event or would it be the first domino? Would his brother bishops be emboldened to do their duty?
It is really amazing that Planned non-Parenthood is happy about the Obamacare bill — I mean since it forbids federal funding on abortions and all (/sarcasm)
Pelosi’s bishop isn’t doing her a favor by not excommunicating her – for some people, if they don’t get a strong correction when they do something wrong, they keep on doing it. Considering Pelosi’s age wouldn’t it be a kindness to excommunicate her so she can make amends and return to her faith.
May God have great mercy on all their souls…remember to pray for our leaderes (regardless of lack of leadership and out and out evil actions).
“What do the bishops of these Catholic women have to say about this award?”
I heat the chirping of crickets.
The Lord Jesus told us in the Gospel this last Sunday in the EF: “Beware of false teachers…a good tree bears good fruit; a bad fruit bears bad fruit.”
All N. Pelosi’s talk about “Catholic identity” is such manure. This should be the “siren” to make her bishop do something. Let’s pray it does. There is always hope.
Just to set the record straight – Debbie Stabenow, one of our senators from Michigan, is Methodist. However, based on how the bishops of Michigan have treated our Catholic, pro-choice governor Jennifer Granholm (i.e., by not addressing the issue at all), if Mrs. Stabenow were Catholic, she would likely face no censure.
Pray, pray, pray and do pennance; remember Our Lady’s words “many souls go to hell because there is no-one to pray and do pennance for them”.
What Catholic women? They’re not Catholic women.
The church shouldn’t act so needy over this. When people want this bad to leave, let them. Force the point, and take their word for it when they announce their choice. Grasping and whining like they’re just poor little ol’ Catholics with a few bad manners when really they’re agents of death using the Church for cover is a bad, bad idea and just plain wrong. Let em go. It’s the only way they can ever decide to come back, if they ever do. YOu can’t come back to what you think you never left.
catholicmidwest
It would be great to let them go IF they would stop telling the world they are Catholic and, thus, giving great scandal. The only effective way to deal with the problem is for Bishops to, in a very public way, excommunicate them. At least “officially” they can no longer be thought of as Catholic.
Many (most) of our Bishops are going to have a lot to answer for some day.
the sad truth is that the USCCB has long been and still is
overwhelmingly embedded in the Democrat party apparatus.
The money wheel of the government is an addiction that easily
trumps the teachings of the magisterium.
The USCCB in general is sincerely beholden to the state where the cash is dispersed out to those who kneel properly to the decree of
the state machine. With this leadership, it’s not surprising that
many Catholics insist on identifying themselves as the
American church with a self-righteous disdain for orthodoxy.
Protestant by any other name.
Marcus,
Do you have facts which back up your comment as to the USCCB receiving or gaining in any monetary way from the Democratic Party? I think your statement is dangerous. I admit that some of the lay people working for the USCCB in Washington are very liberal, but to make a statement regarding finances or political gain for the Bishops seems a falsehood.
Planned Parenthood is one of the most evil organizations on the planet. Its founder was Margaret Sanger, a racist eugenicist Nazi sympathizer who started her organization to wipe out inferior races. Planned Parenthood continues to destroy innocent babies, to rip the unborn from their mothers’ wombs, to mount a Satanic attack on Motherhood and on the very idea of the Incarnation. Make no mistake, anyone who supports this organization is firmly on the side of Satan and his mignons. We need to get this truth out to anyone who will listen. We need to let people know that their souls are in danger if they associate with this Evil. We need to pray, do penance and fast to exorcise this demonic activity from our society. St. Michael the Archangel, pray for us!
If they’re anything like our bishop dinardo, don’t count on a response. He stood by for the last 2 years and said nothing as the western hemisphere’s largest abortuary was built only 2 miles from his office and across the street from a major university. I guess he was too busy in his new appointment: head of the usccb pro-life committee.
I personally think the best way to determine when a Catholic politician merits denial of Communion or excommunication is when they seek or accept endorsements and honors from Planned Parenthood, Personal PAC, NARAL or other aggressively pro-abortion organizations. You have to do more than just cast an occasional bad or questionable vote to get those kinds of endorsements — they have to be “earned”.
If a Catholic politician or public figure gets an endorsement from Planned Parenthood for their activities in support of legalized abortion, that is about as clear a case of scandal as it gets.
supertradmom, I can’t speak for Marcus, but IMHO he didn’t mean that the bishops were personally benefitting, but that they realized that they had to accept the standards of the State if they wish to get money for their programs. They’re afraid to criticize the state.
Some aren’t- when Cardinal O’Connor in NYC was threatened by the city with the withdrawal of money and delicensing of Catholic foster homes if they wouldn’t take or refer teenage girls for abortions, among other things, he simply said he would shut down the programs rather than let that happen. The city, which needed the many group homes provided by the Church, backed down. So it’s possible to oppose the state and live, but that takes courage.
