An interesting Sunday Mass on 11 September – Mass in Time of War


Bp. Morlino blesses new shrine of St. Cecilia in the Wisconsin Dells.  Vestments lent by the Tridentine Mass Society of the Diocese of Madison.

Something a little unusual.  In the Diocese of Madison, His Excellency Most Reverend Robert C. Morlino (aka The Extraordinary Ordinary) has given permission to use, for the Novus Ordo, one of the “Masses for Various Needs and Occasions” on Sunday 11 September, such as the Mass for the Preservation of Peace and Justice (no. 30) or the Mass In Time of War or Civil Disturbance (no. 31).  Violet vestments would be used and the readings for the 24th Ordinary Sunday  can be used.  The General Instruction of the Roman Missal no. 374 allows the diocesan bishop to permit or direct the use of one of the “Masses for Various Needs and Occasions” on a Sunday in Ordinary Time.

For the Extraordinary Form, however, can this be done?  YES!

According to the 1962 rubrics, a votive Mass for a matters of public concern can be celebrated on a 2nd Class Sunday using violet vestments, without a Gloria but with a Creed (by reason of it being Sunday cf. 343).   Take a look at Rubrics 366-368 (De Missa votiva pr re gravi et publica simul causa) in the 1962 Missale Romanum.  The rule about Sundays is implicit in 341 where it says that Masses for Bride and Bridegroom and the 25th or the 50th Anniversaries of Marriage cannot be on a Sunday (meaning that the others can be).

So, at St. Mary’s in Pine Bluff (and I hope at other places in the diocese where the TLM is regularly celebrated), we will have the Mass in Time of War, with violet vestments, a Creed and no Gloria with commemorations of the 17th Sunday after Pentecost.

The schola will be prepared with the votive Propers:

  • IN. Reminiscere (Liber Brevior 184)
  • GR. Tu es Deus (LB 170)
  • AL. Eripe me (LB 324)
  • OF. Populum humilem (LB 322)
  • CO. Inclina (LB 320)
  • Common: Asperges. Mass XVII. Credo III. End: Salve Regina (simple).

Meanwhile, here is something for your listening pleasure as you surf about.

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  1. mburn16 says:

    I believe the GIRM allows the use of either white or violet tomorrow. Doubtless we’ll see more employ the use of white.

  2. bookworm says:

    Also of note: for those of us praying the 54-day Rosary Novena for America, if my math is correct, today is the day to shift from “petition” mode to “thanksgiving” mode if you started on Aug. 15 as suggested.

  3. KateD says:


    Regarding the 54 day mid point shift….wild that it’s on 9/11 and that Hillary is finally acknowledging that she is a very sick person. Keep on praying!!! Who knows what miracles God will manifest by the end of the prayers.

  4. Jonathan Marshall says:

    Just for interest – “Paukenmesse” means “Drum Mass”; in other words a Mass in the field in time of war, using a large drum as a makeshift altar.

    [Ehem… the Mass is scored with tympani (Pauken), especially prominent during the Agnus Dei, if memory serves. That’s why it is nicknamed the Paukenmesse. Hayden wrote “Mass in time of war” on the MS.]

  5. Jonathan Marshall says:

    OK Father, it’s a fair cop.
    The version I was told seems credible, but I bow to your superior knowledge!

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