Sunday 1 July in Detroit. The “Great Diminishment” has begun: A tongue in check suggestion.

This is pretty sad.

Even with the election of a new Pope, whose views are not yet perfectly manifest, the Archbishop of Detroit leapt to shut down Traditional Latin Masses far and wide, leaving only a few, thus hurting and inconveniencing a lot of the most active, generous, faithful Catholic families and individuals under his pastoral charge. This cynical move goes into effect on 1 July.

The “Great Diminishment” has begun.

Was it really for the good of the life of the Church in Detroit?

One of the things that the Archbishop stressed while he was snuffing out Masses, is that people going from one zipcode to another to attend Holy Mass (which they have the right to do) are to continue to give their hard-earned money to their territorial parishes where they are not receiving services.

One of my priest friends sent this.

  • Since the Archbishop reminded people of their need to contribute financially to their [territorial] parish, and not just the church they attend for the Latin Mass, and
  • since people in the archdiocese regularly “register” at a parish that is not their proper territorial (or personal) parish, and
  • since those people who do register at a parish other than their proper parish are not disciplined or scolded in any way
  • I propose that those who attend the Latin Mass in Detroit “register” at Santissima Trinita dei Pellegrini parish in Rome and send their regular contributions there.

That clever and pretty funny.   The Parish™ donation page (in Italian) is HERE.   Don’t worry, it’s not hard to figure out and you can right-click and get a translation quickly.

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11 Comments

  1. TheCavalierHatherly says:

    Nothing sounds so Apostolic as “you are obligated to financially support your territorial parish.”

    Inspiring. Heroic even. It’s so deeply moving.

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  3. Danteewoo says:

    I contribute to the parish closest to me. But that parish is Ukrainian Catholic, and I am registered there. And I am Latin Rite. I suspect that for a Latin Rite guy to register at an Eastern Catholic parish is in violation of Canon Law. I hope it is!

  4. Neil Addison says:

    I seem to remember some years ago you saying that the only real power the laity have is the power of the wallet. I took that to heart and give my regular monthly donation to the ICKSP. Obviously I make a donation to any parish I may attend for Mass but my main money goes to a traditionalist order not to Diocese.

  5. ThePapalCount says:

    It’s all about the money. Not the care of souls. Lunacy.

  6. Lurker 59 says:

    If one lives in any area with easily accessible parishes, especially urban areas, people are not going to their territorial parish but rather the parish that they like – which may very well be the parish across the street. The Archbishop needs to look into that.

    I’d strongly recommend that the good Archbishop should go through his cathedral’s rolls and remove everyone whose domicile is not located within the cathedral’s boundaries and insist that they give their monies to their proper parishes. Additional, it would help to make an announcement before the offering basket is passed around that the basket is only intended for use by territorial members of the parish. Being that it is a cathedral, there will be lots of visitors and we don’t want non-members to be confused and accidentally put monies in the basket.

  7. jhogan says:

    It seems to me that, if a diocese or parish were truly meeting the spiritual needs of the people, there would be no need to remind them to help with the material needs of that diocese or parish.

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  9. ProfessorCover says:

    It is really funny regarding financial support. I thought we had an obligation to make sure our donations are directed to just causes. Such as a diocese that is in financial trouble because it has a Bishop who does not care about the salvation of the parishioners in his diocese?
    When I was an Episcopalian I kept trying to get people to focus on salvation rather than whatever else it was they were concerned about. I found a Latin Mass community and it was all about salvation. Now it seems that since my community reconciled to the diocese but has been betrayed by the Vatican (but fortunately not by the diocese we are in) it is all about something else. What ever that is?

  10. hwriggles4 says:

    Years ago I lived 5 minutes away from a parish that was very liberal (it has since been cleaned up) and most of our young adult group attended Mass elsewhere. I always had a feeling that my roommate and I were going to get a call from a parishioner there and asked why both of us were never seen at Mass there. We were registered elsewhere and young adults are encouraged to register somewhere because many (at least then) were under counted by the diocese. Had I been asked I would of tactfully told a particular parishioner why I attended Mass elsewhere.

    Years ago, the parish I regularly attend took the time to do a survey and outreach within parish boundaries, so some parishes could reach out to Catholics within parish boundaries. The survey also found that 60 percent of registered parishioners lived outside of parish boundaries, so that should tell the parish something.

    Through experience, I think most pastors, pastoral administrators, parochial vicars, and a priest in charge (that’s a title I have seen for a priest who was ordained under the pastoral provision) don’t care where you live as long as you are regularly fulfilling your Sunday obligation.

  11. ajf1984 says:

    CCC 2043: The faithful also have the duty of providing for the material needs of the Church, each according to his own abilities. (footnote referencing CIC 222)

    Can. 222 §1. The Christian faithful are obliged to assist with the needs of the Church so that the Church has what is necessary for divine worship, for the works of the apostolate and of charity, and for the decent support of ministers.
    §2. They are also obliged to promote social justice and, mindful of the precept of the Lord, to assist the poor from their own resources.

    I must be missing the part where it says the local Ordinary decides that “the Church” is synonymous with “territorial parish.”

    On another, related note: maybe I just live in a strange place, but short of visiting the Chancery and asking to see the parish boundary map, it is difficult to locate one’s precise territorial parish. Sure, I could assume that my territorial parish is the one that is located closest to me, but other boundaries don’t always work like that so why should I assume my parish boundaries do as well? If there is such an obligation as the Ordinary of Detroit is implying, then shouldn’t every household in each parish know precisely which territorial parish they belong to?

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