But many bishops, particularly the leftist ones who are very statist anyway, are willing to do just about anything to keep that state money flowing. The Democratic Party has always been the funding channel for state moneys, and many of our USCCB bishops are probably heavy-duty Dems, hence the connection with the Democratic Party.
Why is it that the Catholics make the most horrific politicians? If you want a pro-life politician you have to vote Southern Baptist or Mormon!
pfreddys- so true. My husband and I took our pre marriage class at the Newman Center at Arizona State from then Mayor of Tempe, Harry Mitchell. He and his wife taught the class. Now he is a democrat Congressional representative. He voted for the pro abortion health care bill. There are a lot of Mormon representatives from Arizona who stand up for pro life causes and marriage btw a man and a woman. Sadly, the same can’t be said for the Catholics in elected office.
It’s been almost 40 years since Roe v. Wade, and we’re still having to ask at what point does a Catholic politician incur
excommunication? Shouldn’t we have a clearly articulated set of criteria by now?
I recall that during the passage of the health care bill the question came up regarding jurisdiction. Which bishop makes the
call regarding the possible excommunication of a politician? Should it be the ordinary of the politician’s home district, or the
bishop of the city hosting the capitol? I don’t pretend to have the competence to weigh in on that, I merely mention it to
observe that it would seem to be something that should have been settled quite a while ago.
I know that the USCCB is very, very busy, but the fact that in almost 40 years questions like these still lack definitive, convincing
resolution makes me suspect that such clarity isn’t actually a priority.
Pelosi excommunicated herself. Her bishop needs to enforce Church law.
I’m not interested in what the Bishops have to say I’m interested in what the Bishops are going to do, nothing as usual is my bet.
There are some who would blame the present mess with ‘Catholic’ politicians on the Declaration on Religious Freedom-Dignitatis Humanae. I myself would not blame it on the actual document but on the surreal “Spirit of Vatican II”.
Is this woman EVER going to be excommunicated?
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/3034/coolhandpadre.jpg
What we’ve got heah is …. failure to excommunicate.
OK, ghp, I am so stealing that image!!!!!!!
The bishops of course are derelict in their duties by remaining silent. As we know, silence implies consent.
ghp-I want to ‘steal’ it, too!
That is, IF I knew how to!
“Why is it that the Catholics make the most horrific politicians? If you want a pro-life politician you have to vote Southern Baptist or Mormon!”
I understand what you’re getting at, but let’s remember that the media loves to give face time to anti-life Catholics. House Minority Leader John Boehner is Catholic and has a 100% rating from NRLC.
It should be noted that the two most prominent Mormon Senators are not pro-life: Harry Reid and Orrin Hatch (who supports embryonic stem cell research).
Supertradmum,
Don’t have any readily available stats that the USCCB receives funding from democrats, but it is well-known that they have funded democrat causes. Specifically, I’m thinking of the well-documented funding of CCHD to ACORN, which is undisputedly advancing the democrat party line.
To cite but one source:
http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/illinoisreview/2008/09/cchd-campaign-t.html
And here is the USCCB calling for a collection for CCHD:
http://www.usccb.org/comm/archives/2008/08-180.shtml
Bottom line, Marcus’ claim isn’t as radical as your post implies.
I wonder if the Bishops still know about excommunication …
“Why is it that the Catholics make the most horrific politicians? If you want a pro-life politician you have to vote Southern Baptist or Mormon!”
AMEN!
YoungCatholic: “Why is it that the Catholics make the most horrific politicians?
Of course, these are phoney-baloney plastic-Catholic politicians you’re referring to. Running for the House of Commons in 1906, Hillaire Belloc was attacked for being a Catholic. He addressed the issue at a public meeting:
“Gentlemen, I am a Catholic. As far as possible, I go to Mass every day. This [taking a rosary out of his pocket] is a rosary. As far as possible, I kneel down and tell these beads every day. If any of you should reject me because of my religion, I shall thank God that He has spared me the indignity of being your representative.”
(There was a hush of astonishment, followed by a thunderclap of applause, and he was elected.) Now that is how a real Catholic politician sounds.
That’s not a guarantee — Bill Clinton is a Southern Baptist and Harry Reid is a Mormon.
@irishgirl. Right click on the image using either your mouse or the right button on your kepayd (laptop). Browser should ask you if you want to save the image to your hard drive.
Just saw a newstory about a “Right of Choice to Die” billboard in New Jersey. Wonder how long Pelosi and Reid will take to add euthanasia to the Health Care disaster bill (forgot, they already did and our first Communist President nominated a “Death (Rationing) czar last week).
Keep expecting to see Rod Serling during the news telling us not to adjust our TV sets.
Did she also get a pen like Sr. Keehan? She must be getting quite a collection of evil reminders.
Irishgirl, if you can’t find how to download the image, send me an email and I’ll send a jpg file on Monday. Email: ghp95134-at-yahoo-dot-com.
–Guy