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The fact that @CardinalBCupich & the Archdiocese of Chicago have severely restricted the traditional Latin Mass because it is a threat to "Church unity," yet allows this "Mass" to take place every week at St. Sabina's, tells you all you need to know about their true motivations. pic.twitter.com/fpPfB1Gk0C
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And then there is this from Chicago…
https://www.pillarcatholic.com/p/eucharistic-pilgrimage-expected-to
This reminds me of the 70’s song, You are a child of the Universe.
The good news is that it looks like no one’s there.
You need to stretch the Church’s protection against Donatism to a micro-millimeter to believe that ad-libbed vanity play resulted in transubstantiation.
This clip is out of context. It wasn’t a typical Sunday, it is from the most recent Holy Thursday. The full video, which offers better context is openly available on St. Sabina’s YouTube page. The dynamism of Black Catholic worship, if you are not familiar with it, will require one to look elsewhere for a full explanation. [No. We really don’t.]
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The twelve parish members seated around the table, earlier in the service, were commissioned to serve the parish, receiving prayer stoles (very common in Black Catholic parishes) to signify the trust and expectations the parish community placed on their shoulders. [So what?]
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These same twelve had their feet washed by their pastor, the enigmatic and incredibly effective Mike Pfleger. [Not the adjectives I would have chosen.]
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Fr. Pfleger does tend to insert preaching and commentary quite freely, I will agree. (In my past, I have ministered in the Archdiocese of Chicago.) The gestures, singing, lighting and all are typical of well done Catholic worship within the black community. The “Zaire Use,” approved by the Vatican in 1988 for universal use, influences Black Catholic worship in the US, and explains many of the differences in gestures by the congregation. The expansion of musical choices and genres is something Fr. Pfleger is particularly know for, nationally.
[You’ve missed the entire point.]
In my past, I have ministered in the Archdiocese of Chicago.
“In my past, I have helped empty churches in the Archdiocese of Chicago.”
There. ‘Fixed it for you.
The “Zaire Use,” approved by the Vatican in 1988 for universal use,
It wasn’t approved for universal use. It was approved for use in one South African diocese.
It’s amazing that Cupich has allowed St. John Cantius to continue saying the TLM to this day. My wife and I have attended there and will leave shortly to go to the 5pm mass.
Dear John, there is no ‘Black Catholic worship’ there is only the Catholic Mass, which would include the Holy Thursday Mass. The Liturgy isn’t an amorphous type of worship that you can shift and shape to suit to whatever the locals, or the pastor, prefer.
Fr. Z is correct, you’ve completely missed the point.
I had the extreme displeasure of going to a “Mass” at Saint Sabina many years ago. It was all about Pfleger and nothing else. One would have thought he was one of the Apostles or at least one of the Disciples given the way people treated him. Though called a Catholic Mass it was really a black Baptist service with dubious Catholic veneers led by a white priest who was into cultural appropriation. It was utterly shameful.
Is this the Neocathecumenal liturgy? From what I have heard, it looks like it is. So, how can it be the Zaire use?
Ah – those Halcyon Days of the 1970’s.
Let’s breakout the felt and scissors.
This is one reason when I travel I try to take the time to research parishes if I am going to be out of town for a weekend. I realize that sometimes it’s a coin toss and your Sunday obligation needs fulfilled. Since this Mass was Holy Thursday I might have just walked out. I have been tempted a time or two to leave a certain Mass if I know I can make a more reverent Mass later but sometimes it’s take what you can get.
If I am familiar with a particular city I normally know of a parish I approve even if it means a 45 minute drive. A large city like Chicago, Washington DC, or New York many parishes are accessible with a ride on the train. I do find this is easier to do with like minded travel partners than just going to the closest parish to the hotel (although I have gotten lucky doing that sometimes).
Travelers – it may take a little extra effort but I recommend doing a little research if you are traveling.
It was so disturbing that I could barely watch it and I skipped ahead a couple of times and then quit watching it. I found it extremely creepy when he hugged each of the people. I think of the incredibly beautiful kiss of peace in the old rite solemn mass, and contrast it with this, and I can’t even imagine that anyone would prefer this.
The black robe says it all. Jesus won’t be mocked, so we should probably start praying for Fr. Pfleger.
Which theatre was this show performed at?
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“The dynamism of Black Catholic worship,…”
T’would seem he aimed to recreate the Last Supper in a fashion that..appeals to a Black audience. I’m reminded of watching Jesus Christ, Superstar; Holy Week is presented such as to appeal to 70s hippies, yet not actually teach what Christ taught. So I see this. Maundy Thursday should be about Christ having instituted the Eucharist and more formally established the priesthood.
I’m rarely impressed with “dymanism” from anyone; Black, Hispanic, women, whomever, the Mass rapidly becomes ceases to be about Christ’s sacrifice for all men, rather all about that ethnic group or sex.
Orual, there is a Black American Catholic rite, just like there is a Spanish/Latino rite. They’re unofficial and St. Sabina’s is the extreme but if you go to a Black parish it won’t be the same as your parish and the bishop is fine with it.
I’m not familiar with Zaire use, but there are videos of it that can be found online.
There do seem to be quite a few distinctions compared to ordinary form, but primarily on the part of the laity.
I don’t speak Congolese, so I can’t tell if the prayers are changed, much less to the degree they routinely are changed at St. Sabina, but it is seems pretty clear that what St. Sabine routinely streams is NOT according to the Zaire use.