Your Sunday Sermon Notes: 17th Sunday after Pentecost (25th Ordinary – N.O.)

Was there a GOOD point made in the sermon you heard at the Mass for your Sunday (obligation or none), either live or on the internet? Let us know what it was.

Too many people today are without good, strong preaching, to the detriment of all. Share the good stuff.

What was attendance like?

Tell about attendance especially for the Traditional Latin Mass.  I was getting reports that it was way up.  But now COVID… again….  Tell me it doesn’t have a demonic component.

Was the Motu Proprio mentioned?  Any local changes or news?

For those of you who regularly viewed my live-streamed daily Masses – with their fervorini – for over a year, you might drop me a line.

I have some remarks about the TLM – HERE

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  1. iPadre says:

    25th Sun OT – I talked about our Lord’s love for children and our responsabilities to them – Behavior, Language, Instruction and Worship (they are an integral part of our community). Our need to pray for and support parents and families during these difficult times.

    17th Sun. After Pentecost – I talked about fighting the battle agains diabolical contamination.” Fight against the devil, the flesh and the world. Spiritual war, demands a strong spiritual life – regally confession & frequent communion essential. War of the Flesh – penance and fasting using the unavoidable sufferings of life. And the uses of sacramentals. All to assist in conquering the enemy and building virtue.

  2. At my diocesan vetus ordo Mass, Father preached about how our new governor invited all women denied abortions in Texas to come to NY, using the phrase “We’d love to have you.” He explained how that was an abuse of love. You cannot love someone by helping them murder their child. Father often incorporates the pro-life message into his homilies.

  3. Gregg the Obscure says:

    Attendance at 1030 was really low (like 20% of the past three months’ average and i could see it well due to helping at the collection), possibly due to the local football team having a game on the east coast meaning a ridiculous 11 am start.

    choir was back and in fine form. so nice to have the Sanctus a capella in harmony.

    a solid homily weaving the OF readings into the tale of Faust – the things of this world will not provide us with true joy and the bills for them will come due with interest. also he emphasized that in the ancient world children had no legal rights such that to give something to a child is giving without expecting anything in return.

  4. teomatteo says:

    TLM. Metro Detroit. Attendance maybe slightly up last two -three weeks.(i don’t count, maybe i should?). Homily on loving God first before neighbor/self. Too many in church and out that put love of neighbor before God. Can’t get things right that way. Ex. A covered up crucifix at an ecumenical gathering at a catholic church to not offend. Bad that.

  5. Rich Leonardi says:

    Mass at the stupendously gorgeous cathedral Basilica of St. Louis. It was our first visit there, and I felt like I’d stepped into Rome or ancient Constantinople. The homily by a youngish priest was a hopeful reflection on purposefully conquering habitual sin that worked in C.S. Lewis’s “Screwtape Letters.”

  6. measterling says:

    We attended our local SSPX parish for the first time, and much to our surprise the celebrant was Bishop Fellay. He had an inspired homily, prominent themes were the different types of prayer, the current distortion in ecumenism, and the need for understanding that popes are not perfect and can make mistakes. My son said it best by commenting that it had been years since a homily had so thoroughly nourished his soul.
    The location was a small chapel but the place was packed. Honestly I was moved to tears, the Mass and homily were both perfection.

  7. kurtmasur says:

    Attendance at my diocesan TLM was slightly lower than usual, but then again, now that the summer is over, our second sung Sunday TLM has returned. Our TLM had grown so much that an additional (sung) TLM was added to the Sunday schedule, such that we now have two (sung) TLMs on Sundays (with the exception of the summer months July-August, in which we only have one).

    TC was not mentioned, in fact, I have never really seen it been addressed. Readings continue to be proclaimed exclusively in Latin only. No translation recited not even as part of the homily, and I hope it stays this way. I know for a fact that one of our auxiliary bishops is a modernist and not sympathetic at all towards the TLM. For fear of persecution, I’d rather not mention name of place.

  8. Jim Dorchak says:

    We are not vaxed. The bISHOPS demand it.
    Only on line Mass the same as the past 2 years give or take.
    Jim in Chile.

  9. zag4christ says:

    I attended Mass at St. Rose of Lima in Dillon, Mt. this morning. We were on our way home (Spokane, WA) from our “real” home, Sublette County, Wyoming. I have attended Mass at St. Rose of Lima in the past. In fact, the last time I did is when Fr. Jason Souza, the current pastor, celebrated his first Mass as the new pastor of the parish. I do not know how he got there, but he is from southern California and he and his horse and his hunting dog ended up in southwest Montana. The first Mass appeared to be his introduction to a rural (with a capital “R”) parish. I can remember it clearly because I had never attended a Mass where the priest kind of had to explain himself to the congregation. He was eloquent, he celebrated the Mass with amazing reverence. Fast forward to today. The music has gone from the front of the church next to the sanctuary to the choir at the rear of the church. The outside of the church, which had been neglected is being restored and is beautiful. The congregation, rather than being predominantly seniors, now has many young families with many young children. This priest serves at least 3 communities over several hundred square miles. He is also responsible for a small college in the community. He is a missionary priest. I have deep respect for all missionary priests. I was fortunate to be baptized by one and having that same priest witness my marriage 27 years later. That particular priest, Fr. Charles Bartek, son of a Pennsylvania coal miner, is now buried in the Pinedale Cemetery overlooking the upper Green River basin in western Wyoming. He being there makes it holy ground.

