Spotted on Twitter:
Soooo… Fr. Z is an RC integralist who prays like an evangelical fundamentalist.
Ivereigh used to be the editor of a magazine. He has clearly allowed his reading skills to get rusty.
Oh, right. He was editor of The Bitter Pill (aka The Tablet, aka RU-486). Never mind.
What Austen missed is the fact that we pray for … wait for it… CONVERSION or Downfall of the Fishwrap.
You can always find the prayer linked on the top menu. And it is HERE.
This is what I posted, and I still mean it.
May I ask you all to pray to St. Joseph, patron of the diocese where the offices of the Fishwrap (aka National Schismatic Reporter) are located? Pray that all the writers and staff of that heterodox and destructive publication either covert to orthodox Catholicism or else that they are driven to closure. Pray also that the bishops of these United States of America develop the courage to strip that publication of the word “Catholic” in their title.
St. Joseph, pray for us.
Dear St. Joseph, Terror of Demons and Protector of Holy Church, Chaste Guardian of Our Lord and His Mother, hear our urgent prayer and swiftly intercede with our Savior, whom as a loving father you defended so diligently, that He will pour abundant graces upon the staff of that organ of dissent the National catholic Reporter so that they will either embrace orthodox doctrine concerning faith and morals or that all their efforts will promptly fail and come to their just end. Amen.
So, Austen, I recommend that you sloooow doooown when trying to read. Even though tweets are pretty short, you are missing some important words.
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It appears you have a new epithet to add to your “what people say” category on side bar: RC integralist.
[Right!]
What does “integralist” mean? Is he saying faith should not be integral to one’s life? Not integrated to inform one’s views?
Austen is a fake Catholic, along with his fake Catholic rag. Sad!
St. Ignatius of Antioch called those who espoused their own opinions instead of church doctrine “demons” and called on (actual) Christians to shun them and not even speak or think about them. Sounds like a good plan.
This caused me to go look up what an Integralist is (from Wikipedia):
“Catholic Integralism (also called Integrism) is an “anti-pluralist” trend in Catholicism; the Catholic Integralism born in 19th century Spain, France, and Italy was a movement that sought to assert a Catholic underpinning to all social and political action, and to minimize or eliminate any competing ideological actors, such as secular humanism and liberalism.[4]
Catholic Integralism does not support the creation of an autonomous “Catholic” state church, or Erastianism (Gallicanism in French context). Rather it supports subordinating the state to the worldwide Catholicism under the leadership of the Pope. Thus it rejects separation of the Catholic Church from the state and favours Catholicism as the proclaimed religion of the state.”
This is supposed to be an epithet? Looks good to me.
I suffered through Ivereigh’s biography of Pope Francis. His picture is next to the word sycophant in the dictionary.
What does RC integralist mean?
Nothing other than one who habitually calculates the values of:
[Where the antiderifative F of f is known]
S b
S f(x)dx = F(b) – F(a)
S a
. . . while one is drinking Royal Crown cola (RC).
As opposed to a Diet Pepsi Integralist, a Mountain Dew Integralist, or a Snapple Integralist.
Seems to me that “lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil” is praying against something.. maybe @austeni also considers the author of that line an evangelical fundamentalist.
People like Ivereigh are warmed over Neo-Gnostics who are in love with the Spirit of the Age.
Quite frankly, I wouldn’t mind being able to pray like an evangelical fundamentalist in particular sets of circumstances. Some of these guys really kick a** .
Although almost everyone I know does, I don’t personally do social media (simply because of a fluke which occurred when I tried it out years ago). I guess ignorance really can be bliss in a given situation.
And another great thing about this blog is that we get to learn new words sometimes.
There is a fairly well referenced description of integralism over at encyclopedia.com
I suspect Mr. Ivereigh could’ve been keying on the following aspect :
. . . or, maybe as an ex-editor of a liberal publication, he is eyeing MS Winters job and is simply beginning to do a little bit of posturing ? The one-upmanship implied here is that Mr Ivereigh would have to at least equal, if not outdo the appellation of ” hate-filled, crank.”
Anyhow, this thing about associating “loyal Catholics with known Modernists/Liberals” . . .well if these guys aren’t the liberals/modernists themselves, could somebody please tell us who is ?
They all think they know how to pray, yet we barely ever hear a peep from them concerning the sacrament of Confession. A most telling litmus test.
Hmmmm… praying against something makes me an “RC Integralist”
I pray against bad weather. I pray against auto accidents. I pray against harm to my family and friends. I think most of us do. I think I’m in pretty good company.
Pretty sure there’s a Psalm or two that prays “against” enemies. I mean, if you still even read that RC Integralist/Evangelical book.
Ivereigh clearly doesn’t know any evangelical fundamentalists.
If Fr. Z were an evangelical fundamentalist, his prayer would start like this:
“Almighty Father, I just want to pray… with dear St. Joseph, terror of demons… that You will put a hedge of protection around us… and really just smite a clue by four onto the staff of the National Catholic Reporter. And I just want to pray that they will start to have a personal relationship with You, Lord, instead of with their own foolishness.
“And I just want to echo that they should learn to protect and love the Church like St. Joseph loved Our Lady, instead of trying to impress their college friends. And St. Joseph and me and everybody, we’re just crying out for more of Your love, Lord, to be poured down on the Vortex. Because they really need it, Lord.
“Can I hear an Amen?”
So now “innnnntregalist!” is the heterodox version of “raaaaacist!”? The name to call people to make them shut up and go away? The accusation thrown in an attempt to force people to engage in defense rather than cogent argumentation?
Uh huh. I don’t think that’s going to work very well.
LOL he learned a new word and now he’s parroting it like a mainstay of his vocabulary
CatholicMD, that’s my kind of math!
This guy twists truth like it’s his personal twizzle stick.
Another advantage to slowing down when he reads is that his lips won’t get as tired.
Better an Integralist than an Ivereighralist.
The first man to ever put his foot halfway into his mouth and park it there ? Maybe. Have a look :
Now, the first part of Fr. Z’s prayer:
Whoever heard of an evangelical fundamentalist praying to St. Joseph to ask his intercession!?
As for “praying against” . . .
“St . Michael the Archangel, defend us in the day of battle. Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him we humbly pray. . . ”
St. Mother Theresa of Calcutta constantly spoke against abortion. Every prayer to end abortion, every pro-life prayer,every prayer for an expectant mother to bring their child to term, every prayer for the healing of parents who have personally experienced/participated in abortion, is a prayer against abortion. As Catholics, we pray against evil in all its forms – but not against our fellow human beings. Asking God to “pour out his graces” on those in error can hardly be construed as “praying against” those people. We are actually praying for their well-being.
Someone who doesn’t get that, might end up getting it. . . if they prayed more, if at all.
From the Josias project by Pater Edmund Waldstein, O.Cist.
“Catholic Integralism is a tradition of thought that rejects the liberal separation of politics from concern with the end of human life, holding that political rule must order man to his final goal. Since, however, man has both a temporal and an eternal end, integralism holds that there are two powers that rule him: a temporal power and a spiritual power. And since man’s temporal end is subordinated to his eternal end the temporal power must be subordinated to the spiritual power.”
The term is more common in Europe, but I think is and should be more common in the Americas. The position, to me, is a no-brainer.
So, Mr Iverleigh thinks the National catholic Reporters don’t need conversion? What makes them unique amongst men?
RC Integralist, hmmm ? Excellent, another name for my personal philosophy. Along with “rigidly orthodox traditionalist”.