    Fr. Souza’s homily today focused on how the disciples were not listening to Jesus. They were more concerned about their individual status, rather than listening to what Jesus was telling them. Fr. Souza explained on how important it is for us to become like children, who receive with full understanding and acceptance without any prejudice, what God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit is/are continuously pouring out to us, the sinners.

    I encourage you to visit St. Rose of Lima’s website. The altar in that church is one of the most beautiful altars I have ever seen.

    Peace and God bless,

  10. zag4christ says:

    Fr. Souza began his homily saying that he had timed last Sunday’s homily and it was 13 minutes long. He apologized (with a wide grin) and promised to deduct the extra minutes from his homily today. I didn’t time it, but I don’t think he did.

    Peace and God bless,

  11. bartlep says:

    Novus Ordo but pastor is trying. He placed the tabernacle behind the altar and celebrated ad orientem for s couple Sundays but someone tattled and the pastor had to “get in line” — tabernacle back away from the altar and priest back to facing the people…

    Homily was a letter from the bishop on the Real Presence that had to be read.

    Incense, Kyrie, Gloria and Sanctus started at this Mass only. Choir is loud and pretty awful. Loud music during Communion distracting for any contemplation.

  12. Chad the Great says:

    Zag4Christ- that altar is beautiful. I noticed there was a Latin Novus Ordo there.
    That’s really interesting. I’ve never seen any Church that beautiful, outside of traditional oratories and chapels.

    Montana is already beautiful, just due to nature alone. It is a perfect setting for a beautiful altar like that.

  13. JonPatrick says:

    On a trip to the Southwest. Last week we were at St. Mary’s Providence RI. This Sunday found us in Flagstaff AZ with some trepidation as one never knows what to expect at a Novus Ordo parish. We found the large new San Francisco de Asis church nestled appropriately in the foothills of the San Francisco mountains above the city. Walking in we observed several ladies wearing veils, a good sign. Also kneelers at the front for those wishing to receive kneeling on the tongue. The mass was celebrated by a young priest with much chanting of the propers and the use of the Roman canon. In the homily Father talked of how we must love as a child loves, allowing ourselves to be vulnerable as Christ was (pointing at the large San Damiano cross above the altar). With the beautiful singing of the veiled Cantor and the reverence of the mass it was a moving experience for both of us.

  14. summorumpontificum777 says:

    Diocesan TLM was well-attended, as usual. No noticeable dip despite the local NFL franchise playing a game at the same hour. A decade or so so ago, when I attended Novus Ordo, a simultaneous pro football game would inevitably make a big dent in Mass attendance.

    Priest saying the Mass is definitely in the “Benediction Option” camp, very pessimistic about the de-Christianization of the nation and the social collapse happening around us. I can only imagine how extraordinarily frustrating it must be for priests like him who have a clear-eyed view of the sorry state of Christendom to be living during a pontificate that totally rejects that view… asserting that the Church’s only problems are rigid clerics and laity clinging to outmoded doctrine and practices and blocking the Church from getting with the times and conforming itself to the zeitgeist. It must be like working for a company that’s in a death spiral and hearing the CEO call for a doubling-down or tripling-down on the very same business plan that has been failing for decades.

  15. mrs wu says:

    Before TC, we had TLM once each month, at 0900 on the fourth Saturday of the month. Now, we have TLM each week, 1730 on Fridays. Our priest celebrates the Mass with wonderful reverence, whichever rite is used. In NO Mass, sometimes responses are in English, sometimes in Latin.
    Yes I watched many of your live-streamed daily Masses, though could not quite call myself one who viewed regularly. Your fervorini were always a blessing, as are your columns here. Amen!

  16. Sue in soCal says:

    I was in Houston for the Texas Right to Life gala dinner. (Fr. Altman was also there!) The next morning they had a Mass with brunch following. The priest wore a fiddle back vestment, faced the altar, and sprinkled the Mass liberally with Latin. He also gave the best pro-life sermon I think I have ever heard, tying it to this part of the readings; “Taking a child, he placed it in their midst,
    and putting his arms around it, he said to them,
    “Whoever receives one child such as this in my name, receives me;
    and whoever receives me,
    receives not me but the One who sent me.”” Marvelous!

  17. Christ_opher1 says:

    NO mass was celebrated by a visiting priest who did not explain why he was there.

    Homily, children running around during the mass is great for him, even though the parents clearly need help.

    Went to communion to receive in the mouth kneeling and was refused, even though the Cure of the parish has approved this. Told him good luck with his soul.

    End of mass told the visiting priest that he has no authority to refuse communion in the mouth as per the Cardinal Sarah’s letter and that communion is not a

    His response is to exhale.

    Modern France!

  18. Kathleen10 says:

    Our excellent priest talked about how we should be careful about what we are texting and saying about, and to, others. To paraphrase, that we must not give in to anger. This is a faithful, reverent priest, and we appreciate him and his point of view, but, I must say these days zeal for God’s house may cause many of us to say and do what we might not have said and done 10 years ago, when we lived in a far-off land we can only recollect but not actually see anymore. These are exactly the days for saying what we couldn’t imagine saying 10 years ago. We are seeing the unthinkable. Churches are closed, by bishops, St. Peter’s is closed, by the pope, to faithful Catholics who wish to worship Jesus Christ and receive the sacraments. What are words, compared to this violence against Catholics.